A Big 12 Team Won the SEC, A Pac 12 Team Won the B1G

[king_kong_]

another Pac 12 team won the Big 12 and an AAC team won the ACC regular season

pretty interesting

perhaps the Pac 12 was the best P5 conference after all, and the "top 2" should stop pounding their chests about how difficult their leagues really are

 

[RedMyMind]

another Pac 12 team won the Big 12 and an AAC team won the ACC regular season

pretty interesting

perhaps the Pac 12 was the best P5 conference after all, and the "top 2" should stop pounding their chests about how difficult their leagues really are

Don't you suck off the SEC?

 

[king_kong_]

Don't you suck off the SEC?

the SEC has the best players, as evidenced by their draft production

the SEC has the most programs to have won a national title, also

best players, best teams, best coaches = best conference

none of the above can really be argued

 

[RedMyMind]

the SEC has the best players, as evidenced by their draft production

the SEC has the most programs to have won a national title, also

best players, best teams, best coaches = best conference

none of the above can really be argued

But not the hardest?

 

[king_kong_]

But not the hardest?

also the hardest

but clearly not impossible since a Big 12 team just ran roughshod through it

however, I suspect the Big 12 is much better than everyone here wants to give it credit for

 

[Huskers123456]

also the hardest

but clearly not impossible since a Big 12 team just ran roughshod through it

however, I suspect the Big 12 is much better than everyone here wants to give it credit for

Why the playoffs are going to be so awesome. Won't be able to judge off 1 year alone, but the answers will be obvious over time.

 

[Hford]

The big 2 leagues added Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Oregon, Washington, and UCLA. We manhandled a team that tied for 1st in the current Big XII.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

also the hardest

but clearly not impossible since a Big 12 team just ran roughshod through it

however, I suspect the Big 12 is much better than everyone here wants to give it credit for

They lost handily to Georgia, an SEC team, they did not run roughshod.

 

[scarletred]

another Pac 12 team won the Big 12 and an AAC team won the ACC regular season

pretty interesting

perhaps the Pac 12 was the best P5 conference after all, and the "top 2" should stop pounding their chests about how difficult their leagues really are

Did it take you the weekend and two days figuring that one out. Knew that Sunday morning.

 

[king_kong_]

The big 2 leagues added Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Oregon, Washington, and UCLA. We manhandled a team that tied for 1st in the current Big XII.

it was more of an ambush than a manhandling if we're being honest.

 

[Bruce1981]

I could have sworn the CCG haven't been played yet. At least you aren't jinxing the Huskers with this again......clown

 

[king_kong_]

They lost handily to Georgia, an SEC team, they did not run roughshod.

true

Oregon walked through the B1G like a hot knife through butter

 

[king_kong_]

I could have sworn the CCG haven't been played yet. At least you aren't jinxing the Huskers with this again......clown

perhaps you missed this part of my OP:

regular season

 

[RedMyMind]

perhaps you missed this part of my OP:

Remember when Iowa went 12-0 in the regular season?

 

[scarletred]

Remember when Iowa went 12-0 in the regular season?

Which has nothing to do with thread..

 

[king_kong_]

Remember when Iowa went 12-0 in the regular season?

sure do

 

[ckriley]

true

Oregon walked through the B1G like a hot knife through butter

Hardly. Oregon looked pedestrian a few times this season. Most recently against Wisconsin. A team Nebraska beat handily.

Still, though. It is true that Texas and Oregon ended the regular season atop their respective conferences. It is also true that Texas and Oregon were stacked this year and would have finished atop literally any conference this year.

 

[RedMyMind]

Which has nothing to do with thread..

because regular season means nothing if one faceplants like Iowa did in 2015

 

[Bruce1981]

perhaps you missed this part of my OP:

I'll take what is college basketball for 500, Alex

 

[scarletred]

because regular season means nothing if one faceplants like Iowa did in 2015

It’s about changing conferences and being seated #1.

Do ya follow!

 

[RedMyMind]

It’s about changing conferences and being seated #1.

Do ya follow!

yes and the whole argument is crap.
PAC12 may have been the best last year but that is all one can glean from it

 

[king_kong_]

because regular season means nothing if one faceplants like Iowa did in 2015

I thought it was interesting because all the P2 chest thumpers here look down their nose at the Pac 12 and Big 12

and now they're looking up at teams from those leagues that have come in and finished the regular season atop their respective standings

 

[redwine65]

not sure texas beats the dawgs, ducks should beat indianna, but if wisconson had a shot who knows

 

[king_kong_]

yes and the whole argument is crap.
PAC12 may have been the best last year but that is all one can glean from it

one can also glean the B1G and SEC are not as strong as those fans (and our apologists) would like to believe

 

[RedMyMind]

one can also glean the B1G and SEC are not as strong as those fans would like to believe

We will have to wait until the post season concludes

 

[king_kong_]

We will have to wait until the post season concludes

players will opt out in bowl games
coaches will not coach in bowl games
playoffs are a very small sample size

the regular season is the best measure of a conference's strength and what used to be a hypothetical argument now has actual data points

it's interesting IMO

 

[RBigredMax]

We will have to wait until the post season concludes

As of now the B1G are the national champs. Anxious to see how it goes in this years playoff.

 

[scarletred]

We will have to wait until the post season concludes

You’re missing the point what Top gun is referring to?

 

[king_kong_]

You’re missing the point what Top gun is referring to?

no, he's just incapable of agreeing with anything I say because I trigger him to Pluto

 

[RedMyMind]

You’re missing the point what Top gun is referring to?

that he's bringing up a very narrow set of data points to prove some weird point?
haven't seen that done before...

 

[RedMyMind]

no, he's just incapable of agreeing with anything I say because I trigger him to Pluto

Yes, how dare anyone challenge your logic

 

[king_kong_]

Yes, how dare anyone challenge your logic

I don’t see any challenge from you

Just passive aggressive quips, as usual

It’s fine if you still believe the P2 to be head and shoulders above the others despite this new and relevant information

 

[RedMyMind]

I don’t see any challenge from you

Just passive aggressive quips, as usual

It’s fine if you still believe the P2 to be head and shoulders above the others despite this new and relevant information

You said that the PAC12 was perhaps the best conference "after all".
What years do you believe they were the best conference?

 

[king_kong_]

You said that the PAC12 was perhaps the best conference "after all".
What years do you believe they were the best conference?

2024 if it still existed

 

[RedMyMind]

2024 if it still existed

so zero years.
stellar

 

[king_kong_]

so zero years.
stellar

The Pac 12 produced 2 power conference regular season champs this year

The B1G and SEC combined for zero

 

[RedMyMind]

The Pac 12 produced 2 power conference regular season champs this year

The B1G and SEC combined for zero

Oregon and Arizona State aren't in the PAC12 and Texas isn't in the Big12

 

[king_kong_]

Oregon and Arizona State aren't in the PAC12 and Texas isn't in the Big12

Oregon isn’t in the Pac 12 but they are a Pac 12 team

Not a single person on the planet would refer to Oregon in 2024 as a “B1G program”

I don’t expect you to understand this extremely obvious and straight forward thinking.

You are probably too stoned.

 

[RedMyMind]

Oregon isn’t in the Pac 12 but they are a Pac 12 team

Not a single person on the planet would refer to Oregon in 2024 as a “B1G program”

I don’t expect you to understand this extremely obvious and straight forward thinking.

You are probably too stoned.

How long does the PAC get to take credit for "producing" their former teams?

 

[king_kong_]

How long does the PAC get to take credit for "producing" their former teams?

Has Oregon received a single penny of its HALF share of the B1G money yet?

I don’t think so.

That’s how long.

Starting in ‘25 these programs will belong to their new leagues.