Coach Sanders $10,000,000 per Year

[headcard]

I'm good. I'm confused why there are half a dozen guys in here defending Colorado and Sanders, but I'm good. I already made my point, and that is that the dude has 3 wins over FBS teams with winning records in 2 years, and he just lost 90% of his offensive production.

He might have earned some money for his celebrity value, but that program is a top 25 schedule away from the house of cards blowing completely over.

It is the only reason a couple of these posters are here, no idea why Kak has jumped on the bandwagon with them. One of these guys created his account to post about the guy and nothing else. Another one has accused anyone and everyone criticizing the CU Coach of being a racist. That group accusing other posters taking Coach Sanders talk “personal” is hilarious.

 

[BeaverSlayerReincarnated69]

It is the only reason a couple of these posters are here, no idea why Kak has jumped on the bandwagon with them. One of these guys created his account to post about the guy and nothing else. Another one has accused anyone and everyone criticizing the CU. Oahu of being a racist. That group accusing other posters taking Coach Sanders talk “personal” is hilarious.

Right? Were on a sports forum talking about rival teams and coaches....Yeah it's personal. That's why we pay to play here.

 

[kakdawg]

So we are going to talk about him resurrecting a national power and earning a massive raise, but then set the perverbial comparison bar at "look at what they didn't the year before"....a year where they were playing a full schedule in a different conference. That makes no sense.

They play what the schedule is. YOU argued the national power not me. I never said that. Again don't move the goal posts...


Holla

 

[BeaverSlayerReincarnated69]

They play what the schedule is. YOU argued the national power not me. I never said that. Again don't move the goal posts...


Holla

It's literally quoted in the original post....I didn't say you argued it, but me commenting on isn't just a random internal illusion. It's literally the opening statement of this thread

 

[kakdawg]

It is the only reason a couple of these posters are here, no idea why Kak has jumped on the bandwagon with them. One of these guys created his account to post about the guy and nothing else. Another one has accused anyone and everyone criticizing the CU Coach of being a racist. That group accusing other posters taking Coach Sanders talk “personal” is hilarious.

Go back and see where I started and what I said. Bandwagon??


Holla

 

[SantaBarbaraSker]

They play what the schedule is. YOU argued the national power not me. I never said that. Again don't move the goal posts...


Holla

Sure “they play what the schedule is” but that doesn’t mean that the schedule is comparable to P4 Conference schedules, thus the wins don’t carry as much weight IMO.



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[kakdawg]

Sure “they play what the schedule is” but that doesn’t mean that the schedule is comparable to P4 Conference schedules, thus the wins don’t carry as much weight IMO.



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I hear ya. But again it's all relative. What else can you compare it to other than what they did previously. When they were going 1-10 or whatever schedule wasn't being brought up. But now it's a stickler because they are actually winning some of those games that they would've lost.

I'm a Nebraska fan so honestly I couldn't care less about CU. I guess I just see things a bit different than most . Be it Nebraska or Iowa or Colorado. Those wins don't carry the same weight in your mind ...UNLESS they lose them and THEN it matters. That's why I don't discount any win. The McNeese st win by Nebraska a few years back with Ameer didn't mean much in the grand scheme. It was just a win over a lower level team..UNLESS they had lost it. Then we look at it totally different. So for me I don't dig that far. A win is a win is a win. I'm especially giving credit for those wins when the guys before you wasn't getting them.

This could go on and on. I'm not changing you guys minds and you aren't changing mine. Let it keep playing out and see what happens. My main point was so far CU is doing better than most Husker fans thought they would be. Good enough to get the man a raise. It's ok to not like it. Also ok to question it. But the record is what it is and they have improved. Nothing more or less. They aren't world beaters. We kicked their ass and we barely made a bowl. But again relatively speaking they are doing better. That's it...I'll leave my comments there.





Holla

 

[SantaBarbaraSker]

I hear ya. But again it's all relative. What else can you compare it to other than what they did previously. When they were going 1-10 or whatever schedule wasn't being brought up. But now it's a stickler because they are actually winning some of those games that they would've lost.

I'm a Nebraska fan so honestly I couldn't care less about CU. I guess I just see things a bit different than most . Be it Nebraska or Iowa or Colorado. Those wins don't carry the same weight in your mind ...UNLESS they lose them and THEN it matters. That's why I don't discount any win. The McNeese st win by Nebraska a few years back with Ameer didn't mean much in the grand scheme. It was just a win over a lower level team..UNLESS they had lost it. Then we look at it totally different. So for me I don't dig that far. A win is a win is a win. I'm especially giving credit for those wins when the guys before you wasn't getting them.

This could go on and on. I'm not changing you guys minds and you aren't changing mine. Let it keep playing out and see what happens. My main point was so far CU is doing better than most Husker fans thought they would be. Good enough to get the man a raise. It's ok to not like it. Also ok to question it. But the record is what it is and they have improved. Nothing more or less. They aren't world beaters. We kicked their ass and we barely made a bowl. But again relatively speaking they are doing better. That's it...I'll leave my comments there.





Holla

TLDR




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[Landomatic]

It's literally quoted in the original post....I didn't say you argued it, but me commenting on isn't just a random internal illusion. It's literally the opening statement of this thread

If your only argument is that they are not a "national power" then I agree with you and acknowledged as much earlier in the thread. I'm fairly certain most, if not all of us would agree with that. However, I think things went sideways when you said a bunch of other nonsensical stuff (I guess in in effort to try to make that point?) throughout the thread that is pretty hard to agree with.

My only argument has been that Deion has clearly produced a proven financial ROI for the program and the community. And he's clearly improved them substantially on the field from where they were when he got there. Those two things combined have rightfully earned him that salary.

And BTW, don't ever accuse me of supporting CU. I can't f*cking stand that worthless piece of sh*t c*ocksucking f*cktard program. Pretty sure we can all at least agree on that. I just happen to like Deion. Shedeur I can take or leave. And I agree, that other son of his seems like kind of sleazebag.

 

[Bigredbjj]

People are laughing at this but i would say the amount of revenue he has brought to the school probably warrants the money he is getting.

Are they a national power? No but are they getting better? For sure.

He will also be able to bring in more talented players especially with two first round draft picks in the spotlight.

Probably not a bad move for Colorado

 

[BeaverSlayerReincarnated69]

If your only argument is that they are not a "national power" then I agree with you and acknowledged as much earlier in the thread. I'm fairly certain most, if not all of us would agree with that. However, I think things went sideways when you said a bunch of other nonsensical stuff (I guess in in effort to try to make that point?) throughout the thread that is pretty hard to agree with.

My only argument has been that Deion has clearly produced a proven financial ROI for the program and the community. And he's clearly improved them substantially on the field from where they were when he got there. Those two things combined have rightfully earned him that salary.

And BTW, don't ever accuse me of supporting CU. I can't f*cking stand that worthless piece of sh*t c*ocksucking f*cktard program. Pretty sure we can all at least agree on that. I just happen to like Deion. Shedeur I can take or leave. And I agree, that other son of his seems like kind of sleazebag.

Could you please tell me what I argued that was nonsensical?

 

[Landomatic]

Could you please tell me what I argued that was nonsensical?

Sure, here you go. I'm not going to get in a rebuttal with you about each one, but it sure seems like a whole lot of rhetoric just to try to prove they're not a national power, which I agree with BTW...as I stated.

once his roster isn't full of kids with his last name, his rediculous roster management will sink the ship

it was the biggest sham team and heisman winner in modern NCAA history

Name any college coach that was fired after 2 years for performance....I'll wait

relative to the absurd hype he's brought them by being "a successful black coach who's beating back racism and changing the sport" then yes he has earned his salary from monetary value alone

Why have a Husker message board subscription to white knight for Colorados scum ass coach and program

deion and his felon son are pieces of shit The "good" son shoved a ref this year I guess if you feel like associating with that makes you scum too, I wouldn't argue Or else we could just look at you defending Rado on its own and come to the same conclusion

I'm confused why there are half a dozen guys in here defending Colorado and Sanders

He might have earned some money for his celebrity value

As for being upset when someone you don't like does well......Have you looked around the last 8 or so years They're literally firebombing teslas right now Cancel culture There was a planned "economic blackout" just to protest people you don't like being successful Right or wrong it's a pretty standard reaction to not wish success on people or institutions you dislike

mass coach and player turmoil

 

[BeaverSlayerReincarnated69]

Sure, here you go. I'm not going to get in a rebuttal with you about each one, but it sure seems like a whole lot of rhetoric just to try to prove they're not a national power, which I agree with BTW...as I stated.

How is any of that nonsensical?

Like you said, let's not go point for point for point, but just a few:

Would you disagree that his best players the first 2 years, either had his last name, or came with him because of a personal relationship(Hunter)?

Would you not agree it's weird to be on a Husker board and debating the success of a rival team(whether thats you or not)?

We agreed that he earned his money largely in part to his off the field value and revenue brought to the school...

And a conference championship representative, that only beat 1 of the top 10 teams in that conference(in an improbable GL fumble leading to OT), seems like a pretty good argument for them being a sham....just IMO

You clearly don't care for most of that rhetoric, but I dont that it's nonsensical...

 

[schuele]

And a conference championship representative, that only beat 1 of the top 10 teams in that conference(in an improbable GL fumble leading to OT), seems like a pretty good argument for them being a sham....just IMO

Colorado didn't play in the Big 12 Championship Game. Arizona State played Iowa State.

Colorado played BYU in a bowl game - neither made the conference championship game.

 

[BeaverSlayerReincarnated69]

Colorado didn't play in the Big 12 Championship Game. Arizona State played Iowa State.

Colorado played BYU in a bowl game - neither made the conference championship game.

That is 100% correct. I completely forgot the BYU matchup was a weird bowl selection.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I hear ya. But again it's all relative. What else can you compare it to other than what they did previously. When they were going 1-10 or whatever schedule wasn't being brought up. But now it's a stickler because they are actually winning some of those games that they would've lost.

I'm a Nebraska fan so honestly I couldn't care less about CU. I guess I just see things a bit different than most . Be it Nebraska or Iowa or Colorado. Those wins don't carry the same weight in your mind ...UNLESS they lose them and THEN it matters. That's why I don't discount any win. The McNeese st win by Nebraska a few years back with Ameer didn't mean much in the grand scheme. It was just a win over a lower level team..UNLESS they had lost it. Then we look at it totally different. So for me I don't dig that far. A win is a win is a win. I'm especially giving credit for those wins when the guys before you wasn't getting them.

This could go on and on. I'm not changing you guys minds and you aren't changing mine. Let it keep playing out and see what happens. My main point was so far CU is doing better than most Husker fans thought they would be. Good enough to get the man a raise. It's ok to not like it. Also ok to question it. But the record is what it is and they have improved. Nothing more or less. They aren't world beaters. We kicked their ass and we barely made a bowl. But again relatively speaking they are doing better. That's it...I'll leave my comments there.





Holla

There are plenty of people on this forum that will bag on the Nebraska head coach for his record against winning teams. Whenever someone brings up year 3 at his past stops and the success of those seasons, there is always posters that will write that those wins were against unranked teams and that at Baylor, even though he went 11-3 and played in a conference championship game, they only beat 1 ranked team. It is sort of the nature of the beast to criticize the results when they are against weaker competition. It is generally accepted that Florida St was not selected to play in the last 4 team playoff because their schedule was weaker than the other schools. So to imply that a win is a win is probably a losing argument just as a loss is a loss argument is probably faulty as well. Clearly some wins and some losses carry more weight. Colorado lost 3 games to unranked opponents, 1 of those losses was to a team with a losing record. Nebraska, who is probably no longer considered an elite program, loses to unranked UCLA and the entire Husker fanbase came down on Rhule. I think back to the 2016 Nebraska season where they won 9 games but were 0-3 against ranked teams, no one was proclaiming Mike Riley to be an elite coach and no one was giving him $10 mil a year.

 

[Landomatic]

How is any of that nonsensical?

Like you said, let's not go point for point for point, but just a few:

You clearly don't care for most of that rhetoric, but I dont that it's nonsensical...

Sure, I'll play along...why not?

Would you disagree that his best players the first 2 years, either had his last name, or came with him because of a personal relationship(Hunter)?

First of all, you didn't say that, you said his best players had his last name. There were only 2 of them and one was mediocre at best. And no, those 2 weren't his best players. There are several that are better than Shilo and at least one that's probably better than Shedeur. Second, of course they came to him because of a personal relationship. Just about every player on every team does. It's called recruiting.

Would you not agree it's weird to be on a Husker board and debating the success of a rival team(whether thats you or not)?

I don't think it's weird that people are justifying Deion's pay raise. The thread is about it. I expect it to be discussed. I don't see anyone "white knighting for Colorados scum ass coach and program" though, which is what you said. I've stated multiple times what a ass herpe puss filled sore of a program sCUm is and I haven't seen anyone else in here even disputing that, let alone white knighting for them.

We agreed that he earned his money largely in part to his off the field value and revenue brought to the school...

Again, that's not really what you said (at least in the one post that I quoted). What you said was, "relative to the absurd hype he's brought them by being a successful black coach who's beating back racism and changing the sport, then yes he has earned his salary from monetary value alone." Look, I'm about as generic middle aged conservative white guy as it gets, but if that's not nonsensical rhetoric, I don't know what is.

And a conference championship representative, that only beat 1 of the top 10 teams in that conference(in an improbable GL fumble leading to OT), seems like a pretty good argument for them being a sham....just IMO

Eh, sorry to break this to you, but again, not exactly what you said. What you said was, "it was the biggest sham team and heisman winner in modern NCAA history." Huge reach with regard to the team. They finished 25th. There are several teams every year that benefit from a weak schedule. It's part of the game. And you're flat out wrong on the Heisman part. A consensus first round NFL pick is not "the biggest sham heisman winner in NCAA history."

You seem to be going backward in this argument so I'll do you a favor and end it there. I get the point you were trying to make, I agree with and respect your dislike for sCUm as a program, and I sincerely appreciate your willingness and ability to stay (mostly) civil in this entertaining off-season sports debate. Respect!

 

[BeaverSlayerReincarnated69]

Sure, I'll play along...why not?



First of all, you didn't say that, you said his best players had his last name. There were only 2 of them and one was mediocre at best. And no, those 2 weren't his best players. There are several that are better than Shilo and at least one that's probably better than Shedeur. Second, of course they came to him because of a personal relationship. Just about every player on every team does. It's called recruiting.



I don't think it's weird that people are justifying Deion's pay raise. The thread is about it. I expect it to be discussed. I don't see anyone "white knighting for Colorados scum ass coach and program" though, which is what you said. I've stated multiple times what a ass herpe puss filled sore of a program sCUm is and I haven't seen anyone else in here even disputing that, let alone white knighting for them.



Again, that's not really what you said (at least in the one post that I quoted). What you said was, "relative to the absurd hype he's brought them by being a successful black coach who's beating back racism and changing the sport, then yes he has earned his salary from monetary value alone." Look, I'm about as generic middle aged conservative white guy as it gets, but if that's not nonsensical rhetoric, I don't know what is.



Eh, sorry to break this to you, but again, not exactly what you said. What you said was, "it was the biggest sham team and heisman winner in modern NCAA history." Huge reach with regard to the team. They finished 25th. There are several teams every year that benefit from a weak schedule. It's part of the game. And you're flat out wrong on the Heisman part. A consensus first round NFL pick is not "the biggest sham heisman winner in NCAA history."

You seem to be going backward in this argument so I'll do you a favor and end it there. I get the point you were trying to make, I agree with and respect your dislike for sCUm as a program, and I sincerely appreciate your willingness and ability to stay (mostly) civil in this entertaining off-season sports debate. Respect!

When I think "nonsense", I don't think of micro hair splits like in general saying his best players have his last name, but then being upset about hunter who calls deion a father all the time, talks about "family meals" went on recruiting visits together, etc.....like you said, you knew the point I was making, so that doesn't seem "nonsensical"

At least you're calling them scum. I can get behind a ceasefire brother....GBR

 

[SantaBarbaraSker]

Colorado didn't play in the Big 12 Championship Game. Arizona State played Iowa State.

Colorado played BYU in a bowl game - neither made the conference championship game.

And may I add…got their ass, handed to them by BYU…



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[kakdawg]

Sure, here you go. I'm not going to get in a rebuttal with you about each one, but it sure seems like a whole lot of rhetoric just to try to prove they're not a national power, which I agree with BTW...as I stated.

Ouch 😂


Holla

 

[bmb81664]

The best part of this thread was finding out I am among the 1% of the wealthiest Nebraskans. I had no idea.

 

[RBigredMax]

The best part of this thread was finding out I am among the 1% of the wealthiest Nebraskans. I had no idea.

 

[GBRforLife1]

they didn't before Deion arrived

in the two years since, back to back record breaking revenue years

https://www.denverpost.com/2025/01/...ue-expenses-in-2024-fiscal-year/?noamp=mobile

add in the fact his team won 9 games on the field, and I'm surprised people consider this anything but a no-brainer (lol jk)

certainly did more to earn this extension than Frost and Hoiberg did theirs

The people who hold up the 9 wins as anything more than a paper tiger are funny.

 

[GBRforLife1]

Calling CU a national power is cringe-worthy, but you knew they had to give Sanders what he wanted. The entire athletic department was on life support when he got there, and now it’s in the black. I’m not sure anyone at CU seriously thinks he’s going to build a conference champion or a playoff team, but it’s better than offering a 4-pack of football tickets for $50 and still not being able to sell them.

Giving him what he wanted is moronic. Giving him half of what he wanted would have been practical and still overpaying.

 

[GBRforLife1]

Glad you're not running any of my businesses.

Popcorn sales or lemonade stand?

 

[GBRforLife1]

You could be proven right eventually but as of right now you would be wrong.

How long does he have to go before people admit they missed it?

Fwiw I always thought he would do as good as the assistant coaches he hired. He will some talent in there.



They are paying him 10 mil a year. Apparently the demise of the CU bank roll by Husker fans has been greatly exaggerated. Evidently they have some money laying around somewhere.


Holla

Missed what? They played a terrible schedule. They nearly lost to North Dakota State.

 

[huskerj12]

I think it's pretty easy to hold a few different things in mind:

1. I hate CU and thought Sanders was a chump
2. I thought he would crash and burn and/or dip out after year 2
3. He did better than I expected in the W/L columns
4. He has brought unbelievable attention and publicity and money to CU
5. Therefore he is worth whatever CU wants to pay him because they see a positive trajectory
6. I still hate CU and think Sanders is a chump

 

[kakdawg]

There are plenty of people on this forum that will bag on the Nebraska head coach for his record against winning teams. Whenever someone brings up year 3 at his past stops and the success of those seasons, there is always posters that will write that those wins were against unranked teams and that at Baylor, even though he went 11-3 and played in a conference championship game, they only beat 1 ranked team. It is sort of the nature of the beast to criticize the results when they are against weaker competition. It is generally accepted that Florida St was not selected to play in the last 4 team playoff because their schedule was weaker than the other schools. So to imply that a win is a win is probably a losing argument just as a loss is a loss argument is probably faulty as well. Clearly some wins and some losses carry more weight. Colorado lost 3 games to unranked opponents, 1 of those losses was to a team with a losing record. Nebraska, who is probably no longer considered an elite program, loses to unranked UCLA and the entire Husker fanbase came down on Rhule. I think back to the 2016 Nebraska season where they won 9 games but were 0-3 against ranked teams, no one was proclaiming Mike Riley to be an elite coach and no one was giving him $10 mil a year.

As far as schedule mattering I won't disagree. My point is in the past couple years you would lose to that same caliber of team. If you are beating them now is that better?

Not one place itt did you see me call him an "elite" coach. So you can't be speaking on what I said.

I said he has Colorado in a better place on and off the field than the previous guys. He's also generated enough positive interest and revenue that the powers that be decided he was worth the 10 million.

That's a handsome pay raise that they think he deserves. Whether we like it or not.

There are plenty of people on this forum that will bag on the Nebraska head coach for his record against winning teams. Whenever someone brings up year 3 at his past stops and the success of those seasons, there is always posters that will write that those wins were against unranked teams and that at Baylor, even though he went 11-3 and played in a conference championship game, they only beat 1 ranked team. It is sort of the nature of the beast to criticize the results when they are against weaker competition. It is generally accepted that Florida St was not selected to play in the last 4 team playoff because their schedule was weaker than the other schools. So to imply that a win is a win is probably a losing argument just as a loss is a loss argument is probably faulty as well. Clearly some wins and some losses carry more weight. Colorado lost 3 games to unranked opponents, 1 of those losses was to a team with a losing record. Nebraska, who is probably no longer considered an elite program, loses to unranked UCLA and the entire Husker fanbase came down on Rhule. I think back to the 2016 Nebraska season where they won 9 games but were 0-3 against ranked teams, no one was proclaiming Mike Riley to be an elite coach and no one was giving him $10 mil a year.

I think it's pretty easy to hold a few different things in mind:

1. I hate CU and thought Sanders was a chump
2. I thought he would crash and burn and/or dip out after year 2
3. He did better than I expected in the W/L columns
4. He has brought unbelievable attention and publicity and money to CU
5. Therefore he is worth whatever CU wants to pay him because they see a positive trajectory
6. I still hate CU and think Sanders is a chump

All that is very fair. Most can't make it to this level of truth. Thank you. I believe there are many who believe the same but wouldn't dare say it.


Holla

 

[kakdawg]

Missed what? They played a terrible schedule. They nearly lost to North Dakota State.

Where did I say they played a good schedule and didn't nearly lose to NDS?


Holla

 

[GBRforLife1]

Where did I say they played a good schedule and didn't nearly lose to NDS?


Holla

Oh I can play this game too. Where did I say you said that?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

As far as schedule mattering I won't disagree. My point is in the past couple years you would lose to that same caliber of team. If you are beating them now is that better?

Not one place itt did you see me call him an "elite" coach. So you can't be speaking on what I said.

I said he has Colorado in a better place on and off the field than the previous guys. He's also generated enough positive interest and revenue that the powers that be decided he was worth the 10 million.

That's a handsome pay raise that they think he deserves. Whether we like it or not.

That is a weak argument. Clearly someone is always "worth" what someone is willing to pay. That doesn't mean it is a good investment or worth the money.

So just because the University of Colorado thinks he deserves it or is worth it, "whether I like it or not" doesn't mean that I have to agree that he is worth it or deserves it. He is still one a single win above .500 at Colorado.

 

[kakdawg]

Oh I can play this game too. Where did I say you said that?

You didn't. But you responded to me. Was I not supposed to take it that way?


Holla

 

[kakdawg]

That is a weak argument. Clearly someone is always "worth" what someone is willing to pay. That doesn't mean it is a good investment or worth the money.

So just because the University of Colorado thinks he deserves it or is worth it, "whether I like it or not" doesn't mean that I have to agree that he is worth it or deserves it. He is still one a single win above .500 at Colorado.

We are pretty much going in circles. Like I said I'm not gonna change some of you guys minds just like you won't change mine. Right or wrong Colorado gave him what they gave him. Easy schedule and all they had to play and win the games they won. Never said they were world beaters never even said they were a great team. I said they are in a better place than they were before Prime got there on and off the field and he has been rewarded for that. I also so many Hisker fans didn't think that would be the case as of right now.

That's about it for me on the subject.



Holla

 

[king_kong_]

I said they are in a better place than they were before Prime got there on and off the field and he has been rewarded for that

Really is this simple

No arguing it

 

[king_kong_]

That is a weak argument. Clearly someone is always "worth" what someone is willing to pay. That doesn't mean it is a good investment or worth the money.

So just because the University of Colorado thinks he deserves it or is worth it, "whether I like it or not" doesn't mean that I have to agree that he is worth it or deserves it. He is still one a single win above .500 at Colorado.

Our guy is one game under .500 and has 6 years $62M left on his contract

 

[Bugeater]

Man, it's like Coach Prime started this thread himself and then waited for some of you to turn on each other. What a sinister person he is.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Our guy is one game under .500 and has 6 years $62M left on his contract

January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2025 $7,500,000
January 1, 2026 through December 31, 2026 $8,500,000
January 1, 2027 through December 31, 2027 $10,000,000
January 1, 2028 through December 31, 2028 $11,500,000
January 1, 2029 through December 31, 2029 $12,000,000
January 1, 2030 through December 2031 $12,500,000 per annum

So Rhule will not make as much as $10mil per year until 2027

Sander's deal
Sanders will earn $10 million in 2025 and 2026,
$11 million in 2027 and 2028,
$12 million in 2029.

Let's see what the records are at the end of 2027.

 

[SantaBarbaraSker]

Missed what? They played a terrible schedule. They nearly lost to North Dakota State.

And took a Hail Mary on the last play of the game to beat Baylor, in Boulder.




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[redwine65]

is 10 million a year keeping neon deon down?

 

[SantaBarbaraSker]

is 10 million a year keeping neon deon down?

No…That would be the white man.






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