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Anyone else excited?

Remember this coaching staff threw it 49 times with a backup QBs first start on the road against a Purdue team ranked 78th against the run.

I will just say I'm not as optimistic as most of you.
Remember when most of those passes came when we were down big and trying to get back into it?

Not saying the coaches never made mistakes, but to cherry pick the worst game is so silly... My response is simple. Did you watch Michigan state? How about ucla?

Let's just say I'm more optimistic than you.
 
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We're not talking about rocket science with what they're doing in the secondary. Honestly, with that system, if you can't teach it in year one, I'm not sure you're a good enough coach to make it good in year two. We'll see.
Thanks for this insight... Michigan state was 72nd nationally in pass efficiency defense last year. With the same system that they've used for a number of years, why were they so bad? It's not rocket science, after all...
 
Thanks for this insight... Michigan state was 72nd nationally in pass efficiency defense last year. With the same system that they've used for a number of years, why were they so bad? It's not rocket science, after all...

Umm...thanks for making my point. They had a new DC last year.
 
It is coaching, not the system! Anybody in the world can download a playbook off the internet for crying out loud. You have to be able to coach it!
 
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Heck I've got every one of Pat Narduzzi and Harlon Barnett's videos and also know through clinics everything they are trying to do defensively. Does that mean I can coach at their level?
 
It is coaching, not the system! Anybody in the world can download a playbook off the internet for crying out loud. You have to be able to coach it!
So here's my point. Coaching is just a part of it. You also have to have players who are comfortable in the system. And even then, they also need to be competent. Don't be stupid and say it's all coaching when there are other factors in play.
 
Heck I've got every one of Pat Narduzzi and Harlon Barnett's videos and also know through clinics everything they are trying to do defensively. Does that mean I can coach at their level?
Then why were they so bad last year? Just answer that question for me.
 
thanks, Einstein.

So Michigan state DB coach who has been thee for 10 years now sucks. Bad coaching. Got it.
It's not that he is bad at coaching… But there's a huge difference from being a defense backs coach to actually making defense of calls for your team in the game. A lot of it is feeling instinct.
 
So here's my point. Coaching is just a part of it. You also have to have players who are comfortable in the system. And even then, they also need to be competent. Don't be stupid and say it's all coaching when there are other factors in play.

Who is the one who makes players comfortable in the system?
 
It's not that he is bad at coaching… But there's a huge difference from being a defense backs coach to actually making defense of calls for your team in the game. A lot of it is feeling instinct.
Forgive me for putting more emphasis on DB coach... This post clarifies you're speaking more towards the DC. I will admit the jury is still out on Banker.
 
Thanks for this insight... Michigan state was 72nd nationally in pass efficiency defense last year. With the same system that they've used for a number of years, why were they so bad? It's not rocket science, after all...
 
I think what you are saying is, it's a little easier having realistic expectations upfront, and thus not putting one's' self through all that turmoil unnecessarily.

FLAG!

Flagrant misuse of 'realistic'. Fifteen yards, loss of down.
 
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we were down big (to Purdue) and trying to get back into it?

Let's just say I'm more optimistic than you.

It was a terrible game plan. Couple that with terrible clock management during other games and I don't have a lot of confidence in this staff.

Yes, they finished the season strong and hopefully figured some things out but the 10 win season talk (from others) is not realistic
 
It was a terrible game plan. Couple that with terrible clock management during other games and I don't have a lot of confidence in this staff.

Yes, they finished the season strong and hopefully figured some things out but the 10 win season talk (from others) is not realistic
Agree that the game plan was bad. Execution was bad. The entire game was bad. And again, to me, basing the coaching staff's ability on one game seems pretty silly. They obviously struggled in other games during the season, but they also began figuring things out down the stretch, as you acknowledge. To say because of that game, though, that there isn't anything to be optimistic about seems short-sighted.

So if 10 games is unrealistic, what do you expect? 8 wins? 6 wins? You're so certain that you're right and the optimists are wrong, what should we expect?

Edit: for me, I am an optimist and think we could win 10 this year, but am not expecting it necessarily. I think 9 wins is not asking too much.
 
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I'm excited about this year. I'm excited about Nebraska football, and I'm an Iowa fan.
I think last year was a fluke for you guys - some of those games were bizarre - and people were looking too far ahead to the Huskers playing championship football during a year with a new coach and system coming in. I expect Nebraska to be really good this year and easily in contention for the B1G West title - there's too much talent and experience and no transition. I don't see any slipping back. And I think those that say the Huskers days of greatness are over are full of s**t.
Iowa was unexpectedly good last year, and not given much credit for it. Some of those games could have gone the other way, too, but it's not just all luck. Things went our way, unlike Nebraska, where they didn't. Iowa could be better this year, but I can't help but think we'll slip back a bit, especially given Ferentz's pattern from year to year.
In any case, both teams are good and could have banner years in 2016. Nebraska and Iowa are a good match and fun to watch, and there is a rivalry developing. So, I'm excited.
THANKS for the good post. I am a long time drinker of the Red Koolaide; but a general Iowa fan before we joined the BIG; enjoyed the guys and their versions of Miracle seasons. So I think Iowa isn't going to fall back as much as many may think - I think the sons of the head coach are a big reason for the resurgence; inspired young coaches.
- That said its on TA that we lost to them last year ( a beat to death topic ? ). Turnovers to easy points.
- We have the horses to beat them at home; but they are spirited
- Our beating UCLA shows we can beat a star laden team/ not sure the Iowa loss to Stanford tells the whole story.
- West division needs to knock some more East teams off their ego's; history shows Iowa will show up to help.
 
We're not talking about rocket science with what they're doing in the secondary. Honestly, with that system, if you can't teach it in year one, I'm not sure you're a good enough coach to make it good in year two. We'll see.

So tell me, why did we improve pretty dramatically in terms of pass defense toward the end of the year? Same personnel, yet better results.
Oh yeah...the buy-in factor.

If you've got your crap together Xs-and-Os wise, you can coach your position, and you can motivate, then kids BUY IN. If you don't check those boxes, then players will look for excuses not to succeed. That's middle-school coaching basics.

So....let me make sure I have this straight, so I fully understand your stance. You're saying "If you've got your crap together Xs and Os wise...and you can motivate...then kids buy in."

Sounds like an in-depth analysis to me. Middle-school basics indeed.
 
This is an interesting point and one that I share. I wonder if there isn't a little bit of a generational divide among Husker fans with regard to what this team means to the State. I am 58 and the Devaney-Osborne dynasty meant a great, great deal to me and my friends/family. The pride of the whole State was invested in the excellence of those teams. Now? It has been almost 20 years since Osborne retired and NU football has been run-of-the-mill good for all those years. Nothing special now. We are Iowa West in terms of national perception. So I wonder if younger fans still feel that intense pride in the team we old farts do.

I doubt you would feel that pride if we had been as mediocre as we have been the last 15 years for the last 50 years.
 
So tell me, why did we improve pretty dramatically in terms of pass defense toward the end of the year? Same personnel, yet better results.


So....let me make sure I have this straight, so I fully understand your stance. You're saying "If you've got your crap together Xs and Os wise...and you can motivate...then kids buy in."

Sounds like an in-depth analysis to me. Middle-school basics indeed.

Better coaches, just like better bosses, teachers, etc.get people to perform better and reach expectations quicker. Is this really that hard to understand?

Do you want Jaime Escalante teaching your calculus kids or some 5th grade teacher...either for immediate success or for future math?

Banker did not convince kids on Xs and Os, nor is he a great motivator. Kids did not believe in him last year...and if they did, it was really late in the year.
 
So tell me, why did we improve pretty dramatically in terms of pass defense toward the end of the year? Same personnel, yet better results.


So....let me make sure I have this straight, so I fully understand your stance. You're saying "If you've got your crap together Xs and Os wise...and you can motivate...then kids buy in."

Sounds like an in-depth analysis to me. Middle-school basics indeed.

Maybe stick to looking down your nose at people's music choices? This coaching discussion is not going to work out very well for you at all.
 
So tell me, why did we improve pretty dramatically in terms of pass defense toward the end of the year? Same personnel, yet better results.


So....let me make sure I have this straight, so I fully understand your stance. You're saying "If you've got your crap together Xs and Os wise...and you can motivate...then kids buy in."

Sounds like an in-depth analysis to me. Middle-school basics indeed.
Take out the middle school opinion and you pretty much get it. Put it another way some coaches get more out of players than others
 
Take out the middle school opinion and you pretty much get it. Put it another way some coaches get more out of players than others

Nick Saban went 7-6 at Alabama the year after Mike Shula went 6-7. How about we give Riley a little more time before we completely crucify him.

If he doesn't win at least 8 games this year, I'll probably be pretty pissed too. But changing both the offense and defense and having a QB that threw 18 picks isn't going to be too kind to any new coach.
 
Nick Saban went 7-6 at Alabama the year after Mike Shula went 6-7. How about we give Riley a little more time before we completely crucify him.

If he doesn't win at least 8 games this year, I'll probably be pretty pissed too. But changing both the offense and defense and having a QB that threw 18 picks isn't going to be too kind to any new coach.
Nobody is crucifying Riley - Banker maybe Saban had a previous track record before Alabama - also he suspended a bunch of players at Alabama - which according to some Riley should have done

Again He decided to change everything and not adapt to what what he had - Last year is part of Riley's record - this year counts too
 
Agree that the game plan was bad. Execution was bad. The entire game was bad. And again, to me, basing the coaching staff's ability on one game seems pretty silly. They obviously struggled in other games during the season, but they also began figuring things out down the stretch, as you acknowledge. To say because of that game, though, that there isn't anything to be optimistic about seems short-sighted.

So if 10 games is unrealistic, what do you expect? 8 wins? 6 wins? You're so certain that you're right and the optimists are wrong, what should we expect?

Edit: for me, I am an optimist and think we could win 10 this year, but am not expecting it necessarily. I think 9 wins is not asking too much.
Timsun I am curious if they win 6 games this year and we see many of the same problems does that change your opinion of this staff? I am not saying I expect this but it is possible
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If we get the turnovers down to something reasonable and get decent pressure on QB's anything can happen. Parella may be the answer to getting pressure - got to be better than last year. The turnover thing depends on not giving up on the running game. Talk is cheap and running the ball takes real commitment.
 
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Timsun I am curious if they win 6 games this year and we see many of the same problems does that change your opinion of this staff? I am not saying I expect this but it is possible
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  • @Indiana
  • @Wi
  • @OSU
  • @Iowa

Those 6 games you listed without question will determine how good or bad of a season we will have.

I'm thinking we at least win 3 of these games and if TA takes care of the ball and doesn't turn it over to the opposition could result in even more wins.
 
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