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Am I the only one not sold on DR?

I don't think he would have won either one. Both their backups are just as accurate to this point with more mobility than DR.
Are you really comparing the offensive lines and skill position players of Nebraska to Ohio State or Georgia? You were comparing the accuracy of Dylan Raiola in the Nebraska offense versus Howard in the Ohio State offense or the Georgia quarterback in their offense. You have no idea what Raiola could have or would’ve accomplished in a similar situation.
 
Your first paragraph is kind of where I am. McCord was the guy I wanted and there’s no doubt the team would have won a couple more games with him in the roster.

But this would have masked the issues on the team as a whole. It wasn’t just QB play that was the problem this year. It was coaching. From Rhule on down.

It was after the NIU game that I began to have serious concerns about the team. The defense was showing some major cracks in the armor. And when I pointed that out on the forum by saying the team was going to have play a lot better to beat Illinois and Indiana, it was met with scorn by the usual posters with brainrot.

Then Illinois and Indiana proved it. Some of you are just so confidently wrong about shit that I often find myself envious of your ignorance.

The team was very much - and still is - a work in progress. And they seemed to be a couple years away from being really good. That may still be the case, but we’ll see what these new portal players and recruits do next year.

Having McCord would have hidden a lot of those problems. They would have likely gone 9-4 and everyone would be extremely optimistic about the future, and then next year sans McCord the team would crash and burn. (Or with that record, they may have gotten even better players in the portal so who knows.)

At any rate, having DR may have been a blessing in disguise as it allows the coaching staff to address the weaknesses in a real way.
This is pretty much where I'm at. Think we could have had a much better year this year with a more seasoned qb, but it probably hides our issues with Satt, McGuire, and maybe even ST.
 
This is pretty much where I'm at. Think we could have had a much better year this year with a more seasoned qb, but it probably hides our issues with Satt, McGuire, and maybe even ST.
Even if your hypothetical fantasy situation where McCord was able to lead Nebraska to one or two more victories is accurate, what do you do for 2025? Raiola wasn’t going to be here, so you have to hunt and hit on another transfer or you have Danny Kaelin or the future all league TE as your starter. A single eight win season is not worth the next two or three years of less wins. The logic baffles me.
 
And Martinez lost 6 fumbles. You are trying really hard to win an unwinnable argument. This is like arguing best teams ever and comparing army from the 1940s and Miami in the late 80s early 90s.
So do you think DR had as good of a frosh season as AM? I’m not sure you ever said. But you are right - hard to compare anyway. Different coaches, different players. From my memory that team that AM was a frosh on was a better offensive team and this year’s team’s strength was more on D. But the years go by and years begin to meld into each other. Have a happy New Year - you and your fam.
 
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Even if your hypothetical fantasy situation where McCord was able to lead Nebraska to one or two more victories is accurate, what do you do for 2025? Raiola wasn’t going to be here, so you have to hunt and hit on another transfer or you have Danny Kaelin or the future all league TE as your starter. A single eight win season is not worth the next two or three years of less wins. The logic baffles me.
No, his fantasy is that Nebraska wins AT LEAST four more games with McCord at QB.

For a team with one unit (D-Line) that was somewhat elite and no others that were even above average, 10-2 was the absolute floor.

Based on facts, of course.
 
So do you think DR had as good of a frosh season as AM? I’m not sure you ever said. But you are right - hard to compare anyway. Different coaches, different players. From my memory that team that AM was a frosh on was a better offensive team and this year’s team’s strength was more on D. But the years go by and years begin to meld into each other. Have a happy New Year - you and your fam.
I don’t think it matters who had the better individual season. Raiola took advantage of his situation and led the team to a bowl game in his first year where Martinez never met that goal.

Happy New Year to you and yours as well.
 
I can't argue with what you believe.

I just know Rhule has been our coach for 2 years and has promised the starting QB job prior to each.

and I don't fault him for it or necessarily think it's a bad thing, although it looks really bad when you pick the wrong guy (Sims).

DR doesn't come here if McCord is in the room. that's just a fact and you don't seem to dispute it.
The McCord visit was already in the works or done before DR made his intentions known? IIRC That tells me he wasn't scared of McCord. Raiola was going to have to win the job at any top school like UGA. Whereas McCord obviously fled competition by picking Syracuse.
 
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Even if your hypothetical fantasy situation where McCord was able to lead Nebraska to one or two more victories is accurate, what do you do for 2025? Raiola wasn’t going to be here, so you have to hunt and hit on another transfer or you have Danny Kaelin or the future all league TE as your starter. A single eight win season is not worth the next two or three years of less wins. The logic baffles me.
I think it would have been more like 3 or 4 more wins. Like I said though, Leavitt was still in play. I think Raiola would have been 3rd string behind the young QB's Georgia and Ohio State have. So Dylan likely would have been available. And there's always the option to tamper with Arch Manning. I think there were plenty of better options than settling for a true freshman QB. But also like I said, things may end up working for the better as we were able to snag Dana for next year.
 
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No, his fantasy is that Nebraska wins AT LEAST four more games with McCord at QB.

For a team with one unit (D-Line) that was somewhat elite and no others that were even above average, 10-2 was the absolute floor.

Based on facts, of course.
I think McCord would have led us to a similar season as he did Syracuse, so ultimately 10-3. Likely 9-3 or 10-2 during the regular season. Syracuse certainly doesn't have a better defense or more talent overall than we do.
 
So do you think DR had as good of a frosh season as AM? I’m not sure you ever said. But you are right - hard to compare anyway. Different coaches, different players. From my memory that team that AM was a frosh on was a better offensive team and this year’s team’s strength was more on D. But the years go by and years begin to meld into each other. Have a happy New Year - you and your fam.
Statistically I suppose Amart was better? I don't know. What I do know is that the problems of not winning games and having crucial turnovers were there for Amart. Dylan exorcised a major demon for NU this year. Took a major weight off the program. Not one qb could do that since 2016.

What I hope is they dial back those 50/50 balls next year. I know they are very hard to defend if executed, but damn are they ugly when not executed properly. I hope DH works more on hitting guys like Barney in stride and letting them run, rather than fighting for jump balls.
 
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The McCord visit was already in the works or done before DR made his intentions known? IIRC That tells me he wasn't scared of McCord. Raiola was going to have to win the job at any top school like UGA. Whereas McCord obviously fled competition by picking Syracuse.
all that tells us is that Rhule had made his Sophie's Choice
 
I think McCord would have led us to a similar season as he did Syracuse, so ultimately 10-3. Likely 9-3 or 10-2 during the regular season. Syracuse certainly doesn't have a better defense or more talent overall than we do.
Maybe. Syracuse didn't exactly play a daunting schedule and McCord is kind of known for being reckless. He threw those 3 pick sixes against Pitt, did he throw more? I doubt he would have less turnovers than DR if he played here.
 
No, his fantasy is that Nebraska wins AT LEAST four more games with McCord at QB.

For a team with one unit (D-Line) that was somewhat elite and no others that were even above average, 10-2 was the absolute floor.

Based on facts, of course.
Edit: To be clear, this person was quoting Oldjar, so I can’t speak for him. But I’m leaving this here anyway.

This is the kind of brainrot I was talking about.

I specifically said they would likely have won a couple more games but then would have crashed and burn because McCord would have masked the problems.

DR allows them to address those problems and move forward, hopefully.

Reading comprehension is hard.
 
Edit: To be clear, this person was quoting Oldjar, so I can’t speak for him. But I’m leaving this here anyway.

This is the kind of brainrot I was talking about.

I specifically said they would likely have won a couple more games but then would have crashed and burn because McCord would have masked the problems.

DR allows them to address those problems and move forward, hopefully.

Reading comprehension is hard.
I wasn’t directing that at you. I totally agree NU might have won a couple more games with McCord at QB. It’s oldjar’s contention that they would have gone at least 10-2 that I find laughable.

You can be a fairly mediocre team and win eight games. But this roster wasn’t going 10-2 with Joe Burrow at QB.
 
I wasn’t directing that at you. I totally agree NU might have won a couple more games with McCord at QB. It’s oldjar’s contention that they would have gone at least 10-2 that I find laughable.

You can be a fairly mediocre team and win eight games. But this roster wasn’t going 10-2 with Joe Burrow at QB.
I'd say 9-3 or 10-2. "At least 10-2" is putting words in my mouth that I never said. Again, that's with 5 losses this year where seasoned QB play would have made a massive difference in the outcome. And you can go ahead and look at DR's stats in those games and tell me they weren't putrid.
 
I'd say 9-3 or 10-2. "At least 10-2" is putting words in my mouth that I never said. Again, that's with 5 losses this year where seasoned QB play would have made a massive difference in the outcome. And you can go ahead and look at DR's stats in those games and tell me they weren't putrid.
Bullshit. A couple of days ago you insisted NU would have won at least four more games with McCord at QB, and that was before the 7th win. You were either drunk at the time or you’re just a liar.

EDIT: Here's your "receipt," blowhard. You posted this on Saturday:
Our record would have been the similar and we would be playing a RS freshman in Kaelin or a TE in Haarberg for year 3. Or we would be chasing the portal for another QB.

Your love affair with McCord is weird

oldjar07 said:
Would have had at least 4 more wins with McCord. He's 10x the QB Raiola is at this point.
 
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Bullshit. A couple of days ago you insisted NU would have won at least four more games with McCord at QB, and that was before the 7th win. You were either drunk at the time or you’re just a liar.

EDIT: Here's your "receipt," blowhard. You posted this on Saturday:


oldjar07 said:
Would have had at least 4 more wins with McCord. He's 10x the QB Raiola is at this point.
That was a post right after Syracuse's bowl game where McCord played very well and was directed at a poster I have a long history with. So yeah, it was slightly reactionary and I guess you're right that I did say "at least 4 more wins." Now I'm saying 3 or 4 as my non-reactionary take.
 
I wasn’t directing that at you. I totally agree NU might have won a couple more games with McCord at QB. It’s oldjar’s contention that they would have gone at least 10-2 that I find laughable.

You can be a fairly mediocre team and win eight games. But this roster wasn’t going 10-2 with Joe Burrow at QB.
I think NU beats ILL and one of USC/UCLA with McCord. For those with limited memory skills, neither the McCords nor the Raiolas were interested in both kids being on the roster. The McCords were in town when Raiola announced he was visiting Lincoln. We do not know what was said between either party and Rhule, but the McCords left early and it was announced shortly thereafter that KM would not be in Lincoln for 2024. Rhule chose between a possible 3-4 year starter, and generational level talent (at least for NU), and a very talented 1 year guy. Since Rhule is trying to build a program, he chose the younger kid.
The X factor in this deal is Holgerson. It’s pretty clear that Satt was a placeholder at OC, and Rhule wanted DH last winter, but couldn’t reel him in. So he went with Thomas, who is a legit QB coach, with Satt as OC. Glenn had Dylan ready, but Satt’s tone deaf play calling was an easy solve for the better opposing Ds on the schedule.
So now NU has a very talented young QB with starting experience, plus an advanced offensive mind at OC. After 8 years of losing, I’ll take that along with 7-6 and a bowl win over whatever Kyle might have done, followed by another round of scrounging through the portal to find an 8-9 win QB.
 
That guy is scared to compete. Ran from competing with Will Howard. LOL. Ran from competing with a true freshman at Nebraska. Now appears to be running from competing to be a top draft pick. Rumors that he is appealing for an extra year at Syracuse rather then go in the draft.

Don't really know how next year's QB draft class is supposed to shake out, but THIS year's class QB class is hot garbage.

McCord should be tripping all over himself to declare.
 
I think NU beats ILL and one of USC/UCLA with McCord. For those with limited memory skills, neither the McCords nor the Raiolas were interested in both kids being on the roster. The McCords were in town when Raiola announced he was visiting Lincoln. We do not know what was said between either party and Rhule, but the McCords left early and it was announced shortly thereafter that KM would not be in Lincoln for 2024. Rhule chose between a possible 3-4 year starter, and generational level talent (at least for NU), and a very talented 1 year guy. Since Rhule is trying to build a program, he chose the younger kid.
The X factor in this deal is Holgerson. It’s pretty clear that Satt was a placeholder at OC, and Rhule wanted DH last winter, but couldn’t reel him in. So he went with Thomas, who is a legit QB coach, with Satt as OC. Glenn had Dylan ready, but Satt’s tone deaf play calling was an easy solve for the better opposing Ds on the schedule.
So now NU has a very talented young QB with starting experience, plus an advanced offensive mind at OC. After 8 years of losing, I’ll take that along with 7-6 and a bowl win over whatever Kyle might have done, followed by another round of scrounging through the portal to find an 8-9 win QB.
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I think it would have been more like 3 or 4 more wins. Like I said though, Leavitt was still in play. I think Raiola would have been 3rd string behind the young QB's Georgia and Ohio State have. So Dylan likely would have been available. And there's always the option to tamper with Arch Manning. I think there were plenty of better options than settling for a true freshman QB. But also like I said, things may end up working for the better as we were able to snag Dana for next year.

So you would just do the transfer route year after a year?
 
Raiola has to improve and has no excuses next season (not that I thought he was bad this year). We have a proven OC and lots of playmakers on this team for 25'. It's time to score points.
 
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Are you really comparing the offensive lines and skill position players of Nebraska to Ohio State or Georgia? You were comparing the accuracy of Dylan Raiola in the Nebraska offense versus Howard in the Ohio State offense or the Georgia quarterback in their offense. You have no idea what Raiola could have or would’ve accomplished in a similar situation.

Yep, DR throwing to their wideouts would make him look drastically different. It will be funny how DR will somehow be an accurate deep ball qb next year.
 
Seems like such a silly argument, because the only variable change is KM for DR in every game. That means the exact same plays are called at the exact same time by the exact same coaches in the exact same scenario in the exact same conditions. That would be a bajillion to one odds (about the same odds as BTF69 getting married — sorry, couldn’t resist).

An equal, and more likely chance is KM comes to NU and blows out a knee on his first play and we go 0-12. Or KM comes to NU and sets every single NCAA passing record and we go undefeated and win a NC.
 
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Needs to learn how to lead
Needs to toughen the F up
Needs to lose weight and gain muscle

Kid is actually not that athletic, aside from his ability to throw.

They will get him into shape, but doubt it helps him much.

The biggest thing to help him is some competition in the room..

I like the incoming portal QB to beat Raiola’s ass and take his job next year.

Raiola is 7-6, about as close to being a loser as you can get in the QB world.

I don’t like the kid and would prefer he left, but that is me.
 
Needs to learn how to lead
Needs to toughen the F up
Needs to lose weight and gain muscle

Kid is actually not that athletic, aside from his ability to throw.

They will get him into shape, but doubt it helps him much.

The biggest thing to help him is some competition in the room..

I like the incoming portal QB to beat Raiola’s ass and take his job next year.

Raiola is 7-6, about as close to being a loser as you can get in the QB world.

I don’t like the kid and would prefer he left, but that is me.
A scumbag like you not liking DR makes me like him even more. You are a pos so your judgment of a 19 yo doesn’t mean a thing. Hope your wife is ok after the pussy melt down you had after the bowl game.
 
Needs to learn how to lead
Needs to toughen the F up
Needs to lose weight and gain muscle

Kid is actually not that athletic, aside from his ability to throw.

They will get him into shape, but doubt it helps him much.

The biggest thing to help him is some competition in the room..

I like the incoming portal QB to beat Raiola’s ass and take his job next year.

Raiola is 7-6, about as close to being a loser as you can get in the QB world.

I don’t like the kid and would prefer he left, but that is me.
I think he has an NfL arm and he had a stellar first 4-5games. His last 8-9 games were a bit more average but even in those he showed some glimpses of what he can do in the future. He will start in the NFL one day. He needs to learn that art of sliding AFTER he passes the first down marker though. ; )
 
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Needs to learn how to lead
Needs to toughen the F up
Needs to lose weight and gain muscle

Kid is actually not that athletic, aside from his ability to throw.

They will get him into shape, but doubt it helps him much.

The biggest thing to help him is some competition in the room..

I like the incoming portal QB to beat Raiola’s ass and take his job next year.

Raiola is 7-6, about as close to being a loser as you can get in the QB world.

I don’t like the kid and would prefer he left, but that is me.
You would be a better poster if you didn’t hold back so much.
 
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Needs to learn how to lead
Needs to toughen the F up
Needs to lose weight and gain muscle

Kid is actually not that athletic, aside from his ability to throw.

They will get him into shape, but doubt it helps him much.

The biggest thing to help him is some competition in the room..

I like the incoming portal QB to beat Raiola’s ass and take his job next year.

Raiola is 7-6, about as close to being a loser as you can get in the QB world.

I don’t like the kid and would prefer he left, but that is me.
Blown away by this post… had to share it with my family tonight. My daughter said, and I quote, “The person who posted this probably looks like Tommy Boy.”

I am so proud of her.
 
Needs to learn how to lead
Needs to toughen the F up
Needs to lose weight and gain muscle

Kid is actually not that athletic, aside from his ability to throw.

They will get him into shape, but doubt it helps him much.

The biggest thing to help him is some competition in the room..

I like the incoming portal QB to beat Raiola’s ass and take his job next year.

Raiola is 7-6, about as close to being a loser as you can get in the QB world.

I don’t like the kid and would prefer he left, but that is me.
Awful post
 
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