Big 12 vs PAC 12: Who is in better shape?
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I remember Kansas State also losing their bowl game that year..........to an okay-ish BiG TeN team.
You know, back in the 90's aka K State's 'Decade of Dominance'.
Sirr Parker racing to that overtime TD in the Big 12 title game remains one of my favorite non-Husker plays of all time.I remember Kansas State also losing their bowl game that year..........to an okay-ish BiG TeN team.
You know, back in the 90's aka K State's 'Decade of Dominance'.
Purdue's Drew Brees.I remember Kansas State also losing their bowl game that year..........to an okay-ish BiG TeN team.
You know, back in the 90's aka K State's 'Decade of Dominance'.
What a bastardization of a conference lmao. I thought smu was religious and the PAC 12 against that kind of stuff??Done.
Some irony in your post given the LA schools move to the B10, but whatever, the Bruins playing at Michigan in November should be funny.
It's just crazy what in the end Texas caused to happen to college sports' alignment, rivalries, budgets, travel, etc.
The two LA whole fit the B1G other than play style, but that's shifting within the conference these days.
SMU only makes sense in the AAC or the big 12...
And SDS? Yikes haha
From a competitive football standpoint, Fresno State and Boise State would have been the most logical choices to replace USC and UCLA. The only reason San Diego State and SMU are even being considered is because they are located in large media markets.
Brett McMurphy said it best when describing the systemic problem facing the PAC. College FB is, and has been for some time, nose diving in the Western third of the country. Put simply, no one cares. Larry Scott knew that, which is why he twice tried to take Texas, TT, Oklahoma, and Kansas (the second time) from the Big 12. The president/chancellors of UCLA and USC know it, which is why they made the ridiculous/desperate move to a conference on a different planet. I wonder if those two schools reached out to the SEC, which would be a better choice. Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, LSU could juice up their fan base -what's left of it - better than Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Illinois can. And it's not academics. There is nothing in either conference that they need to maintain their popularity and academic status. It's Southern California. Looking at the numbers, the Big 12 would probably take Arizona and Colorado (although Colorado does not appear to give a shit about any of this) and no one else.
There is a non-zero chance sdsu outlasts all 8+ B1G teams (including a projected 1-seed) during March madness this year
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I think I read somewhere that if you take Washington, Washington State is the consolation prize... The Washington legislature is writing a bill that both schools must stay in the same conference.
That might keep the B1G from taking Washington. Washington State doesn't really move the needle for the B1G.
The way I understand it, the measure has a ways to go before it becomes law, might not make it through session this year. It is possible a cabal of Huskie grads now in the legislature might not vote for it. Don't forget some regents and politicians in California didn't want to allow UCLA to go without Berkeley, but that opposition fell apart in short order.
I believe the four corner schools are highest priority, not washington. that said, if any of them go b12 the p12 craters into something other than power five.
Washington and Oregon would give the Big 12 a couple of flagship programs, like Texass and Oklahoma. However, it's unlikely either of them join the Big 12 due to the fact that they want to go to the B1G.
Agreed. That's why the B12 should be trying to get the four corner schools, three of which are flagships as you call them.
The only one of the four corner schools that has been consistently good in recent history is Utah. They could likely enter the Big 12 and immediately compete for the conference championship. The other three are kind of meh, but they have fielded some good teams in the past, so there is potential.
I, for one, cannot wait until the 60 or so most relevant and influential schools eschew these silly conferences & the toothless NCAA in favor of their own league
it seems to be moving that direction at snails pace, doesn't it. the new ncaa president is residing in boston rather than indy. i find that odd and perhaps a signal of what's ahead, disassociation.
yep
have fun playing iowa down the road while Nebraska competes in the grown up league
lol. i watched your basketball team v. k-state. i watched tcu football v. the b10's M. don't give me this grown up malarkey, please.
where were you when you realized wins and losses don't mean anything in a world where revenue generation is all that matters?
my guess - reading this board!
I think the B1G is waiting for the PAC 12 to collapse before they take any more teams from the PAC.
The big 12 is strong because they are centrally located (more flexibility fir media game times) and after the recent big12 and p12 departures no other conference wants any of their teams.
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The fact that the SEC and the B1G don't want any teams from the Big 12 isn't exactly a good thing. It means that the Big 12 is a conference filled with a bunch of meh teams.
Oklahoma is clearly the best historical team in the Big 12. Once they leave, who does the Big 12 have to carry the torch for them? TCU? LMAO, the team that suffered the most embarrassing loss in college football playoff history carrying the torch for the Big 12.
Even if the Big 12 gets the four corners schools, how much does that really help them? How long has it been since Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State been relevant? Utah is the only team that's been relevant recently, but clearly they are not on the same level as Oklahoma.
the irony here ^^^ is overwhelming.
ku and arizona hoops are blue blood, top tier. baylor, houston and k-state are really solid.
utah, oSu, k-state, tcu, baylor all have 21st century conference championship football tradition. it's a new league filled with new players, sorta like new money v. old money.
but the issue will be just that - the money disparity between ours, yours and theirs, as rightly pointed out by fsu's a.d. earlier this week.
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