I concur 100% Actually saw him at PBA when he was leaving Louisville. He was all smiles.
Akoy Agau transferring again.
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Yeah, a terrible team. They went 5-13 in league play. Maybe we can call that "sub par" or "not up to snuff" or "bad"...I call it terrible.
You are what your record says you are...14-18.
I hope the kid goes some where, lights it up, and makes the NBA....I just don't see it. His talent has been overrated his whole career.
Great point! These kids have friends everywhere! Social media also adds to the equation. Talked to Devonte Graham at the spring game. He was in Lincoln hanging with 4 or 5 Husker players. He was wearing Jayhawks t-shirt though.
My opinion is it has more to do with numbers. If you aren't playing in basketball, there is a chance you need to transfer to see the court.
5 starters of 13 scholarship players in basketball 38% are starters. Most teams will go 7 to 8 deep minimum in their rotations, more true freshman play. Typically 50-70% of your scholarship players are seeing decent playing time
22 of 85 for football 26% are starters. 40 of 85 may see decent playing time, a good number of true freshman never see the field, less than 50% of your scholarship players are getting significant playing time.
In football, there are more players, like you, who aren't seeing the field in year 1. In basketball, not so much.
5 starters of 13 scholarship players in basketball 38% are starters. Most teams will go 7 to 8 deep minimum in their rotations, more true freshman play. Typically 50-70% of your scholarship players are seeing decent playing time
22 of 85 for football 26% are starters. 40 of 85 may see decent playing time, a good number of true freshman never see the field, less than 50% of your scholarship players are getting significant playing time.
In football, there are more players, like you, who aren't seeing the field in year 1. In basketball, not so much.
I don't think anybody is expecting him to save the program if he jumps on board. But, he will provide another presence down low and is a very good FT shooter for a big man. He could provide us 10-15 minutes a game. I hope both parties are interested.
What would you call a 12-19 team?
He isn't going to go to the NBA. I don't expect him to come here and light it up and become a lottery pick or even get drafted. He has the potential to give a team close to 10/10 a game. The trainwreck team in Lincoln could use a guy like that right now who can provide minutes and depth, and give Jordy T another legit body to practice against.
Has he been overrated? Probably. What about Palmer (also a 4*), Gill (4*), and Copeland (5*)? Look at their college stats and compare.
- Young
- Injured
- Tired
- Unlucky in close games
- Screwed by the refs
- Good shooters who just don't make enough shots
How about uninterested down the stretch. No confidence in your teammates or coaches which leads to ****poor team chemistry.
And Georgetown's problems were due to what? They got rid of Daddy's kid. What's our excuse?
Thanks! I don't watch hardly any NBA, is it good basketball in the NBA right now? I ask because I look at this mock draft and including Patton at #15 all of these picks in the top 15 are Freshmen, and the 1 International guy is 19. Is is just a league of maybe two dozen super-stars and a lot of dudes with potential?
That's probably a good description IMO. With a 24 second shot clock it's all about the superstars. I like this time of the year with the playoffs. Isiah Thomas and the way he has been playing (like last night) had been a great story. James Harden has been almost unguardable. But it will come down to the Warriors and Cavs again.
The trend in the draft I think will continue to be guys with 1 year in college and international. ESPN's mock draft has mostly the same names, and of the 14 lottery picks, 13 are freshmen and 1 is international.
Justin Patton had everything to lose by coming back. The only reason to come back to school is if you won't be a first rounder. The longer you stay in college, the more the scouts start to pick your game apart. Like it or not, there is a stigma against the players who stay in college too long by the NBA teams. The longer you stay, the lower your stock goes. Lonzo Ball is going to potentially go 2nd or 3rd, and he averaged 14 points a game (not even close to the top 100 in college this past season).
White averaged 18 points a game, and he might get drafted, but his chances of being anything other than a bench player IMO are slim. But that's still good money. A 3rd year player under the current agreement means $1 million a year for the NBA minimum.
Ok, let me get this straight. You are happy to see an undersized 6'7 PF leave who averaged 10 PPG & 7 RPG, with a limited jump shot game and are happy to replace him with an undersized 6'8 PF who averaged 4.5 PPG & 4.3 RPG and carries some of the same limitations as Morrow? I guess he does have 2 things going for him. He has made 3 3 pointers in his career and is a better free throw shooter.
That team was competitive in virtually every game until the media/fans started questioning the Miles's future.
lmao you're blaming the fans and the media? The same media that loves Tim Miles because he always gives a great quote and he tweets? The fans that pack the arena even though our team has lost to Samford and Incarnate Word? The only person to blame for our lack of success is Tim Miles.
I'm not sure if you're serious, but if so that's a laughable statement. Nobody in the local media engaged in the least bit of speculation about Miles getting fired until NU started dropping games in blowout fashion, and then got bounced in the bunny round of the Big Ten tournament.
If Miles gets the ax next year, it will be because it was his 4th losing season in a row, he can't keep a roster together and the program is showing no progress. It won't have one damn thing to do with what the big meanie fans say about him on message boards, or because the media asks questions about why his contract isn't being extended.
I wasn't happy that Morrow and Jacobsen left and we need big bodies to fill the void caused by Morrow and Jacobsen leaving until we can recruit some more bigs. Agau would help us. Period. Spin it any way you want.
This isn't about being happy about the trade, but those two guys are gone now. The team has to find some able-bodied guys now and considering one was from omaha, the possibility that he may want to come home is a bonus. Do I think he's the answer to all problems? Nope. But I'd take him considering the forward losses.
Yes, that is and likely always will be the reason most basketball players transfer. I was just speculating as to why there seems to be such an upward trend in transfers recently, and I think having connections to players and coaches at different programs has reduced the inertia that tended to keep players at one school. The sport just doesn't have much of a four-year feel to it anymore, despite the relatively small number of players who really have a shot at the NBA.
You must forgive him...he also tried to argue McVeigh>>>>Andrew White. To be fair...we were totally competitive in the Gardner Webb game. We only lost by 8 points.
Yes, and after NU beat Penn State and Ohio State in February, there was almost no talk in the media of Miles not being back next year. At that point in the season, he seemed to be a lock to get at least one more year at NU. Then the Huskers proceeded to get thumped by 16 at MSU, by 16 at home vs. Illinois, by 15 at Minnesota, and by 36 at home against Michigan.
So the notion that the team was "competitive in virtually every game" until there was a cloud over Miles' job status is nothing more than a completely false, sanctimonious finger-wagging at the big meanie fans who pick on Poor Li'l Timmy.
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I would definitely take him considering we have a big need, but I was just trying to wrap my head around his logic considering the fact he spent hundreds of posts trying to tell us that Morrow wasn't that good and that he wasn't really a big loss, when, in reality, he was.
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You said ...... nevermind. It's exhausting pointing out how often you contradict yourself. Carry on.
My point is that in college basketball if you aren't playing early at a school, you will probably not ever play significant minutes at that school. The writing is on the wall at an earlier time in the player's career. In football, there is time to develop during the first couple of years and still play significant minutes later in your career.
Secondly the use of the redshirt is less common in basketball which allows for a player to use the redshirt during the transfer year.
There are just as many relationships and connections in football. Look at the 7 on 7 teams across the country, and the number of camps that those teams will go to as a group. I think the reason kids transfer so much in basketball is simple opportunity.
I agree that the sport has a less than 4 year feel to it. I believe that is about leaving early though. There are 60 players drafted and I believe almost 100 players have declared early for the draft.
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I did NOT say he "wasn't a big loss". That kind of twisting of my words was why I continued to respond to the attacks on me. His loss became even bigger when Jacobsen followed his lead. Some people on here wanted to make him out to be an All-American and I pointed out his lack of certain skills. Ed has limitations on both of the ends of the floor and that is fact.
What's so tough? I said he was a good player. Just not as good as some make him out to be. I also said we would miss him in his role. For a team with a scarcity of post players, of course we needed him. I have been consistent on that and haven't contradicted myself once.
To make absolutely certain I do not "twist your words," here's a direct quote with no further comment from me:
"IF Watson would leave then that's a problem. 2 guys leaving for playing time and 1 guy leaving because he's losing minutes at the 5 and thinks he can play the 3 or 4 even though he can't dribble or shoot...well that's different. Basically Ed is David Rivers except David was a better defender and could shoot it and dribble it a little bit."
And a link to the thread it's taken from.
I know you guys are up in arms and want to defend Ed. That's fine and I understand that but exactly where did I say "Ed is a bad player". Ed was a good ;player IN HIS ROLE. David Rivers became a good player his senior year IN HIS ROLE which was very similar to Ed's. Rebound. Put the ball back if you get it, set screens and try to defend bigger guys in the paint. Yeah I know Ed averaged more points but I bet he also had his shot blocked more than Rivers. Rivers kicked the ball out most of the time if he got a rebound. The problem is that one of the reasons Ed gave for transferring was that he wants to play the 3 or 4 and develop his perimeter game for the NBA. My point was that Ed is what he is, a good energy rebounder and around the rim offensive guy. He has trouble against many of the B1G post players that are bigger than him on both ends of the floor because of his size. IF he could bury 3s or maybe dribble around guys then his size wouldn't be as large of an issue but teams only had to defend him on the perimeter from the standpoint of helping when he screened for one of our shooters. That doesn't mean we won't miss him. He did what he could given the shortcomings of his game and it will make me sick to see him in anything other than a Husker uni but that was his choice (a bad one IMO).
Prolly time to call it good on Nebrasketball for awhile.
I didn't comment on what you said, I only posted it word-for-word. If you don't think your exact words imply that Morrow was not a big loss or not that good of a player, why does it require a War and Peace-like response?
War and Peace? Really. Your re-posting of that quote obviously implied that I called a Ed a " bad player". Spin it how you want.
I didn't imply or spin anything - I just posted your exact quote with no accompanying comment whatsoever.
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I admit I may be sensitized to respond after having been criticized by a half dozen posters for a week or two on this subject.
Its all good.David Rivers 4.2 and 4.3. As a senior. Morrow is so much more of a player than Rivers, you've lost credibility.
Ed Morrow as a sophomore was 9.4 and 7.5.
Morrow is gone. He was a nice player and likely would have had a nice next couple of seasons had he stuck around. Time to move on.
I admit my comparison was not the best and conceded that Morrow was more productive offensively than Rivers. I stand by the concept that their roles were very similar.
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