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Something that comes to mind, the schools that don't have football teams are the big winners in the new pay players rules. I think the limit is $20.5 million or something like that for all athletes to be directly paid from athletic funds. If you don't have a football team, you can devote most of that to basketball. Are there some different limits if you don't have a football team?
Wealthy private schools like Loyola Marymount, Gonzaga, Creighton, Marquette, and Seton Hall can really take advantage.
The big east won’t have the same as the big or Sec to spend because of the media contacts. There cap will like be around 10 but they can give to majority to BB so yes they will have an advantage
All it takes is one big alumni donating. If you had 20 million, you could have an entire team of 2nd round draft picks, or a lottery pick and 6 2nd rounders for the same as they would be making in the NBA, having to play 1/3 the games.
So was Frankie Fidler (Michigan State), and Grant Nelson (Alabama), and Zeke Mayo (Kansas). So it's ridiculous to think the Summit League Player of the Year isn't good enough for our program.
It may not be the case every year. I haven’t seen the guy play but he must have some talent.
I would rather go after stars from the mid majors rather than do what we did last year which was go after players(Ulis, Worster, Berke, Griffiths, Essegian, and Meah) that were reserves for big ten teams. Andrew Morgan was a good example of a player from North Dakota State who came in and gave us some good minutes off the bench. He was never going to be a starter and it would be foolish to think he would be. You need stars from those leagues.
So how do you explain Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, Michigan, Oregon, Florida, Miami, Houston and TTech? Could also throw in there If Oklahoma and Texas.
Schools without football programs are currently completely eliminated from the NCAA tournament. Not one has made the sweet sixteen. Your theory is crap and completely false. You either make the commitment to fund both of your top revenue sports or you be a bitch and falsely accept you can’t fund both. Which has been our M.O. forever.
I could halfway deal with it if we were actually good at football. But this current path is a complete failure when it comes to how we spend our NIL money.
Also Huskers were coming off 7,7, and 10 win seasons when he was transferring why would that be attractive?
Do you really think those teams you named are going to abide by any NCAA NIL salary caps IF they get enacted. Some of those schools have almost unlimited NiL money now. Jerry Jones funds one. CEOs of major publicly traded companies fund another. That’s just their top donors. Forget about the puny energy exec money.
That’s not the point we were discussing whatsoever. I was addressing his assertion that schools without a football program have a financial advantage (in basketball) over schools with football programs. I was making the point that the exact opposite is true. Those who can profit greatly from football can use that extra revenue to support their number 2 revenue sport, basketball.
On your note, a totally different topic… We are being outspent, period. And schools with rich donor pockets will find a way to get the money to the players they think will make their favorite college team better. I’m sure they’d prefer to do it legally, but they’ll do it regardless. Same as it ever was…
We (Nebraska) are a small state with less billionaires than most states and our donors are stupid and over prioritize women’s volleyball. We have a smaller NIL pool of $ than most states and our dumbass donors are throwing money at college volleyball like it’s strip club, while our number 2 revenue sport has NEVER won an NCAA tournament game. Our NIL priorities and strategy has been huge embarrassing failure, total and complete failure.
But hey, rich old farm widows are gonna spend their money like they didn’t do anything to make it. Cause they didn’t…
We're talking about the future once the new rules are in effect. Not this season where you can still launder booster money to players.
Exactly. He was the exact type of player that thrives under Greg McDermott. Had he come to Lincoln he would not have flourished quite the same.
Schools like Gonzaga and most of the Big East conference will NEVER have an economic advantage over the rest of the P5 that profits from football TV contracts. It’s all about how you spend your money. Most P5 schools (with a successful football program) will have more money to spend on basketball, if they choose to spend it that way.
You did far less to make it, so why do you get to decide how they should spend it? You wouldnt last on a farm
You make some decent points about our need to spend more if we want better basketball results. I say all the money should go to football..but I wouldnt blame people for earmarking basketball.
But you consistently come off as a smug, unhappy and arrogant prick who sees no fault in telling other people how to spend their money and taking it personally that they dont spend their money the way you want to spend it. Maybe you should make some and do with it what you will while minding your own business.
I’m not making anyone’s decisions as to how they spend their money, and I have no way of making anyone spend their money differently. (other than voicing my opinion on the matter) Your assertions are beyond ridiculous. But I am entitled to the opinion they (big donors) spend too much money on volleyball (NIL wise) and not enough on basketball players. I’ve had this opinion for years. That’s my opinion, deal with it. Not like Mertle who inherited $30 million is gonna read this or give a shit what I think? Lol They’re gonna spend their money the way they want and I’m gonna have the opinion I want. You saying I’m not allowed to express that opinion?
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You can express your opinion. But it takes a smug, unhappy and arrogant prick to make fun of widows and be all upset and mad because people dont spend their money the way you think they should, as though its their job to do your bidding for you. How dare they support what they like!
Feel free to keep sharing your opinion, I will as well.
🤣 Make fun of widows 🤣😂🤣😂 I did nothing of the sorts. If you think saying they donate too much of their money to volleyball players is making fun of them you have to be the most sensitive snowflake out there. And the bidding is not for me you ignorant asshole. It’s for the benefit of Nebraska and the University. A successful basketball program will make five times the revenue as volleyball, but our donors prioritize volleyball. (Which is dumb for the reasons I stated) You think my opinion is just because I like basketball more than women’s volleyball? It’s the fiscally smart thing to do for our athletic department and university.
You are unfortunately so wrapped up in your feelings and wanting to hate on everything I say you can’t see the logic in my stance. And yes, you call me a smug prick, I’m gonna call you an ignorant snowflake. And rightfully so. You can’t even see why I have such an opinion, all you can do is clutch your pearls fein outrage cause I think our donors spend too much on volleyball players. Get a grip man…
You are flying off the handle about how other people spend heir money and Im the snowflake?
Why even make the farm widows comment? Why are you so concerned with other peoples spending and think you are entitled to know better than them what to do with their property? How about you donate? Perhaps some self reflection is in order.
Smug, arrogant prick. Carry on proving it
You’re obviously a farmer and/or closely connected to someone who farms. I have nothing against farmers, I love farmers. Get out of your feelings for a minute. It’s ok to criticize how some elderly donors spend their money. You’re gonna be ok man…
Probably won’t be much news until after the waste of time exhibition tournament. While other teams decline an invite NU pounds there chest about post season play.
To be fair, Nebraska will still be playing after 64 teams already ended their season in the NCAA tournament so there is that. One of the last standing 😆
But they won’t. They’ll spend 80% of their allotted dollars on football. Zag and Villanova will have more money to spend on basketball than a P5 school.
OK, lots of numbers for other schools and Nebraska being thrown around along with percents of whatever, I have no idea. I am going to assume if there were actual numbers out there for teams, sports and individual players, we would have seen it by now. In reality, a lot is just pure speculation.
Please show me the numbers, if they exist. If we pay “too much” for VB players, what is that number at NE and other schools?
Please show me the numbers, if they exist. If we pay “too much” for VB players, what is that number at NE and other schools?
Um yeah, that’s great and all, but I think you’re missing the very real possibility that nothing will change with NIL once we go to revenue sharing. There’s already lawsuits and bills on the state level to protect a players ability to collect private money and not disclose it publicly. I’m not a huge fan of the way things are going but these state measures will likely pass.
Jeremy Pruitt sues NCAA for $100 million
nebraska.forums.rivals.com
And at that point the 21 million in revenue sharing becomes a gift to schools without football programs to help them keep up. The teams with the biggest richest fanbases will dominate college sports going forward. It’s just going to get more difficult for schools like Gonzaga, Butler, Marquette and yes Creighton to keep up with big boys.
It’s logic brother. I don’t have hard numbers cause players aren’t required to disclose NIL amounts. But I see far more volleyball girls doing adds and promotions. I see none for basketball. And lastly here’s the path of logic that leads me to that conclusion. (our donors over prioritize volleyball)
1. We know we spend A TON on football. Which is all fine and good. Just wish it worked and we were good. It’s the #1 revenue sport though and we should spend the most on football.
2. Basketball is the #2 revenue sport. We’re terrible and nobody can really say how our spending and NIL stacks up. Which isn’t a good sign, even if athletes don’t have to disclose, the fact we don’t hear any rumors about big contracts and we don’t see any basketball players in local commercials or promotions? Not a good sign. We had the league’s leading scorer and we have no idea if he made $100,000 this year or a six pack soda and a gift card to the Cheesecake Factory? Definitely wasn’t in any commercials.
3. We spend more than just anyone on volleyball. All our girls are in adds and have known or rumored NIL deals. Very lucrative deals from everything I’ve heard.
4. Most agree we need to spend more money to get better basketball players.
5. People keep telling we can’t afford to pay more NIL money for basketball because Nebraska’s donor pool just isn’t big enough.
So… if all of that is true. And we know the first 3 are for sure true, and the last two are likely true but difficult to prove numbers wise. But if all those points are true what is the most obvious conclusion? Why can’t we afford to pay more for quality basketball players? What is our smaller more limited pool of big donors doing differently than all these other “football schools” that have elite basketball programs?
The answer is blatantly obvious if you look at the situation objectively. Our donors spend too much on girls volleyball and not enough on basketball. And if we were spending enough on basketball the results would be there. You can’t make the NCAA tournament once every 10 years (that’s about our average) and say you’re doing enough. If those are your results you’re obviously not doing enough.
Edit: Sorry, I know that was long but I wanted to be thorough in why I have come to that conclusion.
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Unlike you, I dont have to be, or be related to someone in order to have decency toward them.
It seems you are fine criticizing others but cant handle it when someone criticizes you. You take how other people donate personally, as if they owe you something.
Get out of your entitlement for a moment…or keep railing on people about how to spend their money and somehow think that doesnt make you a giant dbag….
I've even seen that softball player chick (Jordy?) on local commercials.....but haven't seen Brice Williams on any, even though he was first team all-Big Ten.
I don't know about all of this shit, I just hope we land two top-flight transfers. I'm not greedy.
I don’t take it personally, how people donate their money, just cause I have an opinion on it doesn’t mean “I take it personally” 🤣 WTF is that? So every opinion I post means “I take it personally”? I’ve posted it thousands of opinions, as have you. This is just one of them. You’re the one who sounds offended and butthurt that I think our donors don’t spend their money wisely.
You were the 1st one to start slinging insults like a jilted school girl. I simply voiced my opinion on a matter. I didn’t ask you to come obsessively cry about it. I had no problem with you until started this shit. Nobody reading this, not even you, will think I’m the one taking this conversation personally.
So, not trying to be a dick. (some people ITT have personal issues with me 😉) What, if anything, makes you believe that will happen? Or is your “hope” more like… “I hope I win the lottery.” ?
