Not at all. Just not getting ready to fire him after one year. There's some things to be concerned about, but a lot to be optimistic about. Throw in his professionalism, recruiting, organization and demeanor and I'm willing to let the year play out.
Would 8-4..
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Not at all. Just not getting ready to fire him after one year. There's some things to be concerned about, but a lot to be optimistic about. Throw in his professionalism, recruiting, organization and demeanor and I'm willing to let the year play out.
I agree with this 100%. But we also don't want a coaching revolving door either. I really, really want Riley to succeed, if for no other reason than the fact that we are stuck with him.
Totally agree - for better or worse Riley will be here at least 4-5 years no matter the record. We simply cannot afford from an image standpoint another firing, especially a guy who is well liked in coaching circles. Fire Riley after two years no matter the record and we are roasted over the media fire and our chances of "Coming back" go down considerably
Complete nonsense. Did you pay attention at all last season? We were better than a 6 win team. You think we will struggle to win 5-7 games? As in you think it could be worse? You think we will regress compared to last season? Come on-I know some people are just naturally pessimistic, but this is way beyond the pale.
That article you posted from 247 sports is the exact reason why I would be totally fine with an 8-4 season (Though I think this team is capable of 9-3 and 10-2). The program is trending up. It is still being rebuilt. The recruits that will be starters in 2017 and beyond are very good ones. That analyst really nailed it; expect Nebraska to do better this year than last year, but count on them being a real contender again in 2017.
In addition, that guy also mentions how Steve Pederson is one of the key reasons why we went through so long in the wilderness as a program, and I have always believed that. I still burn him in effigy after every season, and I look forward to the years where I no longer do that. :-D
In addition, that guy also mentions how Steve Pederson is one of the key reasons why we went through so long in the wilderness as a program, and I have always believed that. I still burn him in effigy after every season, and I look forward to the years where I no longer do that. :-D
Of course they don't. But it's nice if people would actually give reasoned analysis and not blind pessimism.
I don't think it's blind pessimism. What you call reasoned analysis others might call blind optimism following a 6-7 season.
I don't agree with his prediction either but to call it blind pessimism is wrong...because....
Come on....quit throwing out strawmen to make a point. How about you show your small sample of posters that would think going winless should translate to another year.
You know, blind pessimism is just as bad as blind optimism. Maybe worse. At least someone being optimistic can actually be happy.
get with the program.. haven't you been watching this board? Mike walks on water.. he was killing it with 4 recruits back in early April, and he was absolutely huge in SE Asia at Oregon State, and is also an ace recruiter. quit being such a Bo lover and get with the program and support the team. It doesn't matter that we had a losing season last year and that we were not supposed to even be bowl eligible.. listen to mr dipthong from 247 sports.. he says we are gonna be a contender! wurd yo!
Just, no. If Riley and his staff fall on their face, they will get the ax. Plenty of teams have searched multiple times for the right fit. Epic failure and doing nothing would be cause for greater consternation.
Man can't you just get WITH the program instead of against it for a few seasons.
either way I hope it does not come to that - I enjoy the professionalism of this staff. I hope we win 10-11 games this year and have a break out season as someone else said winning cures a lot of problems
Super bitter.
No doubt, the above is the best statement in this thread. Some posters bring absolutely zero value to any topic, quickly derail threads which makes this board tough to read.
Anything less than 7-5 would be a complete failure. Those of you who think Nebraska is a 6 win team or worse on are not really being pessimistic, you're just kind of stupid.
- Nebraska, at most, will play 3 ranked football teams in 2016.
- Nebraska returns a defense with 9 starters, including a full 2-deep of linebackers who have started games.
- One of the D-tackles becoming a new full time starter, has played in 35+ career games.
- The receivers and tight ends have more returning production than any other receiving unit in college football.
- The Starting Offensive tackles will be 2 of only 3 offensive tackles in the Big Ten who came to the Big Ten with offers from Bama.
- Nebraska will be the only team in the Big Ten with 4 former 4-Stars starting in their offensive line.
- Nebraska has a starting QB with more than 35 career starts, 60+ TDs, and more than 7,000 total yards. He will be in year two of this system.
- Nebraska returns more than 90% of its offensive production from a team that put up 30+ and 450+ yards per game under a 1st year system.
If that team loses more than 4 games, it would be really troubling. If they lost more than 5 games, it would be one of the worst coaching jobs in the Big Ten.
- Nebraska, at most, will play 3 ranked football teams in 2016.
- Nebraska returns a defense with 9 starters, including a full 2-deep of linebackers who have started games.
- One of the D-tackles becoming a new full time starter, has played in 35+ career games.
- The receivers and tight ends have more returning production than any other receiving unit in college football.
- The Starting Offensive tackles will be 2 of only 3 offensive tackles in the Big Ten who came to the Big Ten with offers from Bama.
- Nebraska will be the only team in the Big Ten with 4 former 4-Stars starting in their offensive line.
- Nebraska has a starting QB with more than 35 career starts, 60+ TDs, and more than 7,000 total yards. He will be in year two of this system.
- Nebraska returns more than 90% of its offensive production from a team that put up 30+ and 450+ yards per game under a 1st year system.
If that team loses more than 4 games, it would be really troubling. If they lost more than 5 games, it would be one of the worst coaching jobs in the Big Ten.
Gold star post. My thoughts exactly. I am expecting a break out season this year, barring injuries. There are no excuses for this team to be anything less than 8-4. I think this team, on paper, should be 11-1 or 10-2 (not sure how good Oregon will be). I want Riley to succeed. I think he will. But if he goes less than 8-4 this year he should be on a very hot seat
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FYI...both Michigan's LT and tOSU's RT had Bama offers (not sure about other schools so there could be more). But that's not the tangent...I have been called out on this board for saying kids weren't being actively recruited by Michigan. It looks like Michigan might end up being the beneficiary of getting two OLs, this year, who Bama "offered" but apparently won't take. One has apparently already been told they are done recruiting his position and the other apparently won't be a take if they land another kid who they are expecting to commit in the next week. If we end up landing them I think it would be inaccurate for me to claim Michigan beat out Bama for them (especially since we were running 2nd for one of them before he became a non-take for Bama)...just clarifying what I mean by "not actively recruiting"
***End of Tangent***
These threads are starting to grind my gears. Some posters were 'sarisfied/optimistic' winning 9 games. Some were 'satisfied/ optimistic' after last year. Records have different levels of importance year to year. Just set the bar at a conference championship. I likely won't be satisfied this year and that's OK.
Not really...8-4 with losses to Orgeon, OSU, Wisconsin and Iowa is basically just a lame ass Bo season.
Still believe the back to back games early against Oregon and Northwestern will show us if we have a contender to win this division need to win both but we CAN'T lose both.
Riley is just a likeable guy and even with another 5-7 he's safe.
Now Eichorst is a different story. Another 5-7 or even 6-6 with a recruiting class outside the top 15 could see a change IMO.
Now Eichorst is a different story. Another 5-7 or even 6-6 with a recruiting class outside the top 15 could see a change IMO.
This thread kind of moved towards a worst case scenario discussion. There's also the best case scenario, and the most likely scenario. 8-4 fits into my most likely scenario, along with 9-3 and probably 7-5.
There's basically 7 gimme's on our schedule. 2 with us slight favorites. 2 with us slight underdogs. And one OhSU game with us as true underdogs.
It's CFB. Every team has holes to fill. The staff should now fully understand our players' strengths, weaknesses, and limitations. Unless the staff is incompetent, we'll do better this season as it's year 2.
There's basically 7 gimme's on our schedule. 2 with us slight favorites. 2 with us slight underdogs. And one OhSU game with us as true underdogs.
It's CFB. Every team has holes to fill. The staff should now fully understand our players' strengths, weaknesses, and limitations. Unless the staff is incompetent, we'll do better this season as it's year 2.
Even the the so-called gimmies were up in the air last season. I think we drop the games most here are expecting and at least one or two others.
But, boy, would I love to be proven wrong.
It really depends on how those presumed losses occur. If, like during the Pelini years, we aren't close to being competitive in those games (i.e. blowouts) or the team shows signs of quitting, then no...8-4 that way is not acceptable. If these are 'one score' losses or competitive...then 8-4 is a step forward given how young the team is and our depth. Having said that, 8-4 to ESPN and other outside observers is still going to result in "How is this better than what they had under Pelini?" What they don't understand is HOW we arrived at 8-4 under Pelini...cuz that matters.
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Your last sentence is unnecessary. Everyone knows you hope this team bombs so you can say you were right. Just admit it.
The potential problem is on the other side of the ball. I don't care what anyone says, you better be able to stop the run if you play in the B10. For Nebraska's D, especially D-line, that is a very big question. If the D-line is near bottom of the B10 against the run, 30ppg won't be enough. If that's the case, TOP is going to drop as opponents pound the ground on 6,7,8 minute drives. 8-4 sounds about right. Add 1-2 more wins if the D-line overachieves. Subtract 1-2 if they stink.
You seem to forget too that we won a couple of games last year that just about everybody had down as losses. I love how everybody brings up the bad losses last year but conveniently forgets about the good wins. Why? Because it doesn't fit their agenda.
That was kind of Riley's M.O. at Oregon State though. He would lose to a team like Sacramento St or Washington St and the next week he would beat a team like USC. I feel like almost every game on our schedule could go either way this year. Even Indiana won't be easy, they have a very good offense that could give our defense fits.
Last year, I quit thinking a whole lot about predicting future games pretty early in the season. The games were turning into coin flips on if we were gonna win. That was last year, year one.
Talent is hard to quantify. Some predictive models use previous results to come up with predictions/probabilities. Last year (previous results) was a (bad) transition year. Any predictive model using last year will have a negative bias reflected onto this year. i.e. we should be better than model predictions.
I can't start the season thinking we will lose a bunch of games we shouldn't. So, I allow 1 upset because they do happen, split the small favorite games for 2 more losses, and OhSU. That's 4 reasonable losses, and 8 wins. Not enough for me to proclaim "greatest coaching staff ever, future looks bright", but enough for me to see that improvement might be coming.
Ugh. Would seem 8-4 would be OK; but many would be very unhappy depending on the who's and hows. 9-3 is my mark, with improvement evident; but hitting on most cylinders and we should be 10-2. Coach does beat some ranked teams; which is a nice change of pace, and I find encouraging.
ditto. I fear though that losing Foltz is going to cost us at least one game this year.
A couple of bad injuries at key spots could spell big trouble. Lose our top 2 QBs and we're screwed.
Iowa starting LG James Daniels had a Alabama, Ohio St and Michigan offer for whatever it's worth.
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