Could be a possibility.
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...nebraska-grad-transfer-andrew-white/86581972/
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...nebraska-grad-transfer-andrew-white/86581972/
White III Louisville Bound?
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He's at Syracuse today. Crazy how interested some top schools are considering how badly he sucks at the game of basketball. 
He's at Syracuse today. Crazy how interested some top schools are considering how badly he sucks at the game of basketball.
Sucks is a little harsh. However, I have a feeling this whole thing for AW3 could blow up in his face. Boeheim, Petino, etc, they are not stupid. It doesn't take a genius to look at stats and film and figure out that his biggest asset is his outside shooting. These coaches want to win, so they might tell him and more importantly daddy, what they want to hear now, but when push comes to shove, and the chips are down, they are going to want out of him what he is best at. His outside shot to stretch defenses.
Sure at either of these 2 schools, he'll get some chances early in the season in garbage time to work on aspects of his game that he needs to show improvement. However, come conference season, if/when games are tight, he will be out there to make some 3s. If he goes out in a tight game and tries to dribble penetrate or create his own shot, and fails when they want him to shoot, he might get the hook real quick. In other words in his desire to become more complete of a player, he very well could be forced into being a role player/specialist.
Going elsewhere might get his name more recognition, but truly, the place where he'd probably actually get the most chance to work on improving his game and show it on film, is the place in his rear view mirror.
He's likely not making an NBA roster one way or the other....but it sounds like he feels being on a good team could make a difference. I can't blame him in that regard as in the two years he was at NU Miles went 29-36(13-27). That's a lot of losing.
He's at Syracuse today. Crazy how interested some top schools are considering how badly he sucks at the game of basketball.
Funny how when a player leaves your team they all of a sudden "suck" even if they are ten times better than any other player on your team.
From what I've heard, the situation you describe is exactly what he's looking for... a chance to showcase his skills on a winning team as a spot-up shooter/3-point specialist that doesn't have to create his own shot or carry an offense (two things he would have to do at NU and will never have the ability to do in the NBA). He's smart enough to know that that's his only chance at making it in the pros and wants to show scouts that he can fill that exact role, and hopefully on a team that will make a deep run in the NCAA tournament to provide maximum exposure.
I don't think he's going to make it in the NBA either way and his departure still bothers me as I think it shows a lack of loyalty and care for his coaches and teammates. If he gets a real sniff at the league, he'll have to answer questions about why he left two different teams when the going got tough and/or the situation wasn't to his liking. But do I understand why he made the move. As shrewd as it was, it may be his best chance.
If he kills it and makes a deep run in the tourney then he will get a shot in the league as a marksman.
Don't tell that to some...we have plenty of guys waiting in the wings that can put up 17PPG. We will be just "fine."
I could see him replacing the aging Kyle Korver on the Hawks, if he can play defense. But I could see that happening whether he stayed or left. I'm beginning to think the comedian isn't nearly as amusing to his team as he is to fans.
Big IF on the killing it part. He's a solid shooter at the NCAA level, but his lack of defensive ability and all-around athleticism will ultimately doom his pro prospects imo. There are only so many roster spots for guys who hit 3s but do little else in today's NBA, and that assumes you can reliably connect at 40%+ against pro-level defenses.
White shot 41.2% last year, which is good, but wasn't even in the top 50 in 3PT% among all D-1 players. He finished just outside at #51. For reference, the two best 3PT shooters taken with lottery picks were Buddy Hield (#6 at 45.7%) and Denzel Valentine (#11 at 44.4%), and both bring significantly more to the table from an overall skills standpoint. Among current NBA players that specialize in 3PT shooting, Reddick finished last year at 47.5% (#2), McDermott was at 42.5% (#6) and Korver was at 39.9% (#25). In college, Korver and McDermott each shot 45%+ over their four-year careers, and while Reddick only shot 40.6%, he was a prolific scorer for four years at Duke and, like McDermott, a Wooden Award Winner his senior year.
You can see where this is going. If White really wants to show his stuff as a marksman, he'll have to hit at around 43% this year to warrant consideration, and more like 44-45% to really have a shot at getting drafted. That's a pretty big jump for a guy who's already been out of high school for four years, but he might be able to do it surrounded by better athletes in a conducive system. We'll see.
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Interesting. I just remember the article after we thought he was coming back where he learned from the scouts all the things he needed to work on to be a complete player. If what you are saying is true, then he is apparently throwing in the towel on trying to be a more complete player.
He's at Syracuse today. Crazy how interested some top schools are considering how badly he sucks at the game of basketball.
If he's looking to improve his draft stock, he'd be foolish to go to Syracuse. He needs to work on his defense and the Syracuse zone will not help him there. Carmelo is about the only guy Boeheim has coached who has not been a bust in the NBA.
If true...that's a shock. Didn't think Boeheim would be in the market for a guy who can't dribble, defend, and just runs around in circles on the court. A true waste of space type of player. Shouldn't be hard for Miles at all to replace White and have the wins start rolling in next year.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebaske...grad_transfer_andrew_white_help_syracuse.html
If true, the Syracuse perspective.
If true, the Syracuse perspective.
Cuse fans must have not watched any tape on him...or have him confused with Jack McVeigh.
Just relaying what I've heard. I'm sure he will continue to develop his skills across the board, but it sounds like he was fully embracing that role during his draft tryouts. From the OWH:
White doesn’t appear in any mock draft projections or top 100 prospects lists. He is marketing himself to NBA teams as a situational 3-point shooter. He was fourth in the Big Ten and 51st nationally last season at 41.2 percent from long range.
“From watching some of the NBA combine stuff, a shooting specialist is so rare,” he said. “With my potential, my IQ and my ability to do that, I think that’s what gives me a shot more so than other underrated guys who are solid all-around players."
Husker Nation embraces the jilted lover role like few other fan bases.
That makes sense.
Has he lived in Nebraska long enought to switch sports and be considered an instate fullback candidate? That seems to be the hottest topic these days is to offer a scholarship to an out of state fullback or convince an in state player to walkon.
Jesus, busts or not, the guy has numerous guys in the NBA right now including I think 5 or 6 guys who score 8+ per game.
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I am not sure too many NBA teams would really want a kid who played for 3 different college's. If he wanted to showcase his 3 point shooting at a big time program, WTF happened at KU? KU is a much bigger program than Cuse or even Louisville. IMO White appears to be a prima donna. He's not getting the results he wanted in college so it must be the school. But there is one common denominator here so it's likely the actual problem and that's himself.
The transferring to 2 times and playing for 3 different schools is a red flag and GM's in the NBA will see that.
The transferring to 2 times and playing for 3 different schools is a red flag and GM's in the NBA will see that.
The KU transfer would have been forgivable on its own since he was behind Wiggins, but the second transfer looks really bad. Not to mention that he's already 23, which is ancient for an NBA prospect in today's game.
Listen - White is a damn good basketball player. He may or may not be good enough to get a roster spot in the NBA, but there's no reason to come down on the guy at this point. He made his decision. He's gone. I can guarantee you I'd rather have him playing for Nebraska, but thats' not happening. Good luck kid.
I just don't see how playing at Syracuse will improve his draft stock significantly. Especially since his defense is often cited as one of his major weaknesses, and Syracuse plays a 2-3 zone.
I'll admit he has a much better chance of showcasing himself in the NCAA Tournament at Syracuse than here. But if that's what he wants, why not stay at Kansas? Plus Bill Self has a pretty good record of developing NBA talent. You'd have to think he'd be good enough to start at KU by now if he would have stayed there and worked his butt off. And if not, then he has no chance of playing in the NBA.
To NBA scouts, it has to look bad that this is the second time that he has run from a challenge.
The thing is, Wiggins declared for the draft in 2014. So White would not have been behind him the last 2 years if he had stayed at KU. KU was actually pretty thin at the 2-guard position the last 2 years. Their best guard was Wayne Selden who did not get drafted. If White really believes he has NBA potential, it seems like it would have been smarter to stay at KU.
With that said, I don't believe he is a prima donna. He seems to be someone who was very well-liked by everyone both here and KU. I think it is more influence from his father and former AAU coaches that are responsible for his transfers.
You have to remember, KU also brought in yop 10 recruit Kelly Oubre after Wiggins and Svi Mckhyliuuk (sp) as well as having Brannen Greene on the team as well who some call the purest shooter in the college game (when his head was on straight). White didn't have the overall game to play at KU period. Great kid though and can flat out stroke it. I still wish him well. Much like KU in football, unfortunately sometimes you have to settle on the Bridesmaide role even though it sucks.
So he thinks he's gunna make the NBA being a spot-up situational shooter? Hmmm...probably not? We could list names of guys who left school or exhausted eligibility last year that were much better players than AWIII. Ron Baker, Wayne Seldon, Uthoff, Poythress, and the list goes on. AWIII best opportunity to improve his game and become a much more rounded basketball player was at Nebraska. By staying and being the man here, would have given him a better chance at getting drafted even if that chance was like .1%. I believe him and Miles had a falling out and dad or his circle felt he would be better off at another school..the verdict is out.
I always wondered if White wouldn't have done better than Greene. I think Greene was a better shooter, but he was deficient in a lot of other aspects of the game. Plus he seemed to have a crap attitude, as opposed to White. Greene was not welcome back for his senior year.
I always said give me White over Greene but I was in the minority on our board.
We had two guys that play the wing transfer in the off season and lost our pf who was a frosh to the draft.
He have a great frosh class coming in but lack returning proven scorers which is what he is.
Going to be tough to showcase himself with at MSU with Eron Harris, Miles Bridges, and Josh Langford all there. White would be the 4th most talented wing on his own team.
He would go from averaging 18 points a game probably down to 11. Not saying the NBA cares all that much about points per game, as many Kentucky guys average around 11 - 13 and go on to score 18+ in the big leagues... but those guys are all around players. Will be interesting to see. Very interesting if Mich State comes to Lincoln to hear the crowd react. I don't think it would be supportive.
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