You might want to read Bill Parcells" book about the Belicheck hire.
The Patriots weren't exactly hiring the head coach of the Browns. Although, he brings up an interesting point.
A little about Riley - from an Outsider
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The Patriots weren't exactly hiring the head coach of the Browns. Although, he brings up an interesting point.
I agree with this completely. We have overestimated what he did at OSU, thinking that since he showed modest success there he will light it up here. Or maybe not thinking, but hoping... either way, it seems as though we were wrong. And each game he has left on the schedule will determine whether he still gets time to show himself to be a good coach or to show himself the door.
And yes, it was wishful thinking to believe he could be on the level of Bill Snyder. I still want him to win the west this year, and if he does that, he still deserves to be our coach imo. But if he doesn’t and we make a change, games like NIU were the ones that sealed his fate.
Fans want to believe and feel their support somehow makes the coach - coach better. I know I was there with Callahan, I supported Pelini, up until the time when it was clear both coaches were not cutting it. Now I believe it is important to have your expectations grounded and look at things critically and reasonably. Does that make me a bad fan, maybe so but I also do not jump off the bridge when the team gets killed as Some do because they thought we were going undefeated this year.
Riley can still make it here he has some very good coaching qualities, that does not mean the hire was not flawed imo it was. Obviously some people running NU thought so to. I do not hope for failure but the window for success is closing rather quickly
Where would he be without the golden boy? Success in the NFL is driven heavily by the QB skill level.
I agree with this. I'm not a Riley guy. The worst thing for the program though is if they stay stagnant and win 6 games. I'm hoping Riley blows it and goes 4-8 or makes it obvious he's turning things around and pulls out 8 wins. We need decisive results one way or the other.
A lot of truth here. I hope for a better latter half of the season. To look at this strategically, Riley can be considered a transition coach. There is better young talent on our roster than there was three years ago. Riley is in on some very good recruits and is swinging for the fences on others. He has address asst coaching deficiencies. It's possible that the new defense will be more B1G ready than Banker's, but that question will be answered in the next two weeks.
At what point does playing musical coaches truly damage the program? Solich got 6 years and was canned after a season that we would all take now in a heartbeat. Cally brough in good talent, but lost the team with poorly played D. Pelini was kind of a repeat of Solich, just one notch down with a bad temper. And our decay rate for the coaching hotseat has slipped to 2 years a few games.
When does NU go from being a place that has challenges in terms of recruiting, but a place where a coach can win, to a place where coaching prospects become of the mind that it's a program that doesn't allow for the pieces to get in place to win?
The coaches I listed did great in their last 14 conference games and ended up being crap at their new gig. You're the one who brought up a very specific metric that's completely meaningless, but you thought it actually meant something in terms of how successful a coach will or won't be at their new gig.
But but but all the other coaches I listed did so well their last 14 conference games. How did they not succeed at their new gig? @Phillipe specifically chose 14 games because it fit his agenda. He didn't even use the full last 2 seasons at OSU. He definitely couldn't use the last 3 conference seasons.
I agree, it's painfully obvious. The level of stick your head in the sand ignorance on this board is unbelievable. It seems many have the attitude if you don't support the coach you are not a "true fan" which is complete horse manure.
Really, you see a coach completely floundering after multiple years at that school as meaningless? 2-12 is catastrophic. Coupled with three losing seasons out of five. And a loss to a 9 loss FCS school. Yup, meaningless.
I'll make it simple. Doing horribly to the point where you should be fired in your most recent tenure as coach should not get you hired at a program that has pretty much NEVER been as bad as you were doing.
And that is pretty much why the guy that hired him is currently unemployed.
