I think the ACC will survive, but it will become a Tier 2 conference after Clemson, Florida State, and North Carolina leave.
Will the ACC survive?
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Haven't kept up with it because its exhausting but I was under the impression the exit fees are so high that leaving isn't a realistic possibility which makes me wonder if the schools who are openly discussing it are full of a lot of bluster and don't qctually have the cards, and are just trying to destabalize the conference so it blows up on its own, which I don't think is going to happen.
They have lawsuits underway to test if the exit fees are enforceable. IMO, the most likely scenario is that the exit fees get negotiated down at some point.
They discovered a little known fact that ESPN could kill it in a couple years.
They are playing the long game and have fish to fry
seems likely that the acc goes the way of the p12. sec and b10 take the cream. b12 picks from leftovers. and schools like wake and bc go the way of oregon state and wazzu. all the while college sports wanders like a rudderless boat subject to the whims of financial despots.
i just wrote that if you consider the b10 and sec the p2. of course, this is lining up to be a p3 with unequal revenues.
The B12 wont be the only conference in a Tier below the P2. That would be boring. Those left out will coagulate into 2-3 geographically sensible conferences.
your wet dreams aside, this will turn into three 20-team power conferences, unequal revenue sharing, and the leftovers.
It will be unequal because the Big 12 and ACC and whatever's left of the pac-12 and G5 will be regulated to a lower tier. The P2 will be comprised of two 24 team leagues that will compete at the highest level. Kansas state will not be getting an invite.
Literally every talking head is discussing Power 2. You are the only person that is trying to make a P3 happen. It’s tiresome and now you insult people who are aligned with all the current info coming out.
Isn't this where you would start squealing like a stuck pig about...
Ad hominem attacks!!!!
What a blowarding, hypocritical asshat.
Interesting, and I haven't really tried following this lately. But K State gets in and KU does not?
Kansas state is not getting an invite to the P2. Keep on dreaming!
Yeah, agree, and it's ridiculous. In 2024 - 2025 the B1G will control around 52% of the TV markets and the SEC around 38 to 40% and that's where the eyeballs and huge TV money is going. You don't have to be a math genius to figure out that doesn't much for the others. That's the reason you're hearing so much chatter about teams trying to get into one of the 2 - it's about survival, plain and simple
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andy staples not in mhk. nor is on3. or the duke site today. or any of the others who keep throwing shiz on the wall so they can say someday: see i told you so.
we could play that game here from a decade ago about N going to the b10 - what would happen. but i'm a guest and realize my place in the pecking order, so i'll avoid that.
it's all conjecture at this point, to put is politely. we only know that college sports are rudderless presently. and despots are in control at the whims of espn, fox, and their conference lackeys. nobody cares about tradition, history, rivalries, and all that blarney. only money matters to the overlords.
we could play that game here from a decade ago about N going to the b10 - what would happen. but i'm a guest and realize my place in the pecking order, so i'll avoid that.
it's all conjecture at this point, to put is politely. we only know that college sports are rudderless presently. and despots are in control at the whims of espn, fox, and their conference lackeys. nobody cares about tradition, history, rivalries, and all that blarney. only money matters to the overlords.
K-State before KU. LOL. Better take a look at the market KU brings and third tier rights for basketball alone. Also, PITT lol
KU is a lot like us
National brand which has become unbridled from its market
All the actual major markets are largely spoken for anyway
Kansas would be an awesome add to the B1G. Meantime big 12 hoops will continue to be a juggernaut with the addition of Arizona.
KU may get in before the separation. It all depends on Notre Dame.
K-state trying to get in shape to be asked to the dance.
There will be a point of strong diminishing returns and my guess is that breaking point will happen when everyone is around the table and someone with half a brain who tries to avoid group think will say … “hold on, hold on, WTF are we doing … does Kansas State make the SEC better.” In that moment half the table will realize Manhattan is in Kansas.
Not that it's worth anymore than anybody else's opinion, but Tony Altimore put out his REALIGNMENT ATTRACTIVENESS REPORT. I'm sure several on here have seen it.
Basically, he's looking at it from I think it said 50 factors and ranked every FBS school. K state made the top 60 just ahead of the likes of Boston College (who stands no chance of getting invited to any P2 conference) and Army.
Where's NU? 23rd right below Cal and Iowa.
He's coming at it from a draft aspect of how they would be picked off the BOARD in a hypothetical draft situation by ESPN/Fox and others.
NU at 23rd after 20 years of misery. K state at 58 after being decent. NU starts winning and getting back to bowls will imo return to top 15 minimum.
Basically, he's looking at it from I think it said 50 factors and ranked every FBS school. K state made the top 60 just ahead of the likes of Boston College (who stands no chance of getting invited to any P2 conference) and Army.
Where's NU? 23rd right below Cal and Iowa.
He's coming at it from a draft aspect of how they would be picked off the BOARD in a hypothetical draft situation by ESPN/Fox and others.
NU at 23rd after 20 years of misery. K state at 58 after being decent. NU starts winning and getting back to bowls will imo return to top 15 minimum.
