I am trying to settle a debate with somebody. What was the real reason Nebraska left the Big12?
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Why did NU leave the Big 12?
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Texass was taking over. Moved the Big 12 offices from KC to Dallas. Trying to move the Big 12 title game permanently to Jerry World. Their stupid Longhorn Network. But the last straw was them and OU flirting with the now dead Pac 12. That started the exodus of the smart schools who were just being proactive and doing what was best for their programs. N hindsight. Nebraska made the smart move. Financially and for stability. Good call T.O.
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There should be no debate. It was clearly stated at the time that Texas' secretive plan to bolt to the PAC leaving Nebraska behind placed a lot of doubt on the future stability of the Big 12. So Nebraska jumped when it had the chance. Ironically Missouri had been begging to get into the Big 10 but were turned down by that conference.
This. And if you remember the press conference, Tom essentially declared UT was clearly on one side of the scale and the remainder of the schools were on the opposite side.
Because we were 1-8 against Texas and invented new ways to choke when we played them.
The guy I am arguing with is trying to tell me that Pac10 ordeal had nothing to do with Nebraska’s move. I remember it as you do. There was a lot of angst around Texas’ maneuvers, but leaving the conference wasn’t on anybody’s radar. Until Texas almost did it and almost left us behind. That was the moment that changed everything. It was that instability that Delany recognized as an opportunity. 6 months after that Pac10 stunt we accepted the B1G offer.
I fully believe that if the Pac10 threat didn’t happen, we don’t leave the Big12. And while the potential of more money was nice, what we really wanted was long term conference stability that would allow us to be in the championship mix.
And the funniest thing of all? All the little brothers who NU beat up on for 50 years. The ISU's and KSU's who cozied up to the evil empire were left at the altar by Texass and OU who bolted for more money in the $EC. Now they're stuck in the watered down Big 12 making peanuts compared to the Big 10 and $EC. Good choice dummies.😂
Big Ten and SEC are again the top conferences in revenue with athlete pay plan on horizon
The Big Ten held a narrow edge over the Southeastern Conference in revenue for the second straight year and the Atlantic Coast Conference again ranked a distant third among the major conferences.
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..people forget how crazy that time period was with all the schools jumping ship in every conference..not just the big 12...but in the big 12 we lost Missouri, Colorado, A&M...in what felt like 48hrs...am I missing somebody??
Colorado definitely chose wrong. Pac 12 and now had to come back begging to join the new Big 12 group of wannabes and also rans.😜👈
Maddening. Those fckers stole so much glory from us.
NCs, Conference championships, home win streaks.
In the words of Anakin Skywalker, "I hate them!"
Because of 1 second being put on the clock, duh
out of the schools i listed that moved...Colorado was the one that actually made the most sense to me at the time...They are literally California in the Rockies, and nobody could have predicted how badly the Pac 10 was going to crash and burn, and frankly, it shouldn't have...they had a sweet TV offer on the table and got greedy and rejected it...never should have gotten to this point
...my amazing wife grew up there. she dated literally the only black guy that went to Boulder high at the time. she joked when they hired Deion that they literally doubled the black population in Boulder when he hit campus. She left Boulder and went on to do ministry and social work in prisons and some of the poorest parts of the south, we're talkin dirt floor poor in Mississippi and the like...and she still laughs about how everyone, inc her..thought they (Boulderites) were so inclusive and accepting...of people they never met or come into contact with. hahaha
I reject the 1-8 theory. We lost a lot against Oklahoma too but never bolted for a different conference. Instead we worked harder, coached better and recruited better and continually improved our program until we could beat them straight up.
Texas was different because they kept changing the rules on us and added an extra second, etc. In this case our opponent was essentially playing with marked cards and that was never going to change.
Texas was different because they kept changing the rules on us and added an extra second, etc. In this case our opponent was essentially playing with marked cards and that was never going to change.
True. I didn't see many brothers on the slopes when I lived in Longmont and frequented Boulder. Still have plenty of family out there. It's a beautiful state. But the People's Republic of Boulder is a whole different level of crazy assholes. I have a friend I grew up with is a professor at CU now. He's gone completely off the reservation.
When I worked at Halliburton in CO we were told not to wear Halliburton gear anywhere near Boulder. Had a friend wearing his winter coat there on the way home from work. Stopped a t a grocery store and had a lady, with her young daughter, completely scream at him for like 5 minutes for destroying the earth and tell him how bad of a human he was for working for Halliburton. People there are insane.
My beef with Haliburton is they acquired some land in Moab that took away one of, if not the best, mountain bike trails called The Green Dot. Somebody literally painted green diamonds down the rocky landscape so you could follow the trail and it was world class...Haliburton bought the land and closed it down and fracked the holy hell out of it..I only know because I snuck in to ride it again anyway and there were literally thousands of holes punched into the ground, everywhere....it was gross
that is hilarious. That is not what Fracking does or what happens to the ground when you frac. Not even close.
do they not punch holes inthe ground? its what i was told. to a T..and i saw the holes...so it made sense to me..but alas, i know zilcho about fracking. so maybe it was something else
They don't just punch holes all over. They drill wells on a "pad". Usually, the pad has multiple wells on it. From 2 to 12 on larger ones. The frac horizontally underground along the seams where the oil is at. This leads to not drilling all over like in the old days where you saw all the pumping units everywhere. That is vertical drilling.
Fracking does not leave holes in the ground ever. They have well heads on each well and take up a relatively small footprint. Pads are maybe a couple acres. I have seen 16 well pad that took up less than an acre when totally complete. When you drill horizontally you would not have pads close together at all in most cases. Miles apart at best. The wells are at times a mile deep and up to 2 miles horizontal. Depends on the area and ground make up. Wells in CO, UT, ND areas are typically deeper than the southern areas of the country as a rule. The footprint they leave is by far much smaller than other energy sources when everything is complete.
For the record, i'm all for getting every drop of oil out of the ground by whatever means necessary...something we will do before we leave this earth. I don't care where its at....(just leave my mountain bike trails alone or open em back up)
...but now you have me curious, WTH are all theose 4" diameter holes they punched in the ground?
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Nebraska left the Big 12 Conference and officially joined the Big Ten on July 1, 2011. The decision was driven by a combination of financial, competitive, and governance factors:
Key Reasons for Nebraska Leaving the Big 12:
- Financial Stability and Revenue Sharing:
- The Big Ten offered a more equitable and lucrative revenue-sharing model, particularly through its successful Big Ten Network.
- The Big 12 had a revenue distribution model that disproportionately favored Texas and a few other schools, leaving Nebraska and others with less financial security.
- Texas' Influence in the Big 12:
- Texas' dominance in conference decision-making, especially with the creation of the Longhorn Network, caused friction with other member schools, including Nebraska.
- Nebraska felt marginalized by Texas' growing influence over television deals and scheduling.
- Desire for Conference Stability:
- At the time, the Big 12's future was uncertain, with rumors of schools like Texas, Oklahoma, and others potentially leaving.
- The Big Ten was seen as a more stable and prestigious conference.
- Academic and Institutional Fit:
- Nebraska valued the Big Ten's strong academic reputation and its association with the Association of American Universities (AAU).
- The conference prioritized both athletics and academics, aligning with Nebraska's long-term goals.
- Geographic and Competitive Considerations:
- The Big Ten offered high-profile matchups and a larger media footprint, which benefited recruiting and program exposure.
Impact of the Move:
- Financially, Nebraska has benefited from the Big Ten's robust media deals and revenue sharing.
- Competitively, however, the football program has struggled to achieve the same level of success it had in the Big 12 and earlier eras.
And Oklahoma thanked us by tucking tail and running from the rivalry because they were getting their ass kicked by Nebraska.....
My two cents are the rivalry with OU ended which I hate OU to this day, second was Texas taking control of the conference, third the big ten is more stable more money. Even though I hate the Big Ten I’m old and yearn for the old big 8 the best conference
There are the reasons given to the fanbase, but I suspect there were really other reasons that prompted the move.
Could have been test holes for drilling points. Maybe looking for spots most suitable for extraction?
Drilling 4-inch diameter holes on a mountain where oil is expected serves specific exploration and testing purposes in the oil and gas industry:
Primary Reasons for 4-Inch Diameter Holes:
- Exploration Core Sampling:
- The holes are likely core holes drilled to extract long cylindrical samples of rock (core samples) for analysis.
- These samples help geologists evaluate the subsurface geology, porosity, permeability, and the potential presence of oil-bearing formations.
- Seismic Testing and Geophysical Analysis:
- Holes may be used to place geophones or explosives for seismic surveys.
- These surveys create shockwaves that bounce off underground structures, helping map oil reservoirs.
- Geological and Environmental Monitoring:
- Holes can be drilled to monitor groundwater, gas emissions, or subsurface conditions to assess the environmental impact and site stability before full-scale drilling.
- Initial Drilling Tests (Pilot Holes):
- A 4-inch hole may serve as a pilot hole to guide larger drilling operations by confirming the geology and stability of the site.
- Pressure and Fluid Testing:
- Test holes can measure subsurface pressures and fluid characteristics, indicating the presence and quality of oil.
do they use this process when preparing for fracking?
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Yes, drilling smaller-diameter holes, such as 4-inch exploratory holes, can be part of the preparation process for hydraulic fracturing (fracking).
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Not real sure. I don't disagree either.
They typically get natural gas the same way. When I was involved in it they didn't even try and capture the gas it was not profitable at the time. We have enough in this country to last a very, very long time.
I'll sound like a giant pussy here but I was always concerned that small animals would fall in those holes and never be able to get back out. It legit bums me out tbinking about it. Hope it doesn't really happen like that.
Some of you are clueless why we joined. Pretty common sense why we did.
What ever failures in football was caused by our own bad hiring.
End of Story.
What ever failures in football was caused by our own bad hiring.
End of Story.
Long term conference stability & B1G money didn't hurt.
There was a concern at the time that Nebraska could find itself without a conference and have to go forward as an independent.
There was a concern at the time that Nebraska could find itself without a conference and have to go forward as an independent.
Where was this trail? I've mtn biked in Moab since the early 90s, but don't remember this one. Feel like I missed out.
Closest trail you might recognize is Gemeni Bridges trail head, north on 313, very close to horsetheif area. I don't believe it was ever a legal trail, but it was marked...if you didn't have an "in" with a local, you'd never find it. It was just the right amount of challenge..mostly downhill
Jesse from Coyote Shuttles turned us onto it....he owed us cause we gave him some shrooms...haha...he liked em so much he gave us a free shuttle up and directions how to find it. It was epic.
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