Big boy recruiting

[otismotis08]

We are recruiting like big boys. Overall #8 ranking, and a #8 ranking in average stars. If MR & Co. can finish this class in the Top 10 based on average stars, I'll be thrilled.

Speaking of big boys, we could use a few of them for our next few commits. I'm sure JP and others are lining them up.

GBR

 

[HuskerLLM]

No way to finish top 10 overall with small class...maybe in average

As for bigs...Carson here this last weekend and Culpeper next...one more DL spot left

 

[TFrazier]

Imagine the impact having a good season on the "actual" field would have on recruiting. The recruiting results by this staff is impressive to say the least.

Even though they go hand in hand...sometimes it seems like recruiting is more important than the games for many fans.

 

[DudznSudz]

Imagine the impact having a good season on the "actual" field would have on recruiting. The recruiting results by this staff is impressive to say the least.

Even though they go hand in hand...sometimes it seems like recruiting is more important than the games for many fans.

You're right about this, but I think the lag between wins and great classes can be a few years. Think of all of the really great recruiting classes and programs that consistently land in the top 20 in recruiting (looking at you, UCLA, Georgia, Ole Miss), and yet seem to land on records of 7-5 or 8-4 all the time. I think we'll definitely do better, but we're only getting these recruiting classes to kick ass as of what, last year? 2 years ago? I'd say we're a year or two away from turning that onto on-field dominance. I don't expect that this year, and maybe not even in 2018. But soon, I expect us to be back in the top 10 and looking at the Playoffs regularly. With the level of talent we have coming in the door now, it has to happen at some point.

 

[c3ntral08]

Hopefully we end with Stratford and Carson. Did Stratford make it to FNL this past weekend?

 

[Husker Sledge]

Daniel Carson looks like a super great prospect! Much better than 5.7 3*.

 

[HuskerLLM]

Hopefully we end with Stratford and Carson. Did Stratford make it to FNL this past weekend?

Was on campus for a few hours Saturday, did not participate in Big Man/FNL

This was in reference to Stratford...Carson was in for FNL

 

[HuskerLLM]

Daniel Carson looks like a super great prospect! Much better than 5.7 3*.

He should be in everyone's top 247/250/300 list

 

[SnohomishRed]

You're right about this, but I think the lag between wins and great classes can be a few years. Think of all of the really great recruiting classes and programs that consistently land in the top 20 in recruiting (looking at you, UCLA, Georgia, Ole Miss), and yet seem to land on records of 7-5 or 8-4 all the time. I think we'll definitely do better, but we're only getting these recruiting classes to kick ass as of what, last year? 2 years ago? I'd say we're a year or two away from turning that onto on-field dominance. I don't expect that this year, and maybe not even in 2018. But soon, I expect us to be back in the top 10 and looking at the Playoffs regularly. With the level of talent we have coming in the door now, it has to happen at some point.

I hope so but we do need to see better improved play on the field now - we need to stop the embarrassing losses like OSU last year and we need to play much better defense this year in many ways.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Imagine the impact having a good season on the "actual" field would have on recruiting. The recruiting results by this staff is impressive to say the least.

Even though they go hand in hand...sometimes it seems like recruiting is more important than the games for many fans.

Not at all, and it seems the only people that tend to say this are the people who have bagged on the current staff since day 1.

 

[headcard]

Imagine the impact having a good season on the "actual" field would have on recruiting. The recruiting results by this staff is impressive to say the least.

Even though they go hand in hand...sometimes it seems like recruiting is more important than the games for many fans.

This has to be a troll, right? I don't think anyone would actually believe that.

 

[NYC-Husker]

This has to be a troll, right? I don't think anyone would actually believe that.

I think it probably looks like that since the football season is basically 4 months out of the year, and we need something to write/talk about during the other 8 months.

And if we are going to speak about it so much, I'm happy that it's to praise the staff's progress and dream about a stronger roster in the future, rather than to talk about the diamonds in the rough we are getting on the recruiting trail.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I hope and expect that we will finish this recruiting cycle on a strong note and hang on to the guys already committed.

But it is very, very important, in my humble opinion, that we also have a good season on the field of play this year. Momentum in recruiting goes hand in hand with momentum on the field.

We also need some luck this year by not having critical injuries to key players. We also need our veteran leaders to stay out of trouble and set an example.

 

[nebcountry]

This has to be a troll, right? I don't think anyone would actually believe that.

I don't know. If it's okay to win just 7 games because one thinks recruiting is going well, then it seems like a pretty accurate statement.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I don't know. If it's okay to win just 7 games because one thinks recruiting is going well, then it seems like a pretty accurate statement.

No one said it's ok to win 7 games though. This is further attempt by the "Riley ain't the right guy" crowd to create a false narrative.

The bolded part of original post was "even though they go hand in hand, sometimes it seems like recruiting is more important than the games for many fans". To that I would say that between Jan 15 and Sept 2, recruiting is more important than winning games, since there are no games to win. I dont recall reading anything on here, between Sept and Nov where a fan said well we lost to Iowa but thank goodness we are recruiting well.

Again this is just more retoric to further divide an already split fanbase in a race to say I told you so.

 

[vs540husker]

Not at all, and it seems the only people that tend to say this are the people who have bagged on the current staff since day 1.

The only problem with this, is that much of the original staff is no longer here.
I bagged on the hiring of Riley a sh*t ton. Now however, it has been shown that winning actually matters and through much needed firings of multiple assistants that were not cutting the mustard and a very big emphasis on recruiting, I am more than satisfied with the direction of the program.
Winning is what matters at the end of the day, but as of right now, at least Riley is actually doing what good coaches are suppose to do, make the necessary changes to try to improve the product on the field. Which is something the previous two head coaches would not do.

 

[vs540husker]

and a #8 ranking in average stars.

This is the stat that matters most. Okie lite has a top 10 class at the moment but that's because they have 17 commits, all but one are 3 stars.

Nebraska should be shooting for a ~3.6 or higher average star rating each year.

 

[big red22]

No one said it's ok to win 7 games though. This is further attempt by the "Riley ain't the right guy" crowd to create a false narrative.

The bolded part of original post was "even though they go hand in hand, sometimes it seems like recruiting is more important than the games for many fans". To that I would say that between Jan 15 and Sept 2, recruiting is more important than winning games, since there are no games to win. I have recall reading anything on here, between Sept and Nov where a fan said well we lost to Iowa but thank goodness we are recruiting well.

Again this is just more retoric to further divide an already split fanbase in a race to say I told you so.

I have no idea how this post only has 2 likes. This is absolutely spot on!

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

I have no idea how this post only has 2 likes. This is absolutely spot on!

Pretty sure it's because he's a Mexican. I blame Trump.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Pretty sure it's because he's a Mexican. I blame Trump.

Concur

 

[tone1017]

I would not say recruiting is more important than on field results, but what ultimately matters to me most is competing for and winning championships, conference and the big one. At this point with our current talent level and experience that seems unlikely this season. Recruiting elite talent is the best way to compete for said championships so in that regard I would say getting an elite class and going 7-5 is preferable to getting an ok class and going 9-3. Maybe that makes me crazy but that's the truth. Personally I think we should just go 15-0 and get the #1 class as well.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Pretty sure it's because he's a Mexican. I blame Trump.

He has more likes than post's, so that ain't it.....I blame it on global warming.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I stand corrected. Apparently winning 7 games is acceptable to some.

With that said, I don't believe that "many" fans would be happy with top 10 recruiting classes and 7-5 regular seasons. In fact, I don't believe @tone1017 would be happy with it for more than the 2017 season.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

He has more likes than post's, so that ain't it.....I blame it on global warming.

That's because I'm Mexican too.

 

[tone1017]

I stand corrected. Apparently winning 7 games is acceptable to some.

With that said, I don't believe that "many" fans would be happy with top 10 recruiting classes and 7-5 regular seasons. In fact, I don't believe @tone1017 would be happy with it for more than the 2017 season.

Right, the talent level is definitely on the way up and with this particular season losing so many starters and implementing a new defense I just don't think we have the firepower to win a title. So if given the choice I'd rather keep stocking up for the future. However in reality it's likely the better we do on the field the better we'll do in recruiting so let's just win em all.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Global warming is because of Mexicans.

 

[DudznSudz]

Global warming is because of Mexicans.

No, it's a Chinese conspiracy.

 

[yunginsNU2]

Pretty sure the Mexicans speaking chi ese in Russia is the real culprits

 

[TFrazier]

This has to be a troll, right? I don't think anyone would actually believe that.

Not trolling at all. Just wondering out loud if this is the case for some fans. As long as Nebraska Football is winning at some aspect on the field or off the field some fans seem satisfied.

I am happy with the recruiting effort and results so far. Like most fans I want to see it translate with player development and wins on the field.

I guess I want it all..."hopefully".

 

[nebcountry]

I stand corrected. Apparently winning 7 games is acceptable to some.

With that said, I don't believe that "many" fans would be happy with top 10 recruiting classes and 7-5 regular seasons. In fact, I don't believe @tone1017 would be happy with it for more than the 2017 season.

As for the fans, acceptable results vary from year to year. I wasn't trolling in my first post, rather, just an observation. The existing narrative at this point: "whatever happens on the field is okay because we appear to be heading in the right direction". This is not my narrative, just the prevalent one. And yes, some fans add their own twist to the narrative, but it paints the same picture.

okay ≠ cartwheels and high fives.
okay = no gigantic hissy fits from not winning enough.

What is acceptable to any fan in June (including myself) may be entirely different than what was acceptable after the season was over. And next year will likely come with a whole new set of fan expectations.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

As for the fans, acceptable results vary from year to year. I wasn't trolling in my first post, rather, just an observation. The existing narrative at this point: "whatever happens on the field is okay because we appear to be heading in the right direction". This is not my narrative, just the prevalent one. And yes, some fans add their own twist to the narrative, but it paints the same picture.

okay ≠ cartwheels and high fives.
okay = no gigantic hissy fits from not winning enough.

What is acceptable to any fan in June (including myself) may be entirely different than what was acceptable after the season was over. And next year will likely come with a whole new set of fan expectations.

Making the assertation that "most" fans seem to be ok with results on the field as long as the recruiting is going well is just faulty. While the season is going, I don't believe "most" fans are ok with losing any games, let alone 5 games. The Fact that there is nothing going on, on the field, right now,makes it easy to get excited about recruiting, especially when it is going as well as it is.

If the huskers lose early or big or to a team they shouldn't, that will be the prevailing narrative. The great recruiting that went on during the spring and summer would be forgotten and the focus would be on the loses.

 

[HBK4life]

Concur

 

[huskerssalts]

Usually when you have coach or coaches that know how to coach up the talent is in place and your getting talent like we have been, it translates to wins and title runs. Riley and coaches seem to know how to coach up the kids so it's hard not to get excited with the talent we are getting in. Remember last year was still basically Bos players, soon Rileys guys will be all over the field and then and only then will we know if this recruiting wins was worth all the excitement.