I thought there were board rules about name calling? Seems at least one guy on here gets to do whatever he wants tonight.
Banker quote....sheeesh
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Maybe I'm not understanding you here but what phantom DL on our team were we supposed to trot out there that was able to hold the edge with a reckless abandon in the run game to rush the passer like Von Miller on third down??
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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They just should be able to coach what they have! Just like is expected of all the other positions.
Yeah, no, I get that part. Where we differ, as I see it, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you think that our DL has talent that isn't being utilized. The DTs are young and improved in 2016 from where they started. The DE position is very lacking in talent and has been for a number of seasons prior to this staff. I'm exactly extolling the virtues of any one coach in particular but I also don't judge our DL coach on one season in charge of a bad depth chart. Keep in mind that Carl and Bo were once considered DL gurus for coaching Suh. They weren't exactly working with chopped liver to begin with and he went from being a pushover to the best player in CFB after a few seasons, it wasn't overnight and the guy had a very high ceiling. I know that we don't have anyone with that ceiling along our front four depth chart.
I think my analogy was missed on this.
In no way, shape, or form, did I say our guys are as good as bama players.
My post was meant to point out that you can't compare player A on team B to player C on team D. Everything is different. Head coaching, position coaching, film room, practice, S&C, nutrition, scheme, level of competition, culture, etc.
No way to say player A would start on player C's team because he's not on that team and isn't in that system.
After watching this team from the first game on, one would have to be pretty stupid to expect more than 9 wins out of them. We've been pushed around by just about everybody including Wyoming for a half. We just don't have the horses in the trenches. We've got the skill guys on both sides with a limited QB but man our lines are thin.
UN just had their most successful season in like 15 yrs. why would you want tonget rid of him ?
Standards? this is the best season in over a decade and a half.
No team wins championships without great line play. This is where we have missed the boat.
Don't scouts do that literally every day for every sport? They compare players. Now most people aren't professional scouts but many people have an eye for strength speed and general athleticism .
Back to the OP. I didn't take Banker's comment to mean they must have real hard practices (much harder than ours). I took it to mean when they practice against each other both lines are equally matched and physical, it is a bloodbath. I didn't see anything wrong with the comment.
Unless this is sarcasm...
NU will finish the regular season unranked
From 2006-2012 NU played in 4 of 7 conference title games, one of the 3 years NU didn't NU missed out on the tie-breaker.
In 2010 and 2012 NU won 10 games in the regular season before losing conference title games and bowl games.
NU beat 2 teams this year that have a winning record, 3 of the wins come against teams that must win tomorrow to make bowls and finish .500.
Riley is 5-8 against teams with a winning record and 10-2 against teams at or below .500.
In other words his extensive body of work at Oregon State is being repeated at Nebraska.
Next year NU plays
@ Oregon
Wisconsin
Ohio State
@Minnesota
@Penn State
Iowa
Who feels comfortable today saying NU will win more than 2 of those games? Looking at 7 or 8 wins in year 3 IMO, and it's not like Riley is learning on the job here with upside. His energy will only decline as he and his staff ages.
If Banker thinks Iowa's practice are physical then may be he and the other coaches need to sit down and talk about bringing physicality to NE practices.
B12? LOL . this aint the Big 12 anymore.
Why do.some of you feel like you have to read a resume every conversation ? you seem like this guy
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Hope he improves
Playing at Tulane he had a worse completion percentage than Tommy, lower QB Rating and a 23/21 TD to INT ratio. I'm sure that will translate well to the Big Ten.
I think scouting pro sports is more of a sure thing than college sports.
We can ask Texas, Georgia, LSU, Notre Dame, Tennessee, etc. how those loaded recruiting classes are working out for them.
Georgia canned their coach last year and is even worse this year, LSU canned their coach before the year finished, Texas is on the verge of canning Strong, Tennessee was a "lock" for the SEC ccg at the start of the year, USC was on the verge of firing their coach a month ago and Notre Dame is a hot mess.
Did all the talent scouts and recruiting experts just happen to whiff on every recruit from all those schools for the last 4 years, or is there more at play, such as coaching and the way those coaches approach running those programs?
Look at the difference at LSU since they showed Les the door. That LSU offense looked slow, soft and virtually helpless. They have since put up 35 points or more in 5 of their last 7 games. Bama shut them down and they shot themselves in the foot repeatedly against Florida, but otherwise, huge turn around.
The level of competition that LSU has played has varied enormously and largely explains the difference in their offensive output from week to week. They jumped the gun firing Miles and I hope they get stuck with Orgeron.
Correct. This was THE YEAR for Riley to get us into the B1G title game and be competitive. The team failed and has no chance of accomplishing this goal next year. We're backsliding again.
You guys shoulda dun what I did, turned off the TV after Iowa made it 20-3 and go partake in your favorite hobby. While all of you guys were miserable watching that game, I was having the time of my life riding my bike. It was awesome.
You're the brain surgeon that brought up the last 15 years. Not Nebraska fans.
I think this nails it. I am not a Banker fan but let's not just make shit up
You may agree with his opinion, but it doesn't make it correct. I will go out on a limb and say we beat Oregon, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa in 2017, at the minimum. But, it's worthless for anyone to predict 2017 in November 2016.
This wasn't "the year" for Riley to make it to Indianapolis. It could have been a year to make it, just like any other year in Lincoln.
Some of you people are going to be surprised what an actual QB will allow us to do. I'll enjoy this off-season while a few of you still live in misery and fantasy land.
I hope you are right about us being better next year due to QB upgrade. Because right now I am one of those fans in misery land. And that is because there was a lot more wrong with our team yesterday than just our QB. A lot
There was more wrong, to an extent. All one has to do is key in on Stanley Morgan and watch his exchange with our senior, 4-year starter, non-captain QB. If that doesn't help, there's other game film available to see the exact same poor leadership. Finger pointing, yelling, discouraging body language, disrespectful, etc. Two years worth.
We'll see in 2017 what a competent QB can do in this offense. And if the QB play is poor once again, there's nobody to blame but Mike Riley and Danny Langsdorf. Their guys will be under center.
Not really. The QB issues infected this team. The defense played very tight early in the game. They were fearful of any mistakes because they knew that their margin for error was slim because of the QB. When it was 26-10, the defense got consecutive three and outs. The offense didn't return the favor and from there things fell apart. The woes at QB mentally exhausted the team. It doesn't excuse mistakes on defense but imagine a QB who puts together a drive instead three and out YOLO bombs.
You raise a really good point. I had noticed Tommy's disrespect to his receivers before but thought it was just me. I remember on our last TD drive in the Oregon game when he threw to Carter on third down. Not a great pass but catchable. Carter dropped it and, as I am sure you remember crumpled to the turf hurt. All Tommy could do was wave his arms in disgust even as Carter lay there.
I do not disagree with the points you and Jaw are making and I hope you are right. I am on the cliff edge today. Ha. That game really pissed me off. But I still think there was also something seriously wrong with our defense. Sometimes you find yourself in a low scoring defensive struggle. Sure our offense was stalling, but that is all the more reason for the defense to dig in and get stops. Think NU-OU, 2009. Our offense was wretched. Our defense sucked it up. Granted, we had Suh, but you get my point. Way too many busts allowing Iowa to go long distance to the house. Just like last year. Something very wrong there.
You act as though Suh wasn't a once in a lifetime difference maker and was the only leader. That defense had some alpha personalities and players. I mean this in the best way possible, but the 2016 defense doesn't have anyone close to that level. We don't have guys who win enough one on one battles to be able overcome.
Let me ask you this... If Riley and Company had Bama players at every position, do you think this year ends differently?
We compare coaches to each other all the time... But if the coaches don't have the players in place, it should shock no one that there are struggles from time to time. Give Riley Bama's players, or Ohio State's players, and I am almost positive this year ends differently...
