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Amish people - destroying vaccine fear-mongering for decades

I can’t believe people have any trust in pharmaceutical institutions and studies after what they witnessed with Covid.

What will be uncovered soon is the relationships with Gov, pharma and peer reviewed studies.

Eat healthy, exercise and take care of your mind (stress) and you’ll maximize your time in your vessel.
 
I would think the slur of being a "conspiracy theorist" would have died given that the conspiracy theorists were right just about everything when it came to Covid. I'm also hoping there is going to be a lot more conspiracy theories proven right with the transparency the Trump Administration has promised.

I know that I won't convince anyone that the pharmaceutical companies don't have our best interest at heart when it comes to vaccines if the last 4 years and the Covid shot debacle didn't convince you, but I'm a glutton for punishment, so here it goes:

I have two vaccine injured kids. Because of that, I did a lot of research on vaccines and the lack of standard, placebo double blind studies that have been done on them. I'm always amazed at the fact that pharmaceutical companies are the most fined companies in history and have provably put out drugs that they knew were going to cause injury and death but calculated that the money they would make would exceed any fines they would have to pay, so they went ahead and rolled out the drug. They have literally killed thousands of people. And those were with drugs that did go through blind placebo-based testing. However, people somehow think that they found Jesus when it comes to the products that make them the most, that they don't have to do placebo testing on, that the government mandates (so they don't have to market them), and that they have liability protection for.

The "conspiracy theory" and "tinfoil hat" insults are often just a good way to dismiss someone rather than doing the research yourself. To my shame, I did the same thing to my wife's OBGYN when he told us we really needed to research vaccines before we gave them to our kids. Thankfully, many prominent doctors who were right about Covid but mercilessly branded as "quacks", taken before medical boards, and had their licenses threatened or even revoked were awakened and finally did their own research into the childhood vaccine schedule and came to the conclusion that none of the vaccines on the current schedule went through the same rigorous testing that is required of all other pharmaceutical drugs.

So, that's my stance. Call me a kook, quack, or conspiracy theorist all you want, but I was totally unsurprised about everything that came to light about the pharma companies and how they do vaccine safety testing that came out during Covid because I had been dealing with it for 10 years by that time.
What injuries do they have, what vaccine, and how did you pinpoint it down to exactly the vaccine?
 
I haven’t seen many take umbrage with the efficacy of these well researched vaccines

Only with the delivery mechanism and the heavy metals that are injected with them. Also the timing of delivery.

Maybe those heavy metals are necessary? Maybe they are not?

Maybe they only work in newborns? Maybe not?
The science is there, but if people prefer vague “maybe this, maybe that” speculation over decades of hard data, it’s not really a debate, it’s just doubt for the sake of doubt.

Heavy metals? Trace, broadly safe, and less than in food and water. Timing? Based on decades of immunology. Vaccines work at all ages. No “maybe” about it.
 
The science is there, but if people prefer vague “maybe this, maybe that” speculation over decades of hard data, it’s not really a debate, it’s just doubt for the sake of doubt.

Heavy metals? Trace, broadly safe, and less than in food and water. Timing? Based on decades of immunology. Vaccines work at all ages. No “maybe” about it.
Interesting. Comparing food and water to an injection. Purposely deceiving? You sound like the science lovers who enjoy their water full of fluoride.
 
I would think the slur of being a "conspiracy theorist" would have died given that the conspiracy theorists were right just about everything when it came to Covid. I'm also hoping there is going to be a lot more conspiracy theories proven right with the transparency the Trump Administration has promised.

I know that I won't convince anyone that the pharmaceutical companies don't have our best interest at heart when it comes to vaccines if the last 4 years and the Covid shot debacle didn't convince you, but I'm a glutton for punishment, so here it goes:

I have two vaccine injured kids. Because of that, I did a lot of research on vaccines and the lack of standard, placebo double blind studies that have been done on them. I'm always amazed at the fact that pharmaceutical companies are the most fined companies in history and have provably put out drugs that they knew were going to cause injury and death but calculated that the money they would make would exceed any fines they would have to pay, so they went ahead and rolled out the drug. They have literally killed thousands of people. And those were with drugs that did go through blind placebo-based testing. However, people somehow think that they found Jesus when it comes to the products that make them the most, that they don't have to do placebo testing on, that the government mandates (so they don't have to market them), and that they have liability protection for.

The "conspiracy theory" and "tinfoil hat" insults are often just a good way to dismiss someone rather than doing the research yourself. To my shame, I did the same thing to my wife's OBGYN when he told us we really needed to research vaccines before we gave them to our kids. Thankfully, many prominent doctors who were right about Covid but mercilessly branded as "quacks", taken before medical boards, and had their licenses threatened or even revoked were awakened and finally did their own research into the childhood vaccine schedule and came to the conclusion that none of the vaccines on the current schedule went through the same rigorous testing that is required of all other pharmaceutical drugs.

So, that's my stance. Call me a kook, quack, or conspiracy theorist all you want, but I was totally unsurprised about everything that came to light about the pharma companies and how they do vaccine safety testing that came out during Covid because I had been dealing with it for 10 years by that time.
Skepticism is healthy but rejecting overwhelming evidence is not.

Pharmaceutical companies prioritize profit, no argument there. But that doesn’t mean all their products are harmful. Seatbelts exist despite car recalls, and vaccines save lives despite pharma’s flaws. The idea that COVID “conspiracy theorists were right” ignores facts: mRNA vaccines do not rewrite DNA, ivermectin failed large-scale trials, masks reduced transmission, and excess mortality confirmed COVID’s severity.

Vaccines do undergo randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and ongoing safety monitoring. While vaccine injuries exist, they’re exceptionally rare compared to the lives saved, hundreds of millions vs thousands harmed. We live in an imperfect world. Calling oneself a conspiracy theorist doesn’t make bad arguments better. Skepticism is useful when it’s based on evidence, not just distrust. No name calling, we all have our points of view.
 
The science is there, but if people prefer vague “maybe this, maybe that” speculation over decades of hard data, it’s not really a debate, it’s just doubt for the sake of doubt.

Heavy metals? Trace, broadly safe, and less than in food and water. Timing? Based on decades of immunology. Vaccines work at all ages. No “maybe” about it.
Nothing is more scientific than asking questions.

Sorry you don’t like mine.
 
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Interesting. Comparing food and water to an injection. Purposely deceiving? You sound like the science lovers who enjoy their water full of fluoride.
Not deceptive, just context. The body processes aluminum similarly, whether ingested or injected or even suckled from the teat. Why yes, I trust the scientific method and if that makes me a "science lover," so be it! In fact, I take far more issue with what’s allowed in food than in vaccines. Fluoride? A wizard at preventing cavities, but not great for the microbiome. How do we know? You guessed it, science!
 
Not deceptive, just context. The body processes aluminum similarly, whether ingested or injected or even suckled from the teat. Why yes, I trust the scientific method and if that makes me a "science lover," so be it! In fact, I take far more issue with what’s allowed in food than in vaccines. Fluoride? A wizard at preventing cavities, but not great for the microbiome. How do we know? You guessed it, science!
Wrong on the first part.

Fluoride is also a neurotoxin. So it’s a little more than causing GERD.

Aluminum in the blood stream via injection is far different than passing thru the gut and body filtration.
 
Wrong on the first part.
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Fluoride is also a neurotoxin. So it’s a little more than causing GERD

Aluminum in the blood stream via injection is far different than passing thru the gut and body filtration.
Great points!

Does fluoride cause more than GERD in most Americans who drink tap water? Is it your position that adjuvant aluminum is not fully processed and eliminated by the body without causing harm in most people? While it takes longer to clear than ingested aluminum and follows a different metabolic process, has it been definitively proven that this leads to significant harm? Do you believe the net benefit of vaccines, measured in lives saved versus harm caused, far outweighs the risks?
 
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Amish people - destroying vaccine fear-mongering for decades

I can’t believe people have any trust in pharmaceutical institutions and studies after what they witnessed with Covid.

What will be uncovered soon is the relationships with Gov, pharma and peer reviewed studies.

Eat healthy, exercise and take care of your mind (stress) and you’ll maximize your time in your vessel.
What did we witness with Covid besides excess deaths and hospitalizations? That’s what I witnessed.
 
There’s no point even trying.
Don’t worry, I’m sure all those refrigerated trucks in New York City were just fake news. I’m sure those tents outside ERs to screen all the people who were sick were just erected by the deep state. I’m sure all those patients on ventilators, on Rotoprone beds were faking it. I’m sure operation warp speed promoted by Trump was just a way of directing money to his buddies in big Pharma. I’m sure those news conferences he had were just for show. I’m sure him recommending hydroxychloroquine or others recommending ivermectin recommended these (questionable) treatments for something that didn’t exist.
Only one of my relatives, and one of my older colleagues died of Covid. But I’m sure the whole thing was a sham.

Because I say so.
 
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Don’t worry, I’m sure all those refrigerated trucks in New York City were just fake news. I’m sure those tents outside ERs to screen all the people who were sick were just erected by the deep state. I’m sure all those patients on ventilators, on Rotoprone beds were faking it. I’m sure operation warp speed promoted by Trump was just a way of directing money to his buddies in big Pharma. I’m sure those news conferences he had were just for show. I’m sure him recommending hydroxychloroquine or others recommending ivermectin recommended these (questionable) treatments for something that didn’t exist.
Only one of my relatives, and one of my older colleagues died of Covid. But I’m sure the whole thing was a sham.

Because I say so.
Good lord either a liar or exaggerator. What about all of the drs on record saying this was not handled correctly and went way overboard? Let me guess those DR’s science doesn’t mean anything.

Because you say so
 
Don’t worry, I’m sure all those refrigerated trucks in New York City were just fake news. I’m sure those tents outside ERs to screen all the people who were sick were just erected by the deep state. I’m sure all those patients on ventilators, on Rotoprone beds were faking it. I’m sure operation warp speed promoted by Trump was just a way of directing money to his buddies in big Pharma. I’m sure those news conferences he had were just for show. I’m sure him recommending hydroxychloroquine or others recommending ivermectin recommended these (questionable) treatments for something that didn’t exist.
Only one of my relatives, and one of my older colleagues died of Covid. But I’m sure the whole thing was a sham.

Because I say so.
You should get another booster just to be safe.
 
You should get another booster just to be safe.
I got on phase 3 Moderna trial because I had to take care of people and there was no publicly available vaccine at the time, and I’m older.
I don’t decide who should or should not get the vaccine. Neither do you.
 
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Good lord either a liar or exaggerator. What about all of the drs on record saying this was not handled correctly and went way overboard? Let me guess those DR’s science doesn’t mean anything.

Because you say so
I don’t know how the biggest pandemic in 100 years should have been handled. I’m pretty damn sure that if they would’ve had a flu vaccine in 1917/18 it might’ve helped. I don’t agree with all the money that was handed out to people who did not return to the workforce. That was inflationary.

All of the above is opinion on my part. There are a lot of people who aren’t around anymore because of Covid. Two of them, I knew personally. That isn’t an opinion.
 
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I got on phase 3 Moderna trial because I had to take care of people and there was no publicly available vaccine at the time, and I’m older.
I don’t decide who should or should not get the vaccine. Neither do you.
The Cult of Blind Obedience


Let’s have an honest conversation about the blue haired elephant in the room:


A disturbing trend has taken root in modern America and beyond. An increasing number of people have abandoned independent thought in favor of blind allegiance to government propaganda, corporate media narratives, and the latest social justice fads.


These individuals, often found on social media, eagerly parrot every talking point fed to them, obediently swap out their profile pictures with the latest approved symbol, signaling their compliance with whatever cause is deemed righteous at the moment.


These people are among the most intolerant and hateful individuals on the internet. They lash out at anyone who dares to question their worldview, resorting to name-calling rather than engaging in honest debate. Anyone who contradicts them is immediately labeled an “idiot,” “racist,” “transphobic,” “Nazi” —not because they’ve presented a flawed argument, but because disagreement itself is seen as an act of treason.


Even when policies they support actively harm them—whether it’s economic downturns, rising crime, or endless foreign wars—they refuse to acknowledge reality. Their loyalty isn’t to truth, logic, or even their own well-being—it’s to the ideology they’ve been conditioned to worship.


Social media has played a significant role in shaping and reinforcing this ideological conformity. Algorithms create echo chambers that reward engagement—whether through outrage or affirmation—leading many to adopt positions not through independent thought but through digital social pressure. Posting the "correct" symbols, flags, and slogans becomes a means of signaling virtue, while any deviation from the accepted narrative is met with hostility, ridicule, or outright cancellation.


Some argue these individuals exhibit signs of mass psychological conditioning, akin to cult members or victims of Stockholm syndrome. They defend the very institutions that manipulate and exploit them, clinging to comforting lies rather than facing inconvenient truths. They do not think—they react. They do not debate—they attack.


The real danger of this movement isn’t just its hostility to dissent, but its willingness to empower the very systems that strip away individual freedoms. By surrendering critical thinking in favor of ideological obedience, they become foot soldiers for a regime that sees them as disposable. In their blind rage against anything outside their bubble, they fail to see that they are being used to forward the very agendas they believe they are resisting.


As frustrating and dangerous as these misguided individuals may be, I can’t help but feel a sense of compassion for them. Having once been a “far-left progressive,” I understand that beneath their hostility and blind obedience lies a genuine desire to do good. They want to be part of something meaningful, to reconnect with others, to rediscover a deeper purpose. What they don’t realize is that their compassion has been weaponized against them. Like master puppeteers, those in power manipulate their emotions, tugging relentlessly at their heartstrings until their hearts beat only to the rhythm of propaganda.


At the core of this social madness—even the hatred—is love. Yes, love. Humans are naturally empathetic, wired to care for one another. The ruling elite understand that by hijacking this innate compassion, they can direct even the most intelligent individuals to act against their own interests.


The antidote to cognitive manipulation is meaning and purpose.


A person who is deeply rooted in their own higher calling is far less susceptible to mass psychological control. However, modern society is deliberately structured to strip individuals of these protective anchors. Traditional practices that once provided guidance and stability are increasingly devalued, ridiculed, or replaced with shallow, fleeting distractions.


A society that lacks a strong moral and philosophical foundation creates individuals who are lost, disconnected, and perpetually searching for something to fill the void. And that’s exactly the kind of population most vulnerable to mass manipulation.


When people no longer find meaning in faith, family, community, or self-mastery, they become desperate for a substitute. The ruling elite understand this well—they provide pre-packaged causes, manufactured moral crusades, and empty ideological movements designed not to empower, but to lure and control.


A person who lacks purpose will grasp at anything that offers a sense of significance, even if it means surrendering their ability to think critically. This is why so many intelligent people fall for propaganda—they aren't searching for truth; they are searching for belonging.


The COVID lockdowns provided a perfect testing ground. The media hammered a single, relentless message: wearing a mask meant you were good, intelligent, and compassionate, while refusing to wear one meant you were selfish, ignorant, and even murderous. Suddenly, a mere piece of cloth became more than a precaution—it became a symbol of virtue. By putting on a mask, an ordinary person could feel righteous, purposeful, and, most importantly, connected to a tribe.


The strategy was simple: create a moral binary so rigid that people would cling to it desperately, because without it, they would feel empty and alone. And that’s the key—these people are not thinking; they are feeling. They are searching for meaning in a world carefully engineered to deprive them of it. And until they wake up to the forces pulling their strings, they will continue to dance to a tune that was never their own.


True progress is only possible when individuals engage with different perspectives, challenge their own biases, and remain open to uncomfortable truths. In a world where information is more accessible than ever, it is crucial to question, analyze, and think critically—regardless of political or ideological alignment.


Those who cultivate their own sense of purpose—through faith, self-discipline, strong relationships, and independent thought—become immune to manipulation. They do not need the approval of the crowd, nor do they seek validation from the latest ideological trend. They stand firm in a world that demands they kneel.


Reclaiming meaning is the ultimate act of resistance!
 
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