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The fat man at 2
They all deserved to be fired.
With some of them, there was a legitimate reason for firing them other than their won-loss record.Hind sight is 20/20 , but these University’s did not get the value the coach brought to the table. Interesting how many coaches were fired a year removed from their best season .
Agreed.With some of them, there was a legitimate reason for firing them other than their won-loss record.
The fat man at 2
Winning the Orange Bowl at Kansas should get you a lifetime contract
It WOULD have in the Pepper Rogers day but what from what I can remember didn’t his players said he tormented and belittled them his past years at KU..
He finished 5-7 his last year in Lawrence...
Kansas is the worst P5 football program all-time...
You’d be wrong.. all these teams have a worse all time percentage in football worse than KU..
Oregon St
Iowa St
Kansas St
Northwestern
Indiana
Wake Forest
Are you going by modern era? No one cares about 1910 football
All Time is All Time..
“ Kansas is the worst P-5 football program all-time” your quote..
Weren't Mike Leach and Mangino fired for allegedly mistreating players?
Weren't Mike Leach and Mangino fired for allegedly mistreating players?
Definitely a "stars aligned" season: they missed Oklahoma (11-3), Texas (10-3), and Texas Tech (9-4) in the inter-division rotation and played Okie State (7-6), Texas A&M (7-6), and Baylor (3-9).Mangino was basically an a-hole to everyone, he was essentially canned early in his career for abuse of players at a high school. At Kansas he committed NCAA violations, had an incident with a ref at his kids high school game, he was reprimanded for getting repeated campus parking tickets and treating those employees poorly. But ultimately he went from 5-0 in 2009 to 7 straight losses and his lack of winning combined with his rosy personality cost him his job.
Ultimately he only had 1 record above .500 in conference in his 8 years there. He had a fluke season in 2007 when the stars aligned but was mediocre other than that.
Mangino was basically an a-hole to everyone, he was essentially canned early in his career for abuse of players at a high school. At Kansas he committed NCAA violations, had an incident with a ref at his kids high school game, he was reprimanded for getting repeated campus parking tickets and treating those employees poorly. But ultimately he went from 5-0 in 2009 to 7 straight losses and his lack of winning combined with his rosy personality cost him his job.
Ultimately he only had 1 record above .500 in conference in his 8 years there. He had a fluke season in 2007 when the stars aligned but was mediocre other than that.
It was 3x - when is the last time KU had above .500 record over an 8 year span? Might have to go back 60+ years I would assume.
In addition to the soft South schedule, KU's opponents included NU (5-7) in Callahan's final year, Colorado (6-7), a K-State (5-7) team that Nebraska dropped 73 on, and Iowa State (3-9). Their only opponents that finished the year ranked were Missouri (a 36-28 loss) and Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl.Definitely a "stars aligned" season: they missed Oklahoma (11-3), Texas (10-3), and Texas Tech (9-4) in the inter-division rotation and played Okie State (7-6), Texas A&M (7-6), and Baylor (3-9).
Not their fault the Big 12 gave them that rotation when the conference was formed in 1996.
that OSU loss at home was the start of all the suffering we've endured ever since.In addition to the soft South schedule, KU's opponents included NU (5-7) in Callahan's final year, Colorado (6-7), a K-State (5-7) team that Nebraska dropped 73 on, and Iowa State (3-9). Their only opponents that finished the year ranked were Missouri (a 36-28 loss) and Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl.
The pathetic nature of the North in 2007 only underscored how bad Callahan's final year was, considering we also got to play Texas A&M and Oklahoma State, in addition to Texas. It wouldn't have taken much of a defense for Nebraska to have won at least a couple more games and saved Callahan's job.
It was a shock how completely uncompetitive we were. Even in blowout losses like CU in 2001 and K-State in 2002 and 2003, it felt like the guys were working hard. There appeared to be absolutely no one giving a sh*t in that OSU game.that OSU loss at home was the start of all the suffering we've endured ever since.
KU won a BCS bowl with Mangino....
Don't think we can over state how impressive that is at KU.
But they also lost to Mizzou and didn’t get to play for the Big 12 CCG..
Remember Mizzou blowing out Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl finishing 12-2 losing to Oklahoma twice..
Good thing Nebraska has a program older than the last 5 years.Kansas is the worst P5 football program all-time...
KU sucks now but K-State was easily the worst job in the Big 8 before Snyder.Are you going by modern era? No one cares about 1910 football
That KU team was very good. They had a tough, hard nosed defense with NFL talent, and great skill players (Reesing, Sharp, mcAnderson, Kerry Meier and Dez Briscoe.
They were legit.
Yeah, Ron Prince was pretty awful - his tenure did have two high points 1) stealing Josh Freeman away from us and 2) beating a top 10 Texas team two years in a rowMangino benefited from Bill Snyder's retirement. When he came back and Mangino was canned a year later, the slate ended 4-1 Snyder.
But Mangino did beat Ron Prince three times. Prince was fired on the way home after the third loss. Bill returned. We can thank Mangino for that outcome.
Somebody should do an article on the best firings. Prince would have to be in the top tier.