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Praying for those innocent people. Hope they can somehow find a solution to defend themselves.
 
Makes Harbaugh's whining about the ref's Saturday look even more ridiculous
 
Sounds like a knife attack is what they are leaning toward.
 
While you're all gloating and cracking jokes about something awful like this happening, why don't you spend a little time theorizing about why the guy did such a piss-poor job of managing to kill anyone...
 
While you're all gloating and cracking jokes about something awful like this happening, why don't you spend a little time theorizing about why the guy did such a piss-poor job of managing to kill anyone...
All? Not even close. Some leap you came up with there.
 
While you're all gloating and cracking jokes about something awful like this happening, why don't you spend a little time theorizing about why the guy did such a piss-poor job of managing to kill anyone...
And just maybe the current laws worked to not enable him to get a gun. Like I say every single time, enforce the laws on the books before the BS crocodile tears about making more laws they refuse to enforce
 
And just maybe the current laws worked to not enable him to get a gun. Like I say every single time, enforce the laws on the books before the BS crocodile tears about making more laws they refuse to enforce

I agree here. I think this incident highlights where the focus should be......on the person committing the crime as opposed to the weapon used. It is fairly obvious criminals will find a way no matter what laws there are in place.
 
I agree here. I think this incident highlights where the focus should be......on the person committing the crime as opposed to the weapon used. It is fairly obvious criminals will find a way no matter what laws there are in place.
Not really my point. They need to actually severely punish the scum commiting gun crime, and anyone supplying them with the guns.
No gang-bangers let off after 6 months. No careless gun owners put on "probation". Start having a backbone and enforcing the laws already on the books. There is no such thing as a "gun show loophole". They need to simply stop turning a blind eye, and that has gotten worse under the current administration (who like to control the weak by telling them the opposite)
 
Nobody is gloating. We're sick of this crap and think there's some pretty simple steps to take going forward to minimize the chances of this happening again, but we get labeled racist for even suggesting it, and we're sick of it.
My issue with that is the math doesn't back it up. That's not an evidence-based solution, it's an emotion.

Ok, you've got ONE guy from Somalia. So let's say we ban Somalis. Then what do you do about all the crazyass kids from right here in the U.S. who hauled off and killed a bunch of people? They're WAY out in front of Somalis or any other nationality.

Killing each other is as American as apple pie. I'm supposed to not want any new laws to stop our own citizens from doing it, but I should want new laws to stop people who were born in another country from doing it?
 
And just maybe the current laws worked to not enable him to get a gun. Like I say every single time, enforce the laws on the books before the BS crocodile tears about making more laws they refuse to enforce
I'll be curious to see what comes out on that, whether he'd tried to buy but got denied or didn't like the waiting period or what. You'll get no argument from me on wanting enforcement on existing laws.

A lot of the problem is they try to pass some goofy, little measure that has no practical benefit because they know they can't get any real measures through. So you get dumb crap like arguing over whether a fore grip should be legal and passing that then repealing it later. Meanwhile no progress has been made about actually making it hard for crazy people and criminals from being able to buy.
 
I'll be curious to see what comes out on that, whether he'd tried to buy but got denied or didn't like the waiting period or what. You'll get no argument from me on wanting enforcement on existing laws.

A lot of the problem is they try to pass some goofy, little measure that has no practical benefit because they know they can't get any real measures through. So you get dumb crap like arguing over whether a fore grip should be legal and passing that then repealing it later. Meanwhile no progress has been made about actually making it hard for crazy people and criminals from being able to buy.
Exactly. I could give 2 shits about their bullshit "scary guns" spook stories. Until someone calls this administration out for their willingness to keep putting illegal firearms in criminals hands, that's what makes their crocodile tears so divisive.
 
Not really my point. They need to actually severely punish the scum commiting gun crime, and anyone supplying them with the guns.
No gang-bangers let off after 6 months. No careless gun owners put on "probation". Start having a backbone and enforcing the laws already on the books. There is no such thing as a "gun show loophole". They need to simply stop turning a blind eye, and that has gotten worse under the current administration (who like to control the weak by telling them the opposite)
This I can totally get behind. I'm also watching with great interest when shops or manufacturers get sued. They way it's all set up right now, I think that's the only way you really get stringent checks at the point of sale is if the shop fears being sued into oblivion if they don't really do their homework up front.

I followed the LJS for a while, it blew my mind the number of reports they'd have of somebody's gun being stolen out of their car. What difference should it make whether a person is on a list if they know people are dumb enough to just keep one in the car at all times? It's just way too cheap and easy to get a gun illegally, because they're everywhere.
 
Exactly. I could give 2 shits about their bullshit "scary guns" spook stories. Until someone calls this administration out for their willingness to keep putting illegal firearms in criminals hands, that's what makes their crocodile tears so divisive.
What's the administration gonna do about it though? It's a state-by-state issue. Here in IL the laws are tougher than many states, but what the cops find is the guns they're confiscating originate in Indiana or Wisconsin where it's easier to get them.
 
I'll be curious to see what comes out on that, whether he'd tried to buy but got denied or didn't like the waiting period or what. You'll get no argument from me on wanting enforcement on existing laws.

A lot of the problem is they try to pass some goofy, little measure that has no practical benefit because they know they can't get any real measures through. So you get dumb crap like arguing over whether a fore grip should be legal and passing that then repealing it later. Meanwhile no progress has been made about actually making it hard for crazy people and criminals from being able to buy.

One was born here the other migrated...it's really not that hard to understand...one has rights under our Constitution, the other doesn't. Before they came here.....so we should just let people come here and committ terrorist acts or crimes because our citizens do....cmon .
 
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What's the administration gonna do about it though? It's a state-by-state issue. Here in IL the laws are tougher than many states, but what the cops find is the guns they're confiscating originate in Indiana or Wisconsin where it's easier to get them.
Stop crying and force the current laws to be enforced. Cut federal programs to those states they think are the problem, if they refuse to enforce said laws. If they had really wanted to stop those guns coming in, they could have by now.
No amount of feel-good new laws and magic unicorn farts are going to change things, until they get tough on current gun crime.
 
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