Would the B1G deserve to be a P5 conference without Michigan and Ohio State?

[moralvictories]

I would think so, because they would still have Nebraska and they have USC coming in next year, so I would say yes, absolutely.

Contrast that with the Big 12. They will lose Texas and Oklahoma, next year but they will still remain a Power 5 conference despite having no blue bloods. For those who bring up TCU beating Michigan, in order for TCU to get their shot at Michigan, they had to go thru Oklahoma and Texas to get there. However, starting in 2024, that won't be the case.

 

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[Landomatic]

I would think so, because they would still have Nebraska and they have USC coming in next year, so I would say yes, absolutely.

Contrast that with the Big 12. They will lose Texas and Oklahoma, next year but they will still remain a Power 5 conference despite having no blue bloods. For those who bring up TCU beating Michigan, in order for TCU to get their shot at Michigan, they had to go thru Oklahoma and Texas to get there. However, starting in 2024, that won't be the case.

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[HuskersWay]

All the non-charter members who are there only for the money (Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Penn State, Maryland) would leave if UM and OSU left and you'd be left with a bunch of super-dull schools in a terrible recruiting footprint.

 

[huskerfan66]

All the non-charter members who are there only for the money (Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Penn State, Maryland) would leave if UM and OSU left and you'd be left with a bunch of super-dull schools in a terrible recruiting footprint.

Probably not wrong but same could be said about any conference. Ultimately uterus, sooner and a&m left because we did if you choose to look at it from that angle. If you have options it works. If you don't you stay. Thankfully we've had/have options that are beneficial. Most can't say that

 

[king_kong_]

OP what defines P5?

Because if it’s actual results in sports that move the needle, B1G isn’t P5 even with those two

 

[RBigredMax]

OP what defines P5?

Because if it’s actual results in sports that move the needle, B1G isn’t P5 even with those two

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[scarletred]

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[moralvictories]

All the non-charter members who are there only for the money (Nebraska, USC, UCLA, Penn State, Maryland) would leave if UM and OSU left and you'd be left with a bunch of super-dull schools in a terrible recruiting footprint.

You mean kind of like what the Big 12 will be like without Texas and Oklahoma.

 

[moralvictories]

OP what defines P5?

Because if it’s actual results in sports that move the needle, B1G isn’t P5 even with those two

Getting teams into the playoffs perhaps should be a working definition of what it takes to be a P5 conference. Also having at least one blue blood in the conference as well.

 

[Bigred_b1624]

Nebraska and Penn state would keep it power 5. Nobody cares about any of the other teams.

 

[king_kong_]

Getting teams into the playoffs perhaps should be a working definition of what it takes to be a P5 conference. Also having at least one blue blood in the conference as well.

Getting teams in, a function of media rankings above all else, is deemed more important than winning once there

Typical B1G line of thinking

 

[Mr.Scary13]

I would think so, because they would still have Nebraska and they have USC coming in next year, so I would say yes, absolutely.

Contrast that with the Big 12. They will lose Texas and Oklahoma, next year but they will still remain a Power 5 conference despite having no blue bloods. For those who bring up TCU beating Michigan, in order for TCU to get their shot at Michigan, they had to go thru Oklahoma and Texas to get there. However, starting in 2024, that won't be the case.

What is special about Michigan? That program has never won squat.... the most overrated program in college football.

 

[Mrs HuskerHusaria]

This looks fun.

 

[moralvictories]

Getting teams in, a function of media rankings above all else, is deemed more important than winning once there

Typical B1G line of thinking

Works that way for all conferences, not just the B1G.

 

[moralvictories]

What is special about Michigan? That program has never won squat.... the most overrated program in college football.

Split the national championship with Nebraska in 1997. Sure Nebraska was better on paper that year, likely would have run Michigan off the field. Then again, Michigan was much better on paper than TCU. They should have run TCU off the field but lo and behold, TCU won, so being better on paper doesn't necessarily translate into winning on the field.

 

[king_kong_]

Works that way for all conferences, not just the B1G.

AAC qualifies, then?

 

[moralvictories]

AAC qualifies, then?

They did have one playoff qualifier (Cincinnati). However, there are no blue bloods in the AAC, which is why they don't deserve to be a power 5 conference.

 

[Redmich]

in 10-20 years when there are just 2 power conferences - with the SEC and BIG being the framework

How large will they be?

Who will be members and who in the current ACC/B12/P12 will be left out?

Will any current BIG and SEC programs be removed?
(Klatt has suggested this may happen)

 

[saluno22]

Getting teams in, a function of media rankings above all else, is deemed more important than winning once there

Typical B1G line of thinking

Need some type of objective metric for qualifying and seeding the field. I've been done with guessing what the committee values from year to year for a while. Do what the NCAA does for hockey.

But then again, the enterprise as a whole would lose money compared to now if they simplified it and couldn't give ESPN weekly content.