Are we really "scrambling" for recruits now?

[inWV]

They took a shot at Sarrell, a might play as a true frosh guy. The Lincoln kid is a in the future type. But who knows. Spencer Long was a walkon, started as a sophomore and is playing in the league. I'd say at least three spots on the line are open to a kid that wants to seize his moment.

 

[big red22]

There has been a lot of talk on here today about how our coaches tried really hard to land some of the guys today but failed. And I agree that our coaches tried their best to get these guys to Lincoln, really wanted them, and pulled out all the stops.

However, there is also now a lot of talk on here about how we will now be "scrambling" for recruits just like Pelini was at the end of most recruiting cycles. The inference is that Riley is no better at recruiting than Pelini was.

I reject this thinking. For starters, most of the hype with regard to the guys who we wanted today was generated by boards like this. All kinds of posts about crystal balls, and top 15 classes, and this guy or that guy as "must get" recruits, with post after post after post breathlessly following every tweet and message.... So there was an air of expectation that we really were going to get some of these guys, but it was an air of expectation built on hype from these very boards. One wonders to what extent our coaches were also hyperventilating over this? I doubt they were at all. My guess is they knew all along that these guys were a reach, a stretch and so on, but thought "what the hell, let's go get em if we can". But nowhere along the way did our coaches most likely think that we were going to get most or any of these guys. So while some on here are panicking, my guess is the coaches are not. In other words... they were not caught by surprise.

Second... this is not similar to Pelini. Pelini's recruiting was a train wreck from top to bottom. Poorly organized and focused without an eye to roster management. This coaching staff is far more organized and is well aware of what needs to get done. They are not in full panic mode right now nor are they going to "scramble" for recruits. My firm conviction is they have a plan in place and are going to follow it right up until signing day. No scrambling, just a calm determination to go after the best guys they can find. They, unlike members of this board, never bought into the hype machine and are therefore most likely not back in their rooms crying and sucking their thumbs.

Third, there is still a lot of time left to recruit. All we need are about 7 more guys for a decent class. You don't think our coaches can identify 7 football players somewhere in this country who can be real gamers and ballers for this team? I think they can and will.

Pennsy,

I can play on both sides. I tend to lean on the more optimistic side of thing the majority of the time. Sometimes I feel the need to speak out in a negative fashion. Now is not the time I will speak negatively out about the coaches and lack of landing the high profile recruits

1. These coaches deserve the right to recruit until February... If at that time this class is sitting at 25 or below they will have failed at the recruiting game. Unlike other years this one had a different vibe, and with Keyshawn here and all the "unofficial visits" we got from his buddies. I feel that this was the time to get the Top guys. Because of this anything below 25 they failed. They will have settled and only pull in mid tier guys that Pelini, Callahan and Solich all could get too.

2. I agree with you on the organized part, and it feels like they have a better feel for how to get the guys to visit. The part that matters though "getting them to sign" is all the same. No matter how good they are at convincing these kids that Riley is a great guy and the nicest coach in America. None of it matters unless they want to play for that Nice Guy.

3. Lastly, I want nothing more then to see Riley succeed and I would love to be wrong about this middle of the road class that I feel pretty strong about us ending up with. The problem is I just don't see it happening. It just seems when it comes down to it they(Top tier talent) all go to the trending schools. I don't blame the coaches for failing to land these guys, but if they don't land more than Gebbia and KJJ from California. We wasted a shit ton of money on a bunch of nothing. When I say California prospects I don't mean the back up plans from California... I mean the Blades, Lenoir, G Johnson and Joseph Lewis's.

Edit: I forgot to mention we are sitting at 38... There are 64 Power 5 teams. Letthat sink in a bit. Nebraska is sitting in the bottom half of the Power 5 schools. Nebraska is not supposed to be inthe bottom half of anything football. We put too much in to it as a State for us to be sitting there

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Pennsy,

I can play on both sides. I tend to lean on the more optimistic side of thing the majority of the time. Sometimes I feel the need to speak out in a negative fashion. Now is not the time I will speak negatively out about the coaches and lack of landing the high profile recruits

1. These coaches deserve the right to recruit until February... If at that time this class is sitting at 25 or below they will have failed at the recruiting game. Unlike other years this one had a different vibe, and with Keyshawn here and all the "unofficial visits" we got from his buddies. I feel that this was the time to get the Top guys. Because of this anything below 25 they failed. They will have settled and only pull in mid tier guys that Pelini, Callahan and Solich all could get too.

2. I agree with you on the organized part, and it feels like they have a better feel for how to get the guys to visit. The part that matters though "getting them to sign" is all the same. No matter how good they are at convincing these kids that Riley is a great guy and the nicest coach in America. None of it matters unless they want to play for that Nice Guy.

3. Lastly, I want nothing more then to see Riley succeed and I would love to be wrong about this middle of the road class that I feel pretty strong about us ending up with. The problem is I just don't see it happening. It just seems when it comes down to it they(Top tier talent) all go to the trending schools. I don't blame the coaches for failing to land these guys, but if they don't land more than Gebbia and KJJ from California. We wasted a shit ton of money on a bunch of nothing. When I say California prospects I don't mean the back up plans from California... I mean the Blades, Lenoir, G Johnson and Joseph Lewis's.

Edit: I forgot to mention we are sitting at 38... There are 64 Power 5 teams. Letthat sink in a bit. Nebraska is sitting in the bottom half of the Power 5 schools. Nebraska is not supposed to be inthe bottom half of anything football. We put too much in to it as a State for us to be sitting there

The thing that really makes me wonder about us sitting at 38 is how much our low ranking might be due to the fact that we do not offer illegal incentives to players to come here. I am starting to think that Archie is right and that there is way, way more cheating going on in that domain than we can possibly imagine. I get that we are geographically in the middle of nowhere. But come on... we also have tons of things to sell to recruits. I am not expecting us to be in the top 10 or even the top 15 this year. But 38th? Something is fishy.... And I don't think it is because our coaches cannot recruit.

 

[jflores]

Posted on another board using 247 composite:

"Rank/Team/# Commits/Avg. Ranking/Total Ranking
2. Ohio State / 18 / 95.93 / 308.94
4. Michigan / 27 / 91.02 / 283.27
14. Penn State / 18 / 88.87 / 227.07
17. Maryland / 29 / 86.10 / 219.33
31. Michigan State / 17 / 86.04 / 187.45
33. Nebraska / 15 / 86.42 / 185.66
35. Rutgers / 20 / 84.54 / 183.66
40. Northwestern / 18 / 85.13 / 178.74
44. Wisconsin / 15 / 85.58 / 175.74
45. Illinois / 17 / 84.67 / 173.50
49. Iowa / 14 / 85.49 / 169.50
52. Minnesota / 24 / 83.03 / 164.59
60. Purdue / 19 / 82.19 / 154.89
62. Indiana / 17 / 82.66 / 151.87"

 

[otismotis08]

College football recruiting continues to become more and more dirty. Competition is fierce. The old adage of "nice guys finish last" seems increasingly appropriate.

 

[jflores]

We'll be fine at the end.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

We'll be fine at the end.

I think so too. At least I hope so. And maybe I am just being too cynical. But I think there is a lot of cheating going on

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Posted on another board using 247 composite:

"Rank/Team/# Commits/Avg. Ranking/Total Ranking
2. Ohio State / 18 / 95.93 / 308.94
4. Michigan / 27 / 91.02 / 283.27
14. Penn State / 18 / 88.87 / 227.07
17. Maryland / 29 / 86.10 / 219.33
31. Michigan State / 17 / 86.04 / 187.45
33. Nebraska / 15 / 86.42 / 185.66
35. Rutgers / 20 / 84.54 / 183.66
40. Northwestern / 18 / 85.13 / 178.74
44. Wisconsin / 15 / 85.58 / 175.74
45. Illinois / 17 / 84.67 / 173.50
49. Iowa / 14 / 85.49 / 169.50
52. Minnesota / 24 / 83.03 / 164.59
60. Purdue / 19 / 82.19 / 154.89
62. Indiana / 17 / 82.66 / 151.87"

Thanks for this. I think our "average stars" are not bad. It is just that we lack numbers. If we add 6 or 7 more three star guys where do we finish? Top 30? Top 25?

 

[jflores]

Thanks for this. I think our "average stars" are not bad. It is just that we lack numbers. If we add 6 or 7 more three star guys where do we finish? Top 30? Top 25?

I'd like to jump MSU, although we are essentially tied right now with 2 less recruits.

I don't know that there's anyway you jump Maryland when they are handing out a third of their schollies in a single year, basically.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I'd like to jump MSU, although we are essentially tied right now with 2 less recruits.

I don't know that there's anyway you jump Maryland when they are handing out a third of their schollies in a single year, basically.

Maryland is rated 17th so no, I would not expect to jump them unless they drop. But I would like to finish ahead of MSU and end up in the top 25 or 30.

 

[big red22]

We'll be fine at the end.

Fine as in we get a couple of the guys that we want 1st, or fine in the sense that we will sign 22 kids at positions of need? I want to be wrong here obviously with all my optimism about Darnay Holmes, but I am getting the feeling USC is going to be our worst enemy come signing day for the guys we "want".

 

[big red22]

Maryland is rated 17th so no, I would not expect to jump them unless they drop. But I would like to finish ahead of MSU and end up in the top 25 or 30.

To me that is not acceptable this year. For all the bashing everyone did at Pelini about recruiting 25-35 every year, that should not be acceptable for this staff. I would be okay with somewhere between 18-22 and extremely happy with anything above the 18 range.

I am being serious when I ask this. How is that acceptable when we were in on so many blue chip athletes? Not landing anyone other than KJJ and Gebbia (From the West Coast) would be an absolute failure in my eyes!

 

[jflores]

Fine as in we get a couple of the guys that we want 1st, or fine in the sense that we will sign 22 kids at positions of need? I want to be wrong here obviously with all my optimism about Darnay Holmes, but I am getting the feeling USC is going to be our worst enemy come signing day for the guys we "want".

Fine in total rank and positions of need.

I supported Bo longer than I should have, but my major issue wasn't that he finished 20-30th in recruiting rank, it was that we continually went to Plan D guys who ate up roster slots. Sometimes it worked out, you get a Lamar Alexander now and again, but the depth of our board is such that right now even though we are moving on from the elite few, we still have capable fellas to look at.

Look, there's no replacing someone like Jody Lewis if he walks away, I'm not denying that, but in the Pelini era we would go from Jody Lewis onto some kid from Toledo in late January. If we end up with guys like Hawkins or Nick Robinson or even Thompson (maybe even DaRon Davis?), to go along with the McQuitty and Key, we're going to have a pretty good WR class.

One thing that is rarely brought up from the Callahan era when talk recruiting expectations.....

that Top Ranked Class (legitimately Top 5 across the range of services) was rated #1 by Tom Lemming for a couple of reasons according to Tom. We brought in like 29 guys like Maryland did, and we were going from option to WCO and so he placed a high value on "you are getting the style of players you need for the transition" even if all those guys weren't 5* across the board like OSU's class.

Yes there was clearly some elite talent in that class, but half or more of it was entirely throw away. Nebraska is not going to be turning over a third of the roster every year while transitioning to a different offensive system, so our prospect for making a "splash" in the eyes of recruiting analysts will be few. Callahan's other class with Gabbert and crew, was truly shaping up to be a great one, before he was canned. However, NU fans were about shitting bricks, when NCAA investigators found a photo of Bernard Thomas on a boat with an agent and piles of money, when investigating Miami. Such is the scent of John Blake.

 

[inWV]

Goals of recruiting:
1. Get the best guys you can. Have a good list for Plan-B and C kids.
2. Address areas of need while balancing roster slots overall.
3. Do this consistently year-to-year.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Fine in total rank and positions of need.

I supported Bo longer than I should have, but my major issue wasn't that he finished 20-30th in recruiting rank, it was that we continually went to Plan D guys who ate up roster slots. Sometimes it worked out, you get a Lamar Alexander now and again, but the depth of our board is such that right now even though we are moving on from the elite few, we still have capable fellas to look at.

Look, there's no replacing someone like Jody Lewis if he walks away, I'm not denying that, but in the Pelini era we would go from Jody Lewis onto some kid from Toledo in late January. If we end up with guys like Hawkins or Nick Robinson or even Thompson (maybe even DaRon Davis?), to go along with the McQuitty and Key, we're going to have a pretty good WR class.

One thing that is rarely brought up from the Callahan era when talk recruiting expectations.....

that Top Ranked Class (legitimately Top 5 across the range of services) was rated #1 by Tom Lemming for a couple of reasons according to Tom. We brought in like 29 guys like Maryland did, and we were going from option to WCO and so he placed a high value on "you are getting the style of players you need for the transition" even if all those guys weren't 5* across the board like OSU's class.

Yes there was clearly some elite talent in that class, but half or more of it was entirely throw away. Nebraska is not going to be turning over a third of the roster every year while transitioning to a different offensive system, so our prospect for making a "splash" in the eyes of recruiting analysts will be few. Callahan's other class with Gabbert and crew, was truly shaping up to be a great one, before he was canned. However, NU fans were about shitting bricks, when NCAA investigators found a photo of Bernard Thomas on a boat with an agent and piles of money, when investigating Miami. Such is the scent of John Blake.

This! Exactly. I am ok with a 25th rated class if most of those kids turn into competitive players who really produce for us and are not dead weight on the roster. You build to a level of toughness and competitiveness, and then go from there to the next level.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Goals of recruiting:
1. Get the best guys you can. Have a good list for Plan-B and C kids.
2. Address areas of need while balancing roster slots overall.
3. Do this consistently year-to-year.

And if you do all of those things, by year five you are fielding teams that are damn tough to beat by anyone.

 

[TheBeav815]

Another issue with Pelini was the inability to replace non-producers with incoming freshmen. I don't need to see them oversign by 10 every year, but if a guy is getting to be in his 3rd or 4th year and doesn't sniff the field, it's time to "discuss his options."

Graduating a bunch of nobodies is the feel-good story of the year right up until it gets you fired. If you aren't pulling in 5* and 4* guys then you'd better be a volume shooter on those 3* kids.

That's my fierce objection to handing out schollies to walk-ons in lieu of hitting your number using "plan C" kids or whatever. The data is clear that you have a better chance of putting a 3* in the league than you do a walk-on. For every JJ Watt or Jano there are 60 walk-on guys you never heard of because they didn't ever get on the field in a meaningful game.

And you don't have to pick. Walk-ons will still be there. SIGN KIDS ON SCHOLLY.

 

[HuskerNorm]

Another issue with Pelini was the inability to replace non-producers with incoming freshmen. I don't need to see them oversign by 10 every year, but if a guy is getting to be in his 3rd or 4th year and doesn't sniff the field, it's time to "discuss his options."

Graduating a bunch of nobodies is the feel-good story of the year right up until it gets you fired. If you aren't pulling in 5* and 4* guys then you'd better be a volume shooter on those 3* kids.

That's my fierce objection to handing out schollies to walk-ons in lieu of hitting your number using "plan C" kids or whatever. The data is clear that you have a better chance of putting a 3* in the league than you do a walk-on. For every JJ Watt or Jano there are 60 walk-on guys you never heard of because they didn't ever get on the field in a meaningful game.

And you don't have to pick. Walk-ons will still be there. SIGN KIDS ON SCHOLLY.

The strange thing is not only did Pelini have a problem with non-contributors staying on a roster, he also had a problem with highly rated guys and/or contributors leaving the roster early (see Green, Moore, Moss, Heard, etc.). These two things combined really make your talent level go down quickly.

Edit: and by Green I mean Aaron Green not Cody Green.

 

[jflores]

The strange thing is not only did Pelini have a problem with non-contributors staying on a roster, he also had a problem with highly rated guys and/or contributors leaving the roster early (see Green, Moore, Moss, Heard, etc.). These two things combined really make your talent level go down quickly.

Edit: and by Green I mean Aaron Green not Cody Green.

Cody Green was also a 4* I believe.

 

[dinglefritz]

The strange thing is not only did Pelini have a problem with non-contributors staying on a roster, he also had a problem with highly rated guys and/or contributors leaving the roster early (see Green, Moore, Moss, Heard, etc.). These two things combined really make your talent level go down quickly.

Edit: and by Green I mean Aaron Green not Cody Green.

he had at least one class that was almost a total bust. It's normal to have a fair number out of your class not produce on the field but man when you only get a couple of guys to produce out of a whole recruiting class that's bad. That class killed us this year.

 

[Morgan747]

We'll be fine at the end.

Sure we will!

 

[huskerfan1414]

The thing that really makes me wonder about us sitting at 38 is how much our low ranking might be due to the fact that we do not offer illegal incentives to players to come here. I am starting to think that Archie is right and that there is way, way more cheating going on in that domain than we can possibly imagine. I get that we are geographically in the middle of nowhere. But come on... we also have tons of things to sell to recruits. I am not expecting us to be in the top 10 or even the top 15 this year. But 38th? Something is fishy.... And I don't think it is because our coaches cannot recruit.

So does this excuse count for Bo's lackluster recruiting, too?
(Note: I don't think so, just pointing out the potential for ANOTHER example of goal posts moving.)

 

[Pennsyhusker]

So does this excuse count for Bo's lackluster recruiting, too?
(Note: I don't think so, just pointing out the potential for ANOTHER example of goal posts moving.)

I think Pelini did not cheat

 

[Nate004]

You guys *think* there is illegal recruiting going on??? Of course there is! Just like I bet if suddenly a bag of cash of popped up for Calvin, or a car finds itself in his driveway... or suddenly a position opened up at NU for mom or pop... I'd bet you'd find that friendship or god's will for Oregon St. would change quickly.

 

[nebcountry]

It's been a pretty long time ago (in internet years), but there was a news reporting agency that conducted a study (good luck finding a link). They followed a half dozen teams or so (iirc), and on average, only 39 guys played meaningful minutes through the course of the season. I'll reverse engineer that into meaning you'll need about 40 players if you want good depth.

If on average your soph, jr, and sr classes each contribute 12 players and you make up the balance with fr/redshirtfr, then you'll get your 40. Repeat every year and you'll have a sustainable program. Of course this is a silly strawman, but it serves it's purpose to illustrate.

So what happens if you waltz into December and/or January with 14 or 15 recruits committed. The guys you really wanted, that you studied and ranked, now you need 12 out of 14 or 15 to hit. Or rely on the leavings of CFB recruiting still available the last week before signing day. This is the very problem with Pelini's recruiting in my eyes. You might have classes where you have more hits, more misses. But in the end it will balance out and you won't have enough hits to provide depth.

The current staff looks to have the recruiting machine in place. They tried shooting for the moon, and it's a learning opportunity. I still fully expect that we'll get some of the guys off our list, but we'll still be late fishing in a fished out lake to fill out the class.

To me this is where we can help our program. Take some "good" guys in June, so we're not fishing in January. And no, I'm not talking about filling out the roster with June players, leave room for some hat guys, leave some room for the blue chippers highly interested in us.

Michigan may have 10 guys they want, but they're not getting their 10. OhSU may have 10 guys they want, but they're not getting their 10. And NU has 10 guys we want, well, we're not getting all our 10 either.

 

[jflores]

This isn't addressed to anyone in particular, but there's been some level headed discussion of "fishing" and some more despaired discussion of the same topic in the last 48 hours or so.

I would submit that we hold off on that phrase for the time being. We did not get Calvin but lets look at who's still on the big board:

Lewis 5*
Robinson 4*
Bowden 4*
Grimes 4*
Thompson 4*
Hawkins 3*
(perhaps Calvin 4*)
(Perhaps Davis 4*)

There are probably others, but it makes the point. That's a short light year away from the typical Pelini fishing expedition folks here are used to.

Leitao may well be substituted with either Robinson 4* or Radfal 3*

We added a 2* dev project in Walker, but that's to a position group where we already have our two OT's and missed on the cherry. Also not a move of desparation.

The only group, as I noted somewhere where we seem to be a bit thin is DE and we'll have to see what happens with Parella these last few weeks if Thomas and/or Beal are not in the cards. That may be the only true fishing expedition the staff goes on this year.

 

[LAjayhawk]

Trojan/Jayhawk here - USC expects to sign J Lewis and Johnson - probably the only DB spot left taken by Johnson - don't know status of Lenoir and Blades - USC offered a 4star OT from NorCal who is new and he takes a little guy spot

 

[big red22]

Trojan/Jayhawk here - USC expects to sign J Lewis and Johnson - probably the only DB spot left taken by Johnson - don't know status of Lenoir and Blades - USC offered a 4star OT from NorCal who is new and he takes a little guy spot

Like I said in a previous post. One of two things are going to happen.

1. We are going to piss USC off by getting Lewis, Lenoir, Blades and G. Johnson
2. We strike out and USC lands the majority of them.

I always hold a glimmer of hope that maybe one day we will actually get a couple of our Plan A guys. The way this class seems to be shaping up I think we really aren't going to like USC come Februray

 

[big red22]

This isn't addressed to anyone in particular, but there's been some level headed discussion of "fishing" and some more despaired discussion of the same topic in the last 48 hours or so.

I would submit that we hold off on that phrase for the time being. We did not get Calvin but lets look at who's still on the big board:

Lewis 5*
Robinson 4*
Bowden 4*
Grimes 4*
Thompson 4*
Hawkins 3*
(perhaps Calvin 4*)
(Perhaps Davis 4*)

There are probably others, but it makes the point. That's a short light year away from the typical Pelini fishing expedition folks here are used to.

Leitao may well be substituted with either Robinson 4* or Radfal 3*

We added a 2* dev project in Walker, but that's to a position group where we already have our two OT's and missed on the cherry. Also not a move of desparation.

The only group, as I noted somewhere where we seem to be a bit thin is DE and we'll have to see what happens with Parella these last few weeks if Thomas and/or Beal are not in the cards. That may be the only true fishing expedition the staff goes on this year.

Are we out of it with Gavin Holmes?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Interesting if true

 

[big red22]

Rumor floating around that T L


Rumor floating around that Tyjon Lindsey is back in the fold.

One of HuskersOnline's recruiting staff said that in a video update prior to the AAA game

EDIT: He was basing it on the fact that Urban Meyer got rid of his offensive staff

 

[Mr.Scary13]

This isn't addressed to anyone in particular, but there's been some level headed discussion of "fishing" and some more despaired discussion of the same topic in the last 48 hours or so.

I would submit that we hold off on that phrase for the time being. We did not get Calvin but lets look at who's still on the big board:

Lewis 5*
Robinson 4*
Bowden 4*
Grimes 4*
Thompson 4*
Hawkins 3*
(perhaps Calvin 4*)
(Perhaps Davis 4*)

There are probably others, but it makes the point. That's a short light year away from the typical Pelini fishing expedition folks here are used to.

Leitao may well be substituted with either Robinson 4* or Radfal 3*

We added a 2* dev project in Walker, but that's to a position group where we already have our two OT's and missed on the cherry. Also not a move of desparation.

The only group, as I noted somewhere where we seem to be a bit thin is DE and we'll have to see what happens with Parella these last few weeks if Thomas and/or Beal are not in the cards. That may be the only true fishing expedition the staff goes on this year.

Rumor floating around that Tyjon Lindsey is back in the mix

 

[LAjayhawk]

Some classes like USC and OSU will be full so hanging around the hoop will get some dudes this year

 

[dinglefritz]

Like I said in a previous post. One of two things are going to happen.

1. We are going to piss USC off by getting Lewis, Lenoir, Blades and G. Johnson
2. We strike out and USC lands the majority of them.

I always hold a glimmer of hope that maybe one day we will actually get a couple of our Plan A guys. The way this class seems to be shaping up I think we really aren't going to like USC come Februray

I view it maybe a little differently. IMO we already have 3 of our plan A guys on campus in Gebbia, Avery and KJJ. Those are huge pick ups. We right now anyway have multiple plan A guys committed (guys we were on early and clearly wanted). Now we need to fill the class and there's some really good players we're in on. Getting those 3 kids in early was huge because IMO they can all be difference makers down the road. We just need to close strong filling some needs we don't have that many spots left to fill. I keep forgetting McQuitty. Didn't he enroll early too. I really like that kid's potential.

 

[H.T.O.]

I always hold a glimmer of hope that maybe one day we will actually get a couple of our Plan A guys.

Our commit list is filled with "Plan A guys". Your comment doesn't make an ounce of sense.

 

[jflores]

Our commit list is filled with "Plan A guys". Your comment doesn't make an ounce of sense.

There's entirely too much slant put on, only the 5* guys are plan A guys.

 

[big red22]

I view it maybe a little differently. IMO we already have 3 of our plan A guys on campus in Gebbia, Avery and KJJ. Those are huge pick ups. We right now anyway have multiple plan A guys committed (guys we were on early and clearly wanted). Now we need to fill the class and there's some really good players we're in on. Getting those 3 kids in early was huge because IMO they can all be difference makers down the road. We just need to close strong filling some needs we don't have that many spots left to fill. I keep forgetting McQuitty. Didn't he enroll early too. I really like that kid's potential.

I agree that we landed a few "A" guys, but we missed on a huge percentage.

I'm talking about the recruits we lost to Utah, Oregon and Oregon St.

Were they not on our A list HTO

 

[big red22]

Our commit list is filled with "Plan A guys". Your comment doesn't make an ounce of sense.

You know HTO, if you know "Everything"? How many Plan "A" DB's do we have?

In my understanding of football it is nice to have "A" guys at every position, not just a few. How about DE or TE... We have all our plan A guys there.

I get that we have plenty of great recruits in the class. I am not okay with "Some" I think we pay are coach enough to fill out a complete class with plan "A" guys. Unless he fills the holes at DE, TE and DB with a few blue chips we will continue to always be good in one aspect of the game and not so much in another.

So does it make any sense now?

Before you spout off about how DB's aren't a position of need tell that to the teams that are actually relevant that sign blue chip after blue chip even though they don't need them.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Our commit list is filled with "Plan A guys". Your comment doesn't make an ounce of sense.

Agreed. If you look at our average stars as well, then there is no doubt that the guys we have on board are plan A recruits. I just think people are overreacting to the ballon of artificially inflated expectations on Saturday being deflated. They are also reacting, prematurely, to our current ranking of 39th due to the fact that we only have 15 recruits.
I think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised by how nicely we fill out our last 7 or 8 slots.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

There's entirely too much slant put on, only the 5* guys are plan A guys.

This