Are we really "scrambling" for recruits now?

[jflores]

You know HTO, if you know "Everything" how many Plan "A" DB's do we have?

In my understanding of football it is nice to have "A" guys at every position, not just a few. How about DE or TE... We have all our plan A guys there.

I get that we have plenty of great recruits in the class. I am not okay with "Some" I think we pay are coach enough to fill out a complete class with plan "A" guys. Unless he fills the holes at DE, TE and DB with a few blue chips we will continue to always be good in one aspect of the game and not so much in another.

So does it make any sense now?

Before you spout off about how DB's aren't a position of need tell that to the teams that are actually relevant that sign blue chip after blue chip even though they don't need them.

I'd maybe not stake out that position.

You were the guy that 48-72 hours ago were putting your reputation on the line for Darnay Holmes. Over a registry and your gut.

A guy who was basically a silent commit for every school he ever considered...except us.

 

[big red22]

I'd maybe not stake out that position.

You were the guy that 48-72 hours ago were putting your reputation on the line for Darnay Holmes. Over a registry and your gut.

A guy who was basically a silent commit for every school he ever considered...except us.

I felt like he was coming here, because we struck out on every other DB so far! I thought maybe we got him and that is why the others went elsewhere. Obviously I was wrong, and I hate the fact that I was, because it looks bad on this staff if they don't land one of these DB's. Hell they hired Donte Williams to help out with a few of them.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I felt like he was coming here, because we struck out on every other DB so far! I thought maybe we got him and that is why the others went elsewhere.

I feel for you though bigred22. The trouble with this board is that all posts are public and permanent! So if you make a whopper of a bad prediction it is going to cling to you like a bad stink for a long time.... Trust me when I tell you I have a lot of experience in this department.....

 

[jflores]

I felt like he was coming here, because we struck out on every other DB so far! I thought maybe we got him and that is why the others went elsewhere. Obviously I was wrong, and I hate the fact that I was, because it looks bad on this staff if they don't land one of these DB's. Hell they hired Donte Williams to help out with a few of them.

Well we are "going after" quite a few DB's for not all that many slots. The kid committing to Utah, and Graham to UO, weren't by far the majority of them, and not nearly "all" of them.

 

[jflores]

I feel for you though bigred22. The trouble with this board is that all posts are public and permanent! So if you make a whopper of a bad prediction it is going to cling to you like a bad stink for a long time.... Trust me when I tell you I have a lot of experience in this department.....

Me as well

 

[jlb321]

I like the kids we have committed. I am interested in how we close out the class. We have some holes to fill. For me personally I judge recruits based on their offer sheets. I would much rather have a 3* with offers from Ohio st, Michigan and Clemson than a 4* holding offers from Indiana northwestern and Illinois.

There are very few if any recruits with reasonable talent that are completely off the radar. If a kid can play he, for the most part, has been evaluated by division 1 and power 5 schools. I am skeptical of a recruit that has few if any quality offers. Doesn't mean that they won't or can't develop but the percentages are most certainly lower.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Well we are "going after" quite a few DB's for not all that many slots. The kid committing to Utah, and Graham to UO, weren't by far the majority of them, and not nearly "all" of them.

There are two positions that our recruiting puzzles me about. DB and running back. But rather than engaging in wild and unfounded speculation as I usually do, perhaps somebody who actually knows something about the situation can enlighten us as to who is still on our board at those positions and what our chances are of landing them...

 

[big red22]

Well we are "going after" quite a few DB's for not all that many slots. The kid committing to Utah, and Graham to UO, weren't by far the majority of them, and not nearly "all" of them.

I get that...

They only have a few blue chips left... We gonna get any of them. I really hope that we do!

Lenoir = Oregon
Johnson = USC
Blades = Florida

Curl??? I don't think he is quite as high on the list, but maybe we consider him a "A" guy

 

[H.T.O.]

I agree that we landed a few "A" guys, but we missed on a huge percentage.

I'm talking about the recruits we lost to Utah, Oregon and Oregon St.

Were they not on our A list HTO

Every single person committed, except Bradley, were "A list" recruits to this staff. I'd venture to guess Bradley would have been if his academics were in order this past summer but that's just speculation on my part. Regardless, that's 14 of 15 current commits.

This staff isn't going to take a commitment from anyone prior to their senior season starting less they're an "A" list recruit. The same happened with Pelini & Callahan, although Pelini wasn't able to maintain it every year but that'll happen.

What you're talking about are what many consider "takes no matter what", regardless who is coaching here, it'll always be a challenge to land more than 1, 2 or 3 in every class. We landed 2 of them in the 2016 class, Lamar Jackson & Matt Farniok, while losing out on others Isaiah Simmons, etc.

I'm not too thrilled with what's going on with our recruiting at this moment, but I'm willing to wait it out 22 more days before judging. I will say, there's a couple changes happening which gives additional belief coach Riley isn't settling.

 

[jflores]

There are two positions that our recruiting puzzles me about. DB and running back. But rather than engaging in wild and unfounded speculation as I usually do, perhaps somebody who actually knows something about the situation can enlighten us as to who is still on our board at those positions and what our chances are of landing them...

The good news is we don't need many. Maybe 1-2.

 

[jflores]

I get that...

They only have a few blue chips left... We gonna get any of them. I really hope that we do!

Lenoir = Oregon
Johnson = USC
Blades = Florida

Curl??? I don't think he is quite as high on the list, but maybe we consider him a "A" guy

Curl is the only safety on that list, technically. Cotton was the other one we were looking at.

Johnson and Lenoir remain uncommitted ATT.

 

[big red22]

Every single person committed, except Bradley, were "A list" recruits to this staff. I'd venture to guess Bradley would have been if his academics were in order this past summer but that's just speculation on my part. Regardless, that's 14 of 15 current commits.

This staff isn't going to take a commitment from anyone prior to their senior season starting less they're an "A" list recruit. The same happened with Pelini & Callahan, although Pelini wasn't able to maintain it every year but that'll happen.

What you're talking about are what many consider "takes no matter what", regardless who is coaching here, it'll always be a challenge to land more than 1, 2 or 3 in every class. We landed 2 of them in the 2016 class, Lamar Jackson & Matt Farniok, while losing out on others Isaiah Simmons, etc.

I'm not too thrilled with what's going on with our recruiting at this moment, but I'm willing to wait it out 22 more days before judging. I will say, there's a couple changes happening which gives additional belief coach Riley isn't settling.

I have said multiple times I will not Judge this class until Februray

 

[jflores]

Every single person committed, except Bradley, were "A list" recruits to this staff. I'd venture to guess Bradley would have been if his academics were in order this past summer but that's just speculation on my part. Regardless, that's 14 of 15 current commits.

This staff isn't going to take a commitment from anyone prior to their senior season starting less they're an "A" list recruit. The same happened with Pelini & Callahan, although Pelini wasn't able to maintain it every year but that'll happen.

What you're talking about are what many consider "takes no matter what", regardless who is coaching here, it'll always be a challenge to land more than 1, 2 or 3 in every class. We landed 2 of them in the 2016 class, Lamar Jackson & Matt Farniok, while losing out on others Isaiah Simmons, etc.

I'm not too thrilled with what's going on with our recruiting at this moment, but I'm willing to wait it out 22 more days before judging. I will say, there's a couple changes happening which gives additional belief coach Riley isn't settling.

Can you enumerate on the changes? Fingers crossed you can.

 

[H.T.O.]

You know HTO, if you know "Everything"?

Aren't you the one that was pimping Darnay Holmes to Nebraska? You can believe what you want, call me out all you want, but my record on here speaks for itself.

You can either take it FWIW, which is my opinion based on many discussions I have with multiple people, or you can continue scouring the internet for who is registered at what school and speculate from there.

 

[big red22]

Aren't you the one that was pimping Darnay Holmes to Nebraska? You can believe what you want, call me out all you want, but my record on here speaks for itself.

You can either take it FWIW, which is my opinion based on many discussions I have with multiple people, or you can continue scouring the internet for who is registered at what school and speculate from there.

I also stated it was a gut feeling. I was wrong, I also don't claim to know inside info

 

[H.T.O.]

Can you enumerate on the changes? Fingers crossed you can.

Administrative & philosophy change.

How you been flores? Hope all is well with you!

I also stated it was a gut feeling. I was wrong, I also don't claim to know inside info

Neither do I.

 

[jflores]

Administrative & philosophy change.

How you been flores? Hope all is well with you!



Neither do I.

Doing pretty well. Looking to make a move back East temporarily then will be heading down to Texas. Looking forward to something a little different.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Administrative & philosophy change.

How you been flores? Hope all is well with you!



Neither do I.

Philosophy change? That is very interesting. Now you really have me curious....

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Doing pretty well. Looking to make a move back East temporarily then will be heading down to Texas. Looking forward to something a little different.

Back east? Where? I have been on the east coast since 1989 now. And the longer I am here the more I miss Nebraska.

 

[jflores]

Back east? Where? I have been on the east coast since 1989 now. And the longer I am here the more I miss Nebraska.

I left DC in 2010 for Omaha.

Maryland

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I left DC in 2010 for Omaha.

Maryland

My daughter went to school at Loyola in Baltimore. And I got my Masters at Mt. St. Mary's in Emmitsburg. I love Maryland. And I like visiting the District. Would not want to live there though...

 

[jflores]

My daughter went to school at Loyola in Baltimore. And I got my Masters at Mt. St. Mary's in Emmitsburg. I love Maryland. And I like visiting the District. Would not want to live there though...

I only have to be there a year.

 

[inWV]

We have 15 commits, but I can't remember the target class size. Was it 22 or so? Are we hoping to land 3-4 more targets and then a few other stragglers?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

We have 15 commits, but I can't remember the target class size. Was it 22 or so? Are we hoping to land 3-4 more targets and then a few other stragglers?

I think I read somewhere that we will take 22

 

[jflores]

We have 15 commits, but I can't remember the target class size. Was it 22 or so? Are we hoping to land 3-4 more targets and then a few other stragglers?

21 was the "floor". Although that was probably bumped to 22 since Alston left.

 

[nebcountry]

This isn't addressed to anyone in particular, but there's been some level headed discussion of "fishing" and some more despaired discussion of the same topic in the last 48 hours or so.

I would submit that we hold off on that phrase for the time being. We did not get Calvin but lets look at who's still on the big board:

Lewis 5*
Robinson 4*
Bowden 4*
Grimes 4*
Thompson 4*
Hawkins 3*
(perhaps Calvin 4*)
(Perhaps Davis 4*)

There are probably others, but it makes the point. That's a short light year away from the typical Pelini fishing expedition folks here are used to.

Leitao may well be substituted with either Robinson 4* or Radfal 3*

We added a 2* dev project in Walker, but that's to a position group where we already have our two OT's and missed on the cherry. Also not a move of desparation.

The only group, as I noted somewhere where we seem to be a bit thin is DE and we'll have to see what happens with Parella these last few weeks if Thomas and/or Beal are not in the cards. That may be the only true fishing expedition the staff goes on this year.

Hopefully I'm in the level-headed group. My thinking isn't an attack on a coaching staff, it's going forward how do we make sure we have quality depth. If we offer a recruit in March, continue recruiting him, and he commits to NU late in the cycle. Then he's a late commit, but definitely not a late offer.

I don't know how many recruits in it for the long haul that we land the remainder of this cycle. I'd guess a couple maybe, just a plain guess. If we land 7 or 8, it looks like the staff has found a recipe for success. And whatever I've been saying is pure garbage (it may be garbage anyway). If we land 0, 1, 2 , and have to go out with late offers, then we have room to improve our recruiting strategy. I just don't see success resulting from picking up the leftovers a week before signing day.

I'm more than happy to wait until signing to see how this class shapes up.

 

[H.T.O.]

Administrative & philosophy change

@jflores

 

[ThePowerOfRed]

@jflores

Hearing any names of replacements? Thanks in advance.

 

[H.T.O.]

Hearing any names of replacements? Thanks in advance.

Nope, and don't expect to either.

 

[jflores]

Nope, and don't expect to either.

Thanks for the heads up Tim.

Probably the best luck we will have is to watch Clouse closely. He broke DW and the rest is probably rumor mill.