For a program that counts wins against high school teams this would actually hurt them
What punishment should Michigan receive
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Okay, don't vacate wins. But for the teams they beat, change their losses to wins. Then we go to a bowl game for sure. Lol.
No body cares. Only the people who don't like the coach, team, care. you know, all those haters. People doing shitty things is what entertains us. So why would we punish it?
Also, we're becoming better as humans, evolutioning and sheeeeit so punishing people for anything just isn't right. We have to reward it. Celebrate it somehow while making villains of anyone left out there with any morals who has to stick their Karen noses in other peoples business.
Also, we're becoming better as humans, evolutioning and sheeeeit so punishing people for anything just isn't right. We have to reward it. Celebrate it somehow while making villains of anyone left out there with any morals who has to stick their Karen noses in other peoples business.
Forfeit wins for the seasons they cheated. No bowl game for as many seasons they cheated. An admission of guilt and an apology to everyone involved with College Football and all of us fans.
The Michigan staff should be branded with a capital C on their chests. You are teaching kids that cheating is just fine.. should be ashamed of themselves.
The Michigan staff should be branded with a capital C on their chests. You are teaching kids that cheating is just fine.. should be ashamed of themselves.
I wouldn't go SMU levels but something needs to be done. If this gets a pass everyone will be doing what they did and every game will be an Iowa game, 5-3.
Players who knew lose eligibility. Coaches are banned from ever coaching again. No postseason for 3 years and loss of scholarships.
Players who knew lose eligibility. Coaches are banned from ever coaching again. No postseason for 3 years and loss of scholarships.
Stalions should be Caned, publicly, in front of the Student Union in Ann Arbor. Singapore-style. As opposed to Beheaded Saudi-style. Call it a day.
They were obviously ‘stealing signs’, which if done properly is by all accounts LEGAL and frankly smart to do if one can accomplish it well… has it been verified that what they did was illegal? Or are we as Nebraska fans just considering it Immoral? If so need to certainly clarify what constitutes a violation of NCAA policy. Asking out of naïveté…
They were obviously ‘stealing signs’, which if done properly is by all accounts LEGAL and frankly smart to do if one can accomplish it well… has it been verified that what they did was illegal? Or are we as Nebraska fans just considering it Immoral? If so need to certainly clarify what constitutes a violation of NCAA policy. Asking out of naïveté…
the punishment should be zero. in what world do sports teams not scout their opponents? this is all about harbaugh hate, not the game, rules, or ethics.
of course the simple fix is to use radio communications between coaches and teams, like you know in the nfl? but that's far too simple for these fools to figure.
of course the simple fix is to use radio communications between coaches and teams, like you know in the nfl? but that's far too simple for these fools to figure.
The punishment won't be zero.
Hardbaugh was under investigation at the beginning of the season... He wasn't smart enough to cool it after the first investigation, and I believe there may be a message sent that 'they' don't want him in College Athletics any longer.
I do think that makes sense. Vacating wins means that team lost, which means the other team won. So give them the win.
Be the little spoon to Coach Harbau... wait, that is punishment for everyone else. Gimme a minute.
Which one of those three things is the worst punishment?
^^^^^ exactly, 1000%. Thinking Michigan was just doing it better than others. Was also tickled pink when TCU got wise and switched up their signs... their 'sign stealing' theoretically have TCU a huge advantage, if ya think about it. Intentional misdirection. Part of most every sport. It's a TRADITION.
Don't like it? Eliminate the need for it. They are NOT the only program doing this, FAR FROM IT. Anyone with the capability probably is or has. We don't need some example to be made, because everyone else will just try and find a 'better' way to do the same thing. There are cheap and easy ways to level the playing field here.
Interesting that the non-Nebraska fans think that there should be no punishment.
Nah am just pissed at the continuing state of affairs, as opposed to your obviously being content with mediocrity. Don't be confused with the difference.
This is like a bunch of preschoolers all wanting to play with the same toy at recess and the biggest kid always muscling it away - you could publicly shame the big kid, OR just give em all the same f*cking thing without creating some stupid controversy. Whatever...
what they should? idk. but i assume it will be something comparable to the astros punishment so i assume some kind of fine and a loss of scholarships prob forfeit some wins.
Really, What are the other programs that are doing it?
Well no, but first time since this past summer.
We need to become relevant again and start winning national titles. Everything else will take care of itself after that.
have said many times Nebraska is the B1G's only hope
There's WAY MORE than what you describe. Scouting is fine. Sending people to opponents games and video recording is ILLEGAL.
Big difference
All they need to do is let Harbaugh know that he might prefer the climate of the high plains desert in Vegas rather than the Great Lakes area. Then they should throw the Sears Trophy they never won into the dumpster and inform the NCAA that all matters have been taken care of internally and the NCAA has no meaningful input to today's sports world. They spit the bit years ago as NIL and transfer portals took over the game.
👆👆👆this is the most rational answer. No amount of punishment will make up for what they did, it’s time the NCAA and everyone else think of the big picture. Preventing anyone from ever doing it again is best for all involved.
They already know our plays so this should be easy peasy for them to pick up...
If this conference is as bad as you claim, there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to win it.
So what would happen if there was no punishment? Could all the other schools get together and refuse to play Michigan? What would the powers-that-be do about that?
Valid response by teams if the punishment is minimal or non existent
So Noah Shannon bet on one Iowa womens BB game and he has to sit out the season, He knew the rules and broke them. His infraction had no bearing on the outcome of any football game, So I am left wondering how you deal out appropriate punishment when the outcome of actual games may have been affected? How do you justify the punishment given to a player if you are not ready to give equal or even more severe punishment to the powers that be at Michigan.
Noah Shannon didn’t have a team of lawyers or a sycophant university president behind him. We’ll see if that makes a difference.
