your posting history suggests otherwise.No I'm just not stupid....bro.
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your posting history suggests otherwise.No I'm just not stupid....bro.
If he's not going to play with a sense of urgency on 3rd downs at least, I'm ok with letting him sit. He's done it several times this year either running out of bounds early, falling down in front of a defender, or not throwing a block or even getting in the way of a defender when he had the opportunity to. What the heck did he put all that weight on if he's not going to use it?I find his play this season somewhat perplexing too regardless of today’s stats. I actually noticed it last season too, but attributed it to his injury. Right now, I just think it is who he is: incredibly talented showing flashes of greatness while also flashes of poor decision making and afraid to make a mistake. Couple that with play selection that doesn’t always emphasize his strengths and here we are. If I recall he was injured his Senior year of high school, so you have that factor —he is still somewhat playing catch-up. I’m not sure benching him as a means of sending a message to him to “shape up” would do anything at all. He needs to keep playing football and then if he just isn’t progressing, then reassess. I’m all for letting other QB’s play but you have to be careful there too because they’ll have their own learning curve to deal with. GBR.
how many penalties last week?
improvement isn't linear.
Maybe, maybe not. But if our team would have panicked like you did last night we’d have lost by 3 touchdowns. Bro.
If you want to assess our development vs a non-power 5 team, that's your prerogative. I choose to do it against P-5 teams, that can actually somewhat match our level of talent.
Bros don’t talk to bros like that bro. I hurt bro.Like I said, I'm not stupid. Enjoy your lolly pops and rainbows and Dick and Jane books...remedial bro.
Is Illinois any better than any of those Big 8 programs? We're a heck of a long way from the TO and Devaney days.The poster's here can be a joke. They live in a false history of glory days mauling mediocre to bad Big 8 opponents ( excluding Oklahoma), and glorify decent past players to God like status. Give me Martinez, Robinson and MO Washington over Tagge, Kinney and Rodgers as sophomores/freshmen anytime. The latter were solid and steady, but as dynamic trios go I'take our current batch. Give Frost another two years to finish stocking our lines and we will be ready to reclaim our glorious past. In the meantime, sit back and enjoy the roller coaster ride to the 6-6 or 7-5 and a bowl I have predicted for the past year.
Ask the QB for Washington State how he felt about his stats last night.Again...450 yards...3 TD's no picks...
Okay...do you have his contact information?Ask the QB for Washington State how he felt about his stats last night.
Leach should've benched himAsk the QB for Washington State how he felt about his stats last night.
last year, 4 turnovers, 110+ yards in penalties, loss
this year, 4 turnovers, 110+ yards in penalties, win
sure looks like development to me.
bet your co-workers are really looking forward to your witty remarks at the water cooler this week.
On the read plays, he makes the wrong read a lot more often than he makes the right read and has been doing it since last year. Needs to be coached a lot better on those plays.Are we reading all those inside and outside zone plays?
He was a very reluctant runner this season up until the 2nd half - perhaps even making incorrect reads to avoid running the ball
He doesn’t have time for ping pong bro, he’s defending us from the Sky’s and deserves our thanks bro.That's why you should stick to other sports. We won by what, 3 TDs last year against Illinois?
Perhaps ping pong is where your talents should reside. No?
these posts are why I'll still send you a valentine, Hoosker. Hilarious!!!!!!!That's why you should stick to other sports. We won by what, 3 TDs last year against Illinois?
Perhaps ping pong is where your talents should reside. No?
He doesn’t have time for ping pong bro, he’s defending us from the Sky’s and deserves our thanks bro.
Shoot you got me there bro-tha. Imma head back to my cave with all the other dumb bros. Just remember I’ll never stop loving you.Not sure what Sky is possessing, but I'm sure it's some important stuff.
I saw that same guy not even attempting to block or get in the way of a defender when he could have helped out his running back. He's played timid all year and falls down in front of defenders when we need to get the first. I don't know if he's been over coached or what, but that's not the kind of leader you want on offense with the way he's played so far.You don’t do that to a captain and the leader of your offense. What kind of message does that send?
You're a lot more pessimistic than I am. I think this team has enough talent to be a good team, and I expect a lot better play our of them than we've seen against Illinois and the other teams we've played this season.I think some of you guys need to reset your expectations this year. This is not going to be a great team or a team that wins the west, is it possible sure but not very likely.
This game we spotted a team 21 points and came back to win. The offense has 32 first downs and almost 700 yards of offense, that's an effective day against anyone. The offense however turned the ball over 4 times on the road and that is something we will not overcome against a better team. The defense played well in spurts and really bad in other spurts.
It's clear to me at least at present Wisconsin is the class in the west and Iowa is behind them. We are mixed in with the rest. If we get better we might beat Iowa but I think Wi will destroy us this year.
I am shooting for a bowl game and hoping we avoid embarrassing losses. If we do better than that I will be very happy
I saw that same guy not even attempting to block or get in the way of a defender when he could have helped out his running back. He's played timid all year and falls down in front of defenders when we need to get the first. I don't know if he's been over coached or what, but that's not the kind of leader you want on offense with the way he's played so far.
You don't do that to a guy who takes responsibility for his mistakes and the team's shortcomings. I agree he does seem to have regressed a bit this year, he was also the new kid on the block last year and every team now has a lot of film on the kid. Whatever is wrong is between his ears, maybe he is being over coached but he is a microcosm of the team. We have more talent than I thought, the D is better than expected but the turnovers, penalties and kicking woes are killers. Let's clean this shit up and play the very best we can against OSU.Bench for the game? No. Bench him for a series to send him a message to pull his head out of his ass? Your'e damn right. He should have sat out a series.
Saturday was also a potential season-changing moment for quarterback Adrian Martinez. The sophomore led NU with 327 yards passing and 118 yards rushing, becoming just the second quarterback in school history to throw for 300 and rush for 100 yards in one game.
His 445 yards of total offense was the third-best game in school history.
I never advocate benching AMart for the season, but sometimes I don't think it would be inappropriate to give Vedral a series to calm Martinez down. So far this year he seems to get wound up really tight sometimes.
In some areas he's been playing with no confidence and other areas it seems like he's too confident. I don't know if he could play with any more fear than he has been. AM is way too talented to be playing like he has so far. I am glad he is starting to throw it downfield more, but he's still struggling with accuracy at times. I apparently am a lot more optimistic than some of you because I don't think AM is just another qb or a Tommy Armstrong clone. I think he has as much talent as any of the great qb's we've had here and he needs to start playing like it.I think you have to be very careful when you start playing that game... sometimes with any player, but even more so with the QB getting pulled can mess with your head. Make you play with that fear of messing up because you’ll get yanked, and even more so it pulls you out of your Rhythm, even if you don’t seem to be in... sometimes they just need to play themselves out of the jitters and into their rhythm
Consider me in the same boat you are oldjar. I think 2AM has a ton of talent... I’m not sure what’s been going on so far this year but he will be fine...In some areas he's been playing with no confidence and other areas it seems like he's too confident. I don't know if he could play with any more fear than he has been. AM is way too talented to be playing like he has so far. I am glad he is starting to throw it downfield more, but he's still struggling with accuracy at times. I apparently am a lot more optimistic than some of you because I don't think AM is just another qb or a Tommy Armstrong clone. I think he has as much talent as any of the great qb's we've had here and he needs to start playing like it.
He was very lucky to have 0 INT and also very lucky none of his WR left that game in an ambulance. You're also glossing over his two fumbles and falling down in the open field in the red zone.
He busted out in the 2nd half but that first half was ugly. And if you think he was great passing and nothing is ever wrong ask yourself why Frost was dialing up an overwhelming majority of runs down the stretch.
The way he ran in the end is the way he needs to run all the time. Kid has had the yips, I don't wanna bench him forever but I wouldn't have been mad at seeing Vedral a series.
Frost had the yips in early 96 too, doesn't mean the kid will never be good but right now they aren't a consistent offense and he is part of that.
AM leads the conference in total yards!
So? He should be benched for obvious reasons..
I do think he needs to quit with that Mahomes crap though. He was looking at Wandale on some play last night and threw the ball to Stoll which was poorly thrown and didn’t result in a reception. I think he’s trying a little too hard to do some things that we don’t exactly need right now. We need consistency, not fancy maneuvers to fool the defense on and easy pitch and catch.
I can't tell if you are saying he should be benched or he should not be benched.
lots of good points both ways. seemed like years ago more teams willing to substitute a backup for a series or two, then go back to the starter. some did it on a regular basis. one thing for sure whatever they decided to do offensively in the second half should be carried forward to start games with.
back at you dipstick, dumber just called dumb a moron. try and fire off a couple neurons before postingThere were not a lot of good points made "both ways" in this thread.
This free board is a collection of some of the stupidest Husker fans in all of Husker land.
If you called for Martinez to be benched you're a fvcking moron. All of you.