The point is the turnovers happened. Just because the turnovers happened and we took advantage of them doesn't necessarily mean we had to win the game that way. If you get 5 turnovers and don't get any points off of them, it doesn't help you much either. We had to take advantage of the opportunities we got and we did. Turning that into some kind of negative as if we had to do it that way is just ridiculous and asinine in the extreme. Earlier in the season the mantra was "where are the turnovers?". Now that were getting the turnovers, people are saying "why do we have to rely on turnovers to help us win?". You want them, now we are getting them, and people still are complaining. Turnovers are part of the game, just like playing good offense and defense are. We played well in most phases of the game, offense, special teams, forcing turnovers, not stopping ourselves with stupid penalties. The only thing we didn't do well in is stopping them on defense in general. You can't expect to do well in all phases of the game every week. And why is relying on turnovers to help you win somehow make a win less important in some people's eyes anyway? I'll take a win however it comes, that's the bottom line.