AAU

[redwine65]

Think NU got kicked out of the aau cause they couldn't count the off campus hospitals like Omaha, but then I heard our new president say something about tieing the hospitals together will some computer systems...so a I suppose to figure the "administrations" of all hospitals of the needs to be done on campus? to get NU back in the aau?

 

[RedCap]

Supposedly the new president was going to work on getting Nebraska back in the AAU but I haven't seen any updates on the status of that effort IF it is actually happening.

By the way, the University of Michigan played a key role in getting Nebraska kicked out.

 

[Sodakred]

Think NU got kicked out of the aau cause they couldn't count the off campus hospitals like Omaha, but then I heard our new president say something about tieing the hospitals together will some computer systems...so a I suppose to figure the "administrations" of all hospitals of the needs to be done on campus? to get NU back in the aau?

Other hospitals? What other hospitals than the one at UNMC are relevant?

But UNMC is much more than a hospital. It includes “Colleges of Allied Health Professions, Dentistry, Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, and Public Health, as well as the Munroe-Meyer Institute for Genetics & Rehabilitation and the Eppley Institute for Research in Cancer & Allied Diseases. ” Those programs are major research units and are excluded from UNL reporting for potential AAU research ranking purposes.

Here was a NU description of the AAU “problem” in 2023: “Now Nebraska is working on a plan that will include reporting research expenditures from UNL, its flagship campus in Lincoln, in tandem with the University of Nebraska Medical Center located in Omaha. Currently, Carter said, Nebraska ranks 117th nationally for federal research and development dollars. But changing the organizational structure to combine R&D reporting would bump Nebraska to 66th.”

I assume the devil is in the details or Carter’s plan would have been adopted.

 

[RedCap]

UNMC is much more than a hospital. It includes “Colleges of Allied Health Professions, Dentistry, Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, and Public Health, as well as the Munroe-Meyer Institute for Genetics & Rehabilitation and the Eppley Institute for Research in Cancer & Allied Diseases. ” Those programs are major research units.

Here was a NU description of the AAU “problem” in 2023: “Now Nebraska is working on a plan that will include reporting research expenditures from UNL, its flagship campus in Lincoln, in tandem with the University of Nebraska Medical Center located in Omaha. Currently, Carter said, Nebraska ranks 117th nationally for federal research and development dollars. But changing the organizational structure to combine R&D reporting would bump Nebraska to 66th.”

Any idea of the timetable for those reporting changes and the reapplication for AAU status?

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Any idea of the timetable for those reporting changes and the reapplication for AAU status?

Wisky and bitchigan will do everything in their power to keep NU from gaining AAU status

 

[Sodakred]

Wisky and bitchigan will do everything in their power to keep NU from gaining AAU status

University administrations turn over frequently. I doubt new candidates for UW and UM Presidencies will swear to keep UNL out of AAU.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

University administrations turn over frequently. I doubt new candidates for UW and UM Presidencies will swear to keep UNL out of AAU.

We’ll see… I think it’s quite systemic to the core of these elites and they love to turn their nose up to “lesser” schools

 

[redwine65]

Other hospitals? What other hospitals than the one at UNMC are relevant?

But UNMC is much more than a hospital. It includes “Colleges of Allied Health Professions, Dentistry, Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, and Public Health, as well as the Munroe-Meyer Institute for Genetics & Rehabilitation and the Eppley Institute for Research in Cancer & Allied Diseases. ” Those programs are major research units and are excluded from UNL reporting for potential AAU research ranking purposes.

Here was a NU description of the AAU “problem” in 2023: “Now Nebraska is working on a plan that will include reporting research expenditures from UNL, its flagship campus in Lincoln, in tandem with the University of Nebraska Medical Center located in Omaha. Currently, Carter said, Nebraska ranks 117th nationally for federal research and development dollars. But changing the organizational structure to combine R&D reporting would bump Nebraska to 66th.”

I assume the devil is in the details or Carter’s plan would have been adopted.

I don't really know I thought the university of Nebraska medical system was a few places..but thanks for the info
hearing other teams like in the acc and big 12 talk about aau I figured might be a good idea to have that in the bag of tools.
I'm not sure why we lost if considering we was in the aau pretty much longer or the same time as other big 10 schools, I hear a michigan guy wanted to kick us out but I wonder if we seen that coming or were dropping the ball on membership...I read the article where pearl men said it cost us too much to stay in, but hopefully it don't cost us to stay out.

then again if it all goes mini nfl will aau matter?

 

[bama_husker]

If you combine UNMC and UNL research funding, they are similar to other near AAU institutions like NC State, UGA, Kentucky, V-Tech and Cincinnati. Academically the undergrad program would be below all these except Kentucky. I guess it's possible they could reaquire AAU status, but it doesn't seem easy.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

Wisky and bitchigan will do everything in their power to keep NU from gaining AAU status

Makes you question why NU is even in the conference, other than money of course.

 

[king_kong_]

who cares

time to win football games

 

[ckriley]

Makes you question why NU is even in the conference, other than money of course.

And stability. But NU has to start winning games. That was the only reason they were invited. The B1G was seen as the Big 2 and Little 8 for years. Nebraska was supposed to help give the conference a competitive edge.

That hasn't happened.

So peripheral stuff like AAU status has been magnified. In reality, no one gives a shit about AAU membership. They just care about wins. If AAU was that important, NU would have been booted from the conference the moment it lost its status, especially seeing as how the team hasn't been winning.

If/when Nebraska starts winning again, none of this stuff will matter.

 

[RedCap]

I always thought AAU was more about research than anything else.

 

[bama_husker]

who cares

time to win football games

As long as the Big 10 doesn't care, I agree.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

And stability. But NU has to start winning games. That was the only reason they were invited. The B1G was seen as the Big 2 and Little 8 for years. Nebraska was supposed to help give the conference a competitive edge.

That hasn't happened.

So peripheral stuff like AAU status has been magnified. In reality, no one gives a shit about AAU membership. They just care about wins. If AAU was that important, NU would have been booted from the conference the moment it lost its status, especially seeing as how the team hasn't been winning.

If/when Nebraska starts winning again, none of this stuff will matter.

I agree winning will help, but I doubt NU will ever be treated as anything more than the red headed stepchild.

 

[Sodakred]

Makes you question why NU is even in the conference, other than money of course.

We were AAU members when we were invited to the B1G.

FYI, I have a lot of admin experience at major universities including AAU members U of AZ and UC Santa Barbara. While AAU membership isn’t insignificant, I can assure you most universities are more concerned about identifying peers. While UW and UM were considered leaders of booting us from AAU you can bet they consider a precious few of current AAU members to be their peers. When I was involved in the U of A joining the PAC, Stanford and Cal faculty were opposed to the U of A as they didn’t consider them peers, even though U of A was in the AAU.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

We were AAU members when we were invited to the B1G. FYI, I have a lot of admin experience at major universities including AAU members U of AZ and UC Santa Barbara. While AAU membership isn’t insignificant, I can assure you most universities are more concerned about identifying peers. While UW and UM were considered leaders of booting us from AAU you can bet they consider a precious few of current AAU members to be their peers. When I was involved in U of A joining the PAC, Stanford and Cal faculty were opposed as they didn’t consider them peers, even though U of A was in the AAU.

Sounds like high school drama. It’s interesting that Iowa and Oregon are part of the AAU when their academic institutions are closer in standing to NU than the other schools.

 

[redwine65]

who cares

time to win football games

someone in the front office in Lincoln figured out you need a passing qb (arm) if your gonna run a passing offense...since we left the run offense with the dan and buck fumble show. it took awhile but I think they figured it out.
I'm just trying to get a clue on the outlook of the aau bar combined with the mini nfl..and how them 2 things work..is bama aau?

 

[king_kong_]

someone in the front office in Lincoln figured out you need a passing qb (arm) if your gonna run a passing offense...since we left the run offense with the dan and buck fumble show. it took awhile but I think they figured it out.
I'm just trying to get a clue on the outlook of the aau bar combined with the mini nfl..and how them 2 things work..is bama aau?

nobody making football decisions cares about the aau

its for dweebs

 

[redwine65]

nobody making football decisions cares about the aau

its for dweebs

I figured they need to wins games was obvious..
I'll address that next time

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Is there any chance this can affect UNL’s horrendous football or tuition rates in a positive way whatsoever?

If not, then who gives a sh!t?

 

[RedCap]

Is there any chance this can affect UNL’s horrendous football or tuition rates in a positive way whatsoever?

If not, then who gives a sh!t?

Some people also care about academics and research dollars which means potential jobs and growth for the state of Nebraska.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Is there any chance this can affect UNL’s horrendous football or tuition rates in a positive way whatsoever?

If not, then who gives a sh!t?

No, but I hear your current employer will give you a pay bump if you graduated from a AAU school.

 

[redwine65]

Is there any chance this can affect UNL’s horrendous football or tuition rates in a positive way whatsoever?

If not, then who gives a sh!t?

I care as far as good standing in the big, and grant money. thats why I asked

 

[Wasker77]

Supposedly the new president was going to work on getting Nebraska back in the AAU but I haven't seen any updates on the status of that effort IF it is actually happening.

By the way, the University of Michigan played a key role in getting Nebraska kicked out.

I was in Cape May, NJ this past weekend for a wedding. While there I was talking to one of our friends who lives in Omaha and is very well connected. He has been on multiple boards including one for an Omaha hospital and he knows the new president quite well. I brought up AAU and this friend thinks the new president will get Nebraska back in by adding the Medical Center to UNL.

 

[ADV1]

I always thought AAU was more about research than anything else.

That was my understanding as well... and in addition to the Med Center, I believe AAU wouldn't accept any credits for research in agriculture. I had always heard that had Agriculture or Med Center been counted NU wouldn't have been kicked out...

 

[Wasker77]

That was my understanding as well... and in addition to the Med Center, I believe AAU wouldn't accept any credits for research in agriculture. I had always heard that had Agriculture or Med Center been counted NU wouldn't have been kicked out...

Per my friend from Omaha who is very well connected, lack of research was most definitely a factor in UNL get kicked out of the AAU.

 

[redwine65]

Per my friend from Omaha who is very well connected, lack of research was most definitely a factor in UNL get kicked out of the AAU.

which is weird cause we are 1 of only 14 University-Affiliated Center Labratories,
where there are like 80 aau

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[HuskerOH]

I agree winning will help, but I doubt NU will ever be treated as anything more than the red headed stepchild.

Ask PSU, they know the snub...