and RB and DB and kicker and long snapper and ILB.......
2025 OL is concerning
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I keep hearing we've got a "young" team but we've got a lot of experience across the team. Defense will lose a lot. Our OL has a lot of young guys, but they're inexperienced. They'll just have to step up. That's college football for you. I do think we'll have a big gap in numbers on the OL between our 1st and 2nd year players and the upperclassmen. Evans and Lutovsky may be the only experienced upperclassmen we have in 2025 which is scary. I bet they move Evans back to center (unless Sledge is too good to keep off the field). My guess for next year is that it'll be Gunnar, Pyle, Evans, Lutovsky, and another one of the youngsters. Teddy coming back would be a nice surprise but I don't think we can count on it. Brix might be ready to play. Taumua may be healthy and ready to contribute. Seagren may be our next walk-on starter on the OL. There are a lot of youngsters who'll have a chance, but if we can get a transfer offensive tackle who can play I'm sure Nebraska will try to get him.
I like the youth we have on OL. The numbers there look good. It may just be a tough year in 2025 as they gain experience.
I'm actually more concerned about DT where we lose Nash and Robinson. We have a number of young DL who look good, but none seem to have the size and bulk of the those two.
I like the youth we have on OL. The numbers there look good. It may just be a tough year in 2025 as they gain experience.
I'm actually more concerned about DT where we lose Nash and Robinson. We have a number of young DL who look good, but none seem to have the size and bulk of the those two.
Keona Davis (Wilhite on Rivals page)- 5.8 4*
PWill - 5.8 4*
Cam L - 5.8 4*
RVP - 5.7 3*
Kai Wallin 5.6 3*
Carroll-Jackson 5.6 3*
James Williams NR
Jeudy - transfer 5.8 4*
This is the recruiting that Rhule and Co have done. Davis is playing as a true freshman, and the rest have played in games this year. Williams has been developed as a pass rush specialist. Lacking on top end talent, sure. Weak, I don't think so.
Kai Wallin at 5.6 3 is looking like a stud when he gets in. That's a solid group.
Was there excitement with OL recruiting under Frost?
2019: 6 OL, but I only remember being excited for Benhart & Banks. I'm pretty sure everyone knew Desmond Bland wasn't making it onto campus even when he committed. The other 3, I'm not sure why anyone would've been excited for?
2020: Only 2 OL, haha!
- EDIT: Looking back at this class, man, it was bad.
2021: Only 3 OL, big get being Prochazka & that was about it.
2022: Holy schnikes.... ZERO OL commits.
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Thanks for your response Teddy... I'll talk to your a year from now about why you didn't make it yet again smooth brain.
Yes, every year the same was said, and recruiting was used to justify keeping Greg Austin around just as they are now with Donovan.
I did a Greg Austin search and I didn't see any comments of what you're claiming. Maybe I missed them? But it's unlikely.
I am pretty certain the complete opposite is true. I remember people saying, "Frost can keep his job if he fires Greg Austin (and others)".... You don't say that if you thought Greg Austin was recruiting well.
Actually I’m pretty excited about the younger olinemen they are definitely more athletic I’ll believe we’ll be just fine now maybe a couple of portal guys would be ok
Haven't they brought in pretty good OL recruiting classes the last two cycles?
4-1 and we're hitting the panic button on next years oline?
4-1 and we're hitting the panic button on next years oline?
2022 was uncle Donnie’s first year here and first ever year recruiting
My suspicion is that not many people wanted to hook their wagon to Frost that year.
I don’t know. A bunch of kids from that class play huge minutes for us right now
Bonner, Hartzog, EJ, Singleton, Jenkins (recruited as a DL not by Donnie)
Stenger and Tagaloa were part of it, too, as was Michigan’s starting MLB (Hausmann)
Maybe frosts best class looking back
We've got a bunch of young ones. We may need some. I am more concerned about replacing nutsmasher and ty. Those are 2 big dudes and I don't see more of them on our current roster
Yup. Recruiting ultimately falls under the HC (Frost in '22) in my opinion.
Also, it's not like position coaches are responsible for recruiting only their position, right?
Excellent point. 4th & 1, 3rd & 1 vs. Purdue and we've got linemen who forget the snap count.
Seems like most good college offensive lines do not excel at both run blocking and pass blocking. Go back to the glory years of "The Pipeline"-- only our absolute best lines were decent at pass protection in obvious passing downs. And don't forget that we had multiple NFL caliber I-backs and fullbacks back in those days.
This 2024 line is pretty good at pass blocking. Not good at run blocking but I'll go back to what I've been saying all along. We need to see more Emmitt Johnson early on. That kid can get two yards when nothing is there. He just finds a gap somewhere. And if there is an actual hole, he finds it and consistently makes the first man miss.
I think Rhule and Barthel are being stubborn. He says Dowdell paves the way for EJ late. I think if you start with EJ we could sustain drives in the 1st half and pull away. Then bring in Dowdell with the pain.
The OL recruits may be more athletic than in prior classes, but the ongoing question (until it isn't) is whether they are capable football players and produce higher than average results. Will they be developed beyond their current skills that gave them a higher * ranking? I, for one, am hopeful because it at least looks like they seem better from a skill / physical starting point.
I was referring to them hiring Donovan. It's also possible that they were already all in on trying to sign Dylan and were willing to hire Donovan to promote that. Dylan's arm talent was identified very early on before he ever threw a high school pass.
People quickly forget how Bob and Tom would hire high school coaches or guys from crappy college programs to coach positions. I don't get bent out of shape by hires to coach a position. Donnie at least had some college and NFL cred to help him with recruiting. I'm fairly happy with his overall job performance starting with his past two recruiting classes. We're seeing guys like Gottula and Jenkins perform pretty well which I think speaks positively for the future.
Fall scrimmages IMO determined the pecking order at RB and up until now they haven't' seen a lot to change that order. We'll see how it goes going forward. I think EJ benefited some from coming in after we took a lead. I said in the second half thread that Purdue gave up when we took that 7-3 lead. You could see it in their on field body language.
I dont think our Line is great at the run game by any means, but equally at fault is our RBs. I dont see a lot there that oozes greatness. Just some sort of meh dudes. They are fine, but no one is a superstar. Little barney has the makings, but that kid weighs 140lbs and can only do so much. The rest of them are 4 similar dudes who cant separate themselves.
Id love for the coaches to rehab Teddy and have him lose a bunch of weight. Convert him into a BA edge sealing run blocking tight end.
Jenkins Rivals page lists him as a DT prospect and he was recruited by Dawson who was coaching Dline at the time. Listed as Oline on the 2022 roster. Wonder why he made the switch from his predicted college position.
EJ is averaging 8.3 yds/carry. No doubt the number is helped by him not taking reps for the tougher yardage, but it does indicate that the kid is more than making good on his opportunities. He'll be playing more in the first half.
My biggest reason for EJ is his ability to find yards when there is no hole. If we keep talking about the offensive line struggling on run blocking, that is what you need.
You cannot trust Rahmir running it, and if everything is clogged a battering ram like Dowdell doesn't do much between the 20's. On the carries outside that Dowdell had found success lately, Emmett can run those faster.
I think all that holds EJ back is his pass pro blocking
It's what some people do!Haven't they brought in pretty good OL recruiting classes the last two cycles?
4-1 and we're hitting the panic button on next years oline?
Rhule spoke well of EJ and Rahmir in picking up blitzers. I think you'll see more of EJ in earlier downs, with Rahmir continuing to play in obvious passing situations.
I don’t think Teddy will ever be a factor again for us. He wasn’t moving well before his most recent surgery and the clock is ticking😕
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