If he wins 9 games this year I think he gets coach of the year. I think a bowl game to keep his job.He has a chance at 8 wins and is a definite keep at 9. IMO.
I think 6-6 or worse, he's gone. If they go 7-5, then he'll be back.Really hoping this staff can turn it around. GBR!
1981 - Osborne's 9th season we started the year 1 and 2. Granted the second loss was to third ranked Penn St in Lincoln and not an unranked MAC Team, but, the defense put it together and gave up a total of 6 points over the next four games.
As you stated that team was coached by Tom. Big difference.
False.And he was about six years past from nearly getting fired, and couldn't win the "The Big One" for another 13 years. He'd have never survived in the internet age.
1981 - Osborne's 9th season we started the year 1 and 2. Granted the second loss was to third ranked Penn St in Lincoln and not an unranked MAC Team, but, the defense put it together and gave up a total of 6 points over the next four games.
False.
Did he ever have a losing season, and a multi-decade track record of .500 performance? Pretty crazy to say TO would not have survived the internet age, seeing as many on here are still defending Riley's vast record of head coaching performance.And he was about six years past from nearly getting fired, and couldn't win the "The Big One" for another 13 years. He'd have never survived in the internet age.
The other loss was to an Iowa team that went to the Rose Bowl. The win was against #19 Florida State. The next game was against Auburn, and by the end of the year we were playing for the national championship.
The other loss was to an Iowa team that went to the Rose Bowl. The win was against #19 Florida State. The next game was against Auburn, and by the end of the year we were playing for the national championship.
Did he ever have a losing season, and a multi-decade track record of .500 performance? Pretty crazy to say TO would not have survived the internet age, seeing as many on here are still defending Riley's vast record of head coaching performance.
1981 we finished 11th and were 4th going into the bowl. Playing for the national title means if you win the title. Alabama, Texas and Penn St would all have had to lose. Problem is Texas and Alabama were playing each other.
Yes-it was pretty clear before the game that we were going to win the championship in one poll if we beat Clemson.I remember by the end of the night 2 and 3 had lost. I'd have to look at the bowl pairings again, but I remember the Sugar finishing before the Orange and knowing it was ours for the taking. Maybe just in one poll, but we had it right there.
Yes-it was pretty clear before the game that we were going to win the championship in one poll if we beat Clemson.
I just checked the final AP regular season poll for 1981. Georgia was #2 and Alabama was #3. Both had already lost. As the #4 team, we would have won the championship had we won. Texas was #6. Penn State was #7. Neither of them was going to move above us.1981 we finished 11th and were 4th going into the bowl. Playing for the national title means if you win the title. Alabama, Texas and Penn St would all have had to lose. Problem is Texas and Alabama were playing each other.
I got that. It's just telling of how much our base has changed when we're trying to give a coach with a .500 record a break, but we tried to run coaches out of town who only lost 1-2 games/season.From the same fan base who started a petition to fire Devaney.
His never having a losing season wasn't good enough for 21 years. I remember it well.
The World Hearld pretty much stated after 1990 it was probably time for him to move on.
I got that. It's just telling of how much our base has changed when we're trying to give a coach with a .500 record a break, but we tried to run coaches out of town who only lost 1-2 games/season.
Agreed. Starting from square one essentially.IF Riley is fired, I don't care who we bring in. This program will struggle for a few years, and some of our fan base will want the guy fired in year 1.
I want Riley to succeed only because if he doesn't, the program is just that much further from relevancy. The is no quick fix.
From the same fan base who started a petition to fire Devaney.
His never having a losing season wasn't good enough for 21 years. I remember it well.
The World Hearld pretty much stated after 1990 it was probably time for him to move on.
And he was about six years past from nearly getting fired, and couldn't win the "The Big One" for another 13 years. He'd have never survived in the internet age.[/QUOT
I agree coaches got a longer period to establish themselves before the internet age. Whether Tom would survive in the internet age can only be speculation. Tom was more savvy with the press than most of the coaches of today. He had a knack of not really saying anything, yet not pissing anyone off either. Tom "almost" getting fired has been overblown as well. Sure there were some who were unhappy about losing to OU (first 10 years I believe) and the early bowl games. All it took is him talking to CU and the whole state freaked out. There was never any talk of it again.
Fans or the World Herald don't fire the coach the Regents and the AD do. TO was on the hot seat as far as fans were concerned when he couldn't win the big one and thankfully he didn't leave for Colorado. Bob Devaney also had his back while he was AD until 1993 and even in an internet age wouldn't have buckled under any fan criticisms IMO.
Bo was here for 7 years and some of his atrocious loses didn't result in him being fired. TO was AD and that certainly had something to do with it but Bo was fired probably more for the toxic program he created and for his personal issues that were on display every Saturday.
usually the boosters handle this and we have all this new B1G money too.. the money is not a problem.The Athletic Dept will be paying over $210,000 per month till the end of 2018 in salaries for Bo and SE. If MR is let go before 2019 that will add another $189,000 per month to that number... I don't know how that number can be met and paying top dollar for an experienced top notch coach. I think MR will be here another year after this one and he will have a chance to get his players some more experience and hopefully a chance for them to pull their heads out of their arse.