Maybe the latest reports of a "mysterious disease" coming out of the Congo - where supposedly some kids were eating bats and picked up a deadly virus? Sounds vaguely familiar!!!!I am intrigued as well…. Who is bat lady?
It’s easy to say this … but they are so yummy!Don't eat bats 😤
More worried about that nut telling parents they’re going to cause ADD by vaccinating their kids for measles. Much better for them to have encephalopathy and go blind.Maybe time to invest in Pfizer, etc?
He's got a doctor from somewhere who backed his theories though. She's got an honorary doctorate from an unaccreditated online university, but by God she's counting it.More worried about that nut telling parents they’re going to cause ADD by vaccinating their kids for measles. Much better for them to have encephalopathy and go blind.
More worried about that nut telling parents they’re going to cause ADD by vaccinating their kids for measles. Much better for them to have encephalopathy and go blind.
I can’t tell if this is serious?The risks of the vaccine are way more than the risks of the measles. Only kids who die from measles nowadays are likely already severely compromised. They die with measles, not from measels. Kind of like another virus we dealt with recently.
are you just making this science up again?More worried about that nut telling parents they’re going to cause ADD by vaccinating their kids for measles. Much better for them to have encephalopathy and go blind.
You had me at COVID and lost me at measles.The risks of the vaccine are way more than the risks of the measles. Only kids who die from measles nowadays are likely already severely compromised. They die with measles, not from measels. Kind of like another virus we dealt with recently.
I can’t tell if this is serious?
Ask the Samoan government about wether all the 82 kids that died were “severely compromised”. Or the parents of the kid that died in Texas.The risks of the vaccine are way more than the risks of the measles. Only kids who die from measles nowadays are likely already severely compromised. They die with measles, not from measels. Kind of like another virus we dealt with recently.
Lol. The WHO says 800,000 people worldwide died from measles in 2000. 100,000+ died in 2023. Let me guess, they were gonna die that year anyway? I love how it used to be the dirty hippies in Seattle who wouldn't vaccinate. Now, after covid, it's the dirty hippies and the far right wing nuts. I'm constantly amazed at how people re-write history. There is a reason these vaccines were created. Same reason they are working on one for poultry.Completely.
Ask yourself why getting measles was the funny plot of a Brady Bunch episode in the 70s and now is treated like the Black Death?
Let's hope RFKJr actually gets some research out that wasn't funded by the pharmaceutical companies about this and the other vaccines.
Completely.
Ask yourself why getting measles was the funny plot of a Brady Bunch episode in the 70s and now is treated like the Black Death?
Let's hope RFKJr actually gets some research out that wasn't funded by the pharmaceutical companies about this and the other vaccines.
This is next level crazy…. Like tinfoil hat crazy…..Completely.
Ask yourself why getting measles was the funny plot of a Brady Bunch episode in the 70s and now is treated like the Black Death?
Let's hope RFKJr actually gets some research out that wasn't funded by the pharmaceutical companies about this and the other vaccines.
You want to brow beat folks on what can be complicated scientific debate about vaccines (I believe in vaccinating)? How about start with a simple topic like the differences between male and female? Go ahead science guy, let 'er rip.Lol. The WHO says 800,000 people worldwide died from measles in 2000. 100,000+ died in 2023. Let me guess, they were gonna die that year anyway? I love how it used to be the dirty hippies in Seattle who wouldn't vaccinate. Now, after covid, it's the dirty hippies and the far right wing nuts. I'm constantly amazed at how people re-write history. There is a reason these vaccines were created. Same reason they are working on one for poultry.
First off, vaccines aren’t a complicated scientific debate, they’re one of the most well-researched, evidence-backed medical interventions in history. The only reason it seems like a debate is because political grifters and conspiracy theorists muddy the waters with bad-faith arguments and cherry-picked nonsense. (Using a 70s sitcom as "proof" that measles isn’t serious is a perfect example.)You want to brow beat folks on what can be complicated scientific debate about vaccines (I believe in vaccinating)? How about start with a simple topic like the differences between male and female? Go ahead science guy, let 'er rip.
I haven’t seen many take umbrage with the efficacy of these well researched vaccinesFirst off, vaccines aren’t a complicated scientific debate, they’re one of the most well-researched, evidence-backed medical interventions in history. The only reason it seems like a debate is because political grifters and conspiracy theorists muddy the waters with bad-faith arguments and cherry-picked nonsense. (Using a 70s sitcom as "proof" that measles isn’t serious is a perfect example.)
Second, conflating immunology with culture war talking points is just lazy. One is based on biomedical science, statistics, and decades of global research, while the other is a sociopolitical hot button that has nothing to do with pathogens, immune responses, or epidemiology. Pretending they’re equivalent is like saying, “You want to discuss climate science? First, tell me what color a banana is.”
This is a textbook example of derailing a legitimate discussion with irrelevant bait. If someone doesn’t understand vaccines, throwing a culture war distraction into the mix won’t lend credibility to their argument. #ripped
I know where to find tin foil if there's a shortage!The risks of the vaccine are way more than the risks of the measles. Only kids who die from measles nowadays are likely already severely compromised. They die with measles, not from measels. Kind of like another virus we dealt with recently.
I know where to find tin foil if there's a shortage!
The idea that measles only harms the severely compromised is flat-out wrong. It can cause blindness, encephalitis, pneumonia, and death, even in healthy kids. Before vaccines, hundreds of thousands died annually, and outbreaks today still hospitalize and kill.
Claiming the vaccine is riskier than measles is like saying seatbelts are riskier than car crashes. The measles vaccine’s risks? Mild soreness and an ultra-rare allergic reaction. The risks of measles? Brain damage, lifelong complications, and death.
This is the paradox of success, vaccines worked so well that people now have the luxury of forgetting how deadly these diseases actually were.
sorry to hear about your kidsI would think the slur of being a "conspiracy theorist" would have died given that the conspiracy theorists were right just about everything when it came to Covid. I'm also hoping there is going to be a lot more conspiracy theories proven right with the transparency the Trump Administration has promised.
I know that I won't convince anyone that the pharmaceutical companies don't have our best interest at heart when it comes to vaccines if the last 4 years and the Covid shot debacle didn't convince you, but I'm a glutton for punishment, so here it goes:
I have two vaccine injured kids. Because of that, I did a lot of research on vaccines and the lack of standard, placebo double blind studies that have been done on them. I'm always amazed at the fact that pharmaceutical companies are the most fined companies in history and have provably put out drugs that they knew were going to cause injury and death but calculated that the money they would make would exceed any fines they would have to pay, so they went ahead and rolled out the drug. They have literally killed thousands of people. And those were with drugs that did go through blind placebo-based testing. However, people somehow think that they found Jesus when it comes to the products that make them the most, that they don't have to do placebo testing on, that the government mandates (so they don't have to market them), and that they have liability protection for.
The "conspiracy theory" and "tinfoil hat" insults are often just a good way to dismiss someone rather than doing the research yourself. To my shame, I did the same thing to my wife's OBGYN when he told us we really needed to research vaccines before we gave them to our kids. Thankfully, many prominent doctors who were right about Covid but mercilessly branded as "quacks", taken before medical boards, and had their licenses threatened or even revoked were awakened and finally did their own research into the childhood vaccine schedule and came to the conclusion that none of the vaccines on the current schedule went through the same rigorous testing that is required of all other pharmaceutical drugs.
So, that's my stance. Call me a kook, quack, or conspiracy theorist all you want, but I was totally unsurprised about everything that came to light about the pharma companies and how they do vaccine safety testing that came out during Covid because I had been dealing with it for 10 years by that time.
I’m so sorry to hear about your kids.I would think the slur of being a "conspiracy theorist" would have died given that the conspiracy theorists were right just about everything when it came to Covid. I'm also hoping there is going to be a lot more conspiracy theories proven right with the transparency the Trump Administration has promised.
I know that I won't convince anyone that the pharmaceutical companies don't have our best interest at heart when it comes to vaccines if the last 4 years and the Covid shot debacle didn't convince you, but I'm a glutton for punishment, so here it goes:
I have two vaccine injured kids. Because of that, I did a lot of research on vaccines and the lack of standard, placebo double blind studies that have been done on them. I'm always amazed at the fact that pharmaceutical companies are the most fined companies in history and have provably put out drugs that they knew were going to cause injury and death but calculated that the money they would make would exceed any fines they would have to pay, so they went ahead and rolled out the drug. They have literally killed thousands of people. And those were with drugs that did go through blind placebo-based testing. However, people somehow think that they found Jesus when it comes to the products that make them the most, that they don't have to do placebo testing on, that the government mandates (so they don't have to market them), and that they have liability protection for.
The "conspiracy theory" and "tinfoil hat" insults are often just a good way to dismiss someone rather than doing the research yourself. To my shame, I did the same thing to my wife's OBGYN when he told us we really needed to research vaccines before we gave them to our kids. Thankfully, many prominent doctors who were right about Covid but mercilessly branded as "quacks", taken before medical boards, and had their licenses threatened or even revoked were awakened and finally did their own research into the childhood vaccine schedule and came to the conclusion that none of the vaccines on the current schedule went through the same rigorous testing that is required of all other pharmaceutical drugs.
So, that's my stance. Call me a kook, quack, or conspiracy theorist all you want, but I was totally unsurprised about everything that came to light about the pharma companies and how they do vaccine safety testing that came out during Covid because I had been dealing with it for 10 years by that time.
You don't know the difference between between a male and female?You want to brow beat folks on what can be complicated scientific debate about vaccines (I believe in vaccinating)? How about start with a simple topic like the differences between male and female? Go ahead science guy, let 'er rip.
Reasonable positionI bet everyone my age (72) had the measles. Never heard of people dying from them. If someone we knew had mumps, then all the boys that hadn’t had mumps were brought over and exposed so they would get mumps. Then vaccines were created and we didn’t do any of that with my kids. Polio was bad when I was a kid. It’s not a thing now. Vaccines have an important place. BUT, it would not surprise me if there are bad side effects of the vaccines that affect some people. Don’t think there will ever be all positive results for all people.