Frost went from 0-12 to 12-0 in 3 seasons as a Div1 CFB HC, same team. He beat SEC talent.
Stop doubting him. Watch
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Frost went from 0-12 to 12-0 in 3 seasons as a Div1 CFB HC, same team. He beat SEC talent.
Stop doubting him. Watch
nothing in my posts doubts Frost as a coach. Other than to say he isn’t winning National titles with a bunch of 20-25 ranked recruiting classes.
HTO, you were always needed out on the recruiting trail. You supported Bo and bought Mike Riley.
True believer.
GBR
The most physical team, that's the team that's gonna win this football game.
Let's take those N's, and put it right underneathe their chin, and get after somebody's ass!!!
Bo Pelini
Let's take those N's, and put it right underneathe their chin, and get after somebody's ass!!!
Bo Pelini
NU will need to recruit better to win a natty. Get 2-4 more classes like the last two (or better) and see what happens when those kids are shaped by Duval and develop in Frost or Chins systems. Maybe a title can be won by superior development with top 15 classes.
And I think the quality of Alabama's four stars is better than what most other school's take. The four stars who get committable offers are not kids who had trouble in high school academic or otherwise and they are kids the staff has gotten to know very well. Alabama is much more choosy because they can afford to be. Frost & company have to take more chances on kids and that is reality. Period.
Reading between the lines here, but I don't think the Florida kid loved Lincoln and when he wasn't promised anything for playing time coming off the injury he decided to bolt.
Would think the best you'll get from this staff as a player is that if you do the things you are supposed to do, you should be playing. But also, we will continue to recruit in the hopes that someone can take your spot. Some kids don't prosper when far away from home. Others make Lincoln their new (or second) home. That's why it's great to see a kid like Dismuke continue to progress in the program. Stuck with things after the more highly regarded Calabasas guys blew town. Same with Eric Lee. Hope the position switch works out for him so NU can have some depth at safety until the new bunch gets their feet wet.
I had posted some of the recruiting rankings of the national champions since 2006 last year and went and found that post and updated it since then(added the 17 & 18 natl champs). I used the class rankings of the prior 5 classes and went to 2006 because there really isn't much for rankings on this site before 2002.
(Year)(Team) (last 5 class)(Avg per class)
2018 Clemson(8,22,6,4,13) Avg: 10.6
2017 Alabama(1,1,2,1,1)Avg: 1.2
2016 Clemson(6,4,13,14,14) Avg: 10.2
2015 Alabama(2,1,1,1,1) Avg: 1.2
2014 Ohio State(3,2,4,11,25) Avg: 9
2013 Florida State(10,6,2,10,7) Avg: 7
2012 Alabama(1,1,5,1,1) Avg: 1.8
2011 Alabama(1,5,1,1,10) Avg: 3.6
2010 Auburn(4,19,20,7,10) Avg: 12
2009 Alabama(1,1,10,11,18) Avg: 8.2
2008 Florida(3,1,2,15,7) Avg: 5.6
2007 LSU(4,7,22,2,1) Avg: 7.2
2006 Florida(2,15,7,2,20)9.2
National Playoff teams
2014(Average 8.6)
Oregon(26,22,16,9,13) Avg 17.2
Ohio St(3,2,4,11,25) Avg: 9
FSU(4,10,6,2,10) Avg: 6.4
Bama(1,1,1,1,5) Avg: 1.8
2015(Average ranking 14.2)
Clemson(4,13,14,14,8) Avg: 10.6
Bama(2,1,1,1,1) Avg: 1.2
OU(14,15,15,11,14) Avg: 13.8
Mich St(22,22,40,41,31) Avg 31.2
2016(Average Ranking 11)
Clemson(6,4,13,14,14) Avg: 10.2
Bama(1,2,1,1,1) Avg 1.2
Ohio St(3,9,3,2,4) Avg 4.2
Washington(37,30,36,18,21) Avg: 28.4
2017(Average Ranking 7.7)
OU(7,16,14,15,15) Avg: 10.4
Clemson(22,6,4,13,14) Avg: 11.8
Georgia(3,9,6,7,12) Avg: 7.4
Bama(1,1,2,1,1) Avg: 1.2
2018(Average Ranking 9.2)
Clemson(8,22,6,4,13)
Bama(7,1,1,2,1)
Notre Dame(11,13,13,11,11)
Oklahoma(8,7,16,14,15)
Obviously teams like Michigan State and Washington proved that you can get to the playoff without having a top 15 class, but it is a bit of an anomaly. Every national champion since 2007 has had at least 1 top 15 class and most of them have had multiple top 15 classes. Obviously you need the jimmies and the joes, but you need the right coach to lead them too.
(Year)(Team) (last 5 class)(Avg per class)
2018 Clemson(8,22,6,4,13) Avg: 10.6
2017 Alabama(1,1,2,1,1)Avg: 1.2
2016 Clemson(6,4,13,14,14) Avg: 10.2
2015 Alabama(2,1,1,1,1) Avg: 1.2
2014 Ohio State(3,2,4,11,25) Avg: 9
2013 Florida State(10,6,2,10,7) Avg: 7
2012 Alabama(1,1,5,1,1) Avg: 1.8
2011 Alabama(1,5,1,1,10) Avg: 3.6
2010 Auburn(4,19,20,7,10) Avg: 12
2009 Alabama(1,1,10,11,18) Avg: 8.2
2008 Florida(3,1,2,15,7) Avg: 5.6
2007 LSU(4,7,22,2,1) Avg: 7.2
2006 Florida(2,15,7,2,20)9.2
National Playoff teams
2014(Average 8.6)
Oregon(26,22,16,9,13) Avg 17.2
Ohio St(3,2,4,11,25) Avg: 9
FSU(4,10,6,2,10) Avg: 6.4
Bama(1,1,1,1,5) Avg: 1.8
2015(Average ranking 14.2)
Clemson(4,13,14,14,8) Avg: 10.6
Bama(2,1,1,1,1) Avg: 1.2
OU(14,15,15,11,14) Avg: 13.8
Mich St(22,22,40,41,31) Avg 31.2
2016(Average Ranking 11)
Clemson(6,4,13,14,14) Avg: 10.2
Bama(1,2,1,1,1) Avg 1.2
Ohio St(3,9,3,2,4) Avg 4.2
Washington(37,30,36,18,21) Avg: 28.4
2017(Average Ranking 7.7)
OU(7,16,14,15,15) Avg: 10.4
Clemson(22,6,4,13,14) Avg: 11.8
Georgia(3,9,6,7,12) Avg: 7.4
Bama(1,1,2,1,1) Avg: 1.2
2018(Average Ranking 9.2)
Clemson(8,22,6,4,13)
Bama(7,1,1,2,1)
Notre Dame(11,13,13,11,11)
Oklahoma(8,7,16,14,15)
Obviously teams like Michigan State and Washington proved that you can get to the playoff without having a top 15 class, but it is a bit of an anomaly. Every national champion since 2007 has had at least 1 top 15 class and most of them have had multiple top 15 classes. Obviously you need the jimmies and the joes, but you need the right coach to lead them too.
It's all bullsh!t Kaz. Osborne and Devaney did it with hardly any highly rated recruits. Frost is cut from the same cloth. He too will win multiple national titles with average recruits.......or so I am lead to believe.
Didn’t know they rated recruits when the Bob father roamed the sidelines in Lincoln...
NU will need to up its quality of recruits to win a title. To think otherwise is delusional. The question is how much. The numbers would suggest that a couple of top ten classes are needed. Could a team win the thing with 3 or 4 classes ranked 11-15?
NU already has more highly rated recruits than two teams that have made CFP appearances. So NU already has the talent to play at a much higher level than the previous 2 years.
NU already has more highly rated recruits than two teams that have made CFP appearances. So NU already has the talent to play at a much higher level than the previous 2 years.
You need high level recruiting AND coaching.
Since joining the big ten Nebraska has never once had a recruiting class ranked behind any team currently in the west division. There is no reason we shouldn’t be winning this division on a regular basis beginning this year. If we aren’t the reason isn’t recruiting.
I know this is sarcasm, but some people really do forget how well Tom recruited. Tommie Frazier was rated the #2 player in the nation by at least one service when he signed with NU. Tom got his share of 4 & 5 star talent.
Service ratings were in their infancy when NU made its run in the 90s. But given the number of in-state starters and contributors in those years, combined with the geographic realities of the state (small pop, few blue-chip players), it’s safe to say TO won those titles with classes that fell out of the top ten.
Frost will attempt to do something similar to TO. Get the best skill talent you can, and combine that with superior development, strength and conditioning.
This article is very interesting, especially the breakdown of ratings estimates for the 95 starters - http://sportstreatise.com/2018/01/1995-nebraska-and-the-myth-of-championship-recruiting/
Frost will attempt to do something similar to TO. Get the best skill talent you can, and combine that with superior development, strength and conditioning.
This article is very interesting, especially the breakdown of ratings estimates for the 95 starters - http://sportstreatise.com/2018/01/1995-nebraska-and-the-myth-of-championship-recruiting/
