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What is the magic number next year?

NU needs to win the West next season. A year ago, Eichorst said he wants to win championships and win the games that matter. We should not lower expectations based on the coach Eichorst hired.

NO MORE EXCUSES
 
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I'll say 8 wins should allow him to keep his job. I think they should add in the additional 'rider' "Ridiculously stupid 4th down calls will not be tolerated."

That play call is going to piss me off for quite some time.
 
Is POB a suitable QB?

Even if he is/isn't/don't know yet, given our schedule next year, 10+ wins would be tough even for a all-B1G 3rd team QB. Just look at Michigans 5th year QB. Crazy talk.
He may be after a little seasoning. I don't expect a true frosh to come in and win 10 games, but if he is a good fit, I will expect it in his 2nd year (if he gets plenty of game-time in his first year). If / when we get the necessary depth and development, I will absolutely expect 10 or more wins every year, because we won't be relying on a true frosh to lead the team. 10 or more won't happen every year, but the plan is that balancing out the 8 or 9 wins seasons will be the 11 or more win seasons.
 
I'll say 8 wins should allow him to keep his job. I think they should add in the additional 'rider' "Ridiculously stupid 4th down calls will not be tolerated."

That play call is going to piss me off for quite some time.
Do you understand that there was a wide open receiver just a few yards away from our QB?
 
NU needs to win the West next season. A year ago, Eichorst said he wants to win championships and win the games that matter. We should not lower expectations based on the coach Eichorst hired.

NO MORE EXCUSES
The expectations have been raised, not lowered. Think about it.
 
Do you understand that there was a wide open receiver just a few yards away from our QB?
No, because like Tommy some people make up their mind and refuse to look at other options before things even develope.
 
It doesn't matter. A pass play should have NEVER been called. Kick the FG and get your team within 1 possession. Inexcusable!
Hilarious. Doesn't matter that it was a great play-call resulting in a wide-open receiver who could have easily scored, the coach is an idiot because they didn't kick it. Okay.
 
Hilarious. Doesn't matter that it was a great play-call resulting in a wide-open receiver who could have easily scored, the coach is an idiot because they didn't kick it. Okay.

Would you have trusted Tommy to make: 1) the correct read; AND 2) a catchable throw?

Food for thought.
 
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You know its 9 wins..f that get a QB.......if he is such good coach the team will improve enough to get to 9 to 10 wins.

No excuses......Iowa just went 12-0

We will be the laughing stock of college football until we win 9 games....apparently LSU didn't want to take our place.

This isn't the Big 12, they play defense in this conference. You must be able to run the ball. That's what broke our defenses back ...back toback TD runs.
 
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less than 2 wins and he should be let go.. anything above that is just icing on the cake while MR takes a few years to develop a championship caliber team. also, he's keeping the players out of trouble and that is worth a lot...

The ball was gone before Carter came open...yeah he was open, and what if the defense tipped the ball when he passed it..maybe they were waiting on him to throw it to block it...Anything can happen when you throw the ball...hell even the announcers stated how stupid it was to not kick a field goal.....

This coaching staff is terrible.
 
The ball was gone before Carter came open...yeah he was open, and what if the defense tipped the ball when he passed it..maybe they were waiting on him to throw it to block it...Anything can happen when you throw the ball...hell even the announcers stated how stupid it was to not kick a field goal.....

This coaching staff is terrible.
Says the biggest TA fan on this board. He's a gamer for sure, but he is not cut out for this job. Sorry man.
 
Would you have trusted Tommy to make: 1) the correct read; AND 2) a catchable throw?

Food for thought.
Yes, you are so wise, nobody has thought of that. Now that I think about it, you are right, they should run the ball 100% of the time because 1) Tommy cannot make a correct read; AND 2) Tommy can't throw a catchable ball. And Jeans "liking" your post is one of the dumbest things I have seen on this board in a while, since Jeans has a man-crush on TA.
 
Coaching is about more than play calls. Tommy made the same mistakes throughout the year and had his worst game at the end. Coaches failed to improve him or bench the unimprovable
 
Coaching is about more than play calls. Tommy made the same mistakes throughout the year and had his worst game at the end. Coaches failed to improve him or bench the unimprovable
That's fair, considering this is probably the first time TA has ever tried to run an offense like this. Bench him for Fyfe? Wait, I know, they suck for not getting one of the other guys good enough to take time away from TA.
 
I didn't know other systems call for the throws or dropback spins he makes. My bad. :rolleyes:
 
Hilarious. Doesn't matter that it was a great play-call resulting in a wide-open receiver who could have easily scored, the coach is an idiot because they didn't kick it. Okay.

What's hilarious is that you think you are correct on this, when you couldn't be any further from being correct. Langsdorf made a horrendously bad call on the 4th and 1. Great play call? You and I have different definitions of a "great play call." Most great play calls that I've seen have one common theme. They succeed.

Most coaches are thinking that they may have maybe 2 possessions to score 11 points with the amount of time we had left on the clock. That means we can't come away without scoring points in either of those 2 possessions. And what happened? We didn't score any points, and essentially ended our chances of being able to tie the game up, despite having what would appear to have been another possession left.

It doesn't really matter which we score first, because we know we have to score a FG, TD, and a 2-point conversion. Granted, scoring the TD and 2-point conversion would be great, because we would only have to kick a FG on our last possession, but getting stopped on 3rd and 1 ensured that kicking the FG was our safest bet on 4th and 1 to keep our chances alive during our last possession.

If you don't score any points on the first of the 2 possessions, you essentially end your opportunity to tie the game, without even getting to the 2nd possession. You have to call the play that gives you the best chance to score points, and allows you to still tie it up with the 2nd possession.

Kicking the FG is the surest way of getting to that 2nd possession to be able to tie it, because running or passing it on 4th and 1 present more inherent risk of not getting the 1st down.
 
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Because that's what the coaches are teaching him? I mistook you for a reasonable poster. Get some sleep.
That's not what I meant. The different systems bull crap is a weak excuse for the throws and regression we have seen considering they would be poor throws in any system. Our coaches aren't doing their job to get him to fix these problems....or they put too much faith in him. Coaching is about more than calling plays.
 
He may be after a little seasoning. I don't expect a true frosh to come in and win 10 games, but if he is a good fit, I will expect it in his 2nd year (if he gets plenty of game-time in his first year). If / when we get the necessary depth and development, I will absolutely expect 10 or more wins every year, because we won't be relying on a true frosh to lead the team. 10 or more won't happen every year, but the plan is that balancing out the 8 or 9 wins seasons will be the 11 or more win seasons.
Please put your projected W/L next to each game for 2017 and 2018. Remember, Michigan with big time recruit classes, an elite level coach, and an experienced starting 5th year D1 QB doesn't have 10 wins.
 
I don't think he has a number next year. It's his 3rd year that will matter. University will not pay Pelini for not being here, Riley for not being here and a new coach for being here. I truly think that MR will get 3-5 years depending on how well he does in year 3. Then they better hire a coach that runs the same style of offense or we waste another 2 years on learning and recruiting to a new system. Please MR, get this ship sailing in the right direction starting NOW. But I still don't get with his age, how long he will coach anyways and it's not like he 2 main assistants are spring chickens either to take over if he retires after 7 years.

This was just a bad hire in every way.
 
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The ball was gone before Carter came open...yeah he was open, and what if the defense tipped the ball when he passed it..maybe they were waiting on him to throw it to block it...Anything can happen when you throw the ball...hell even the announcers stated how stupid it was to not kick a field goal.....

This coaching staff is terrible.
Exactly very good post, it was dumb call that contributed to a losing season of which Riley now joins Callahan as the only coaches in modern times to do that at NU

This staff just has to many issues to fix - Finding a QB to run a pass first oriented system that should never be run at NU is the least of the problems

Riley is not a good head coach and he has hired even worse Coordinators

Langsdork is an idiot and whats more he is an idiot that refuses to acknowledge he is one - he calls plays to be cute and look smart and not because it is a good play

Banker is Cosgrove part two

For those of you hanging your hat on the "Games were close" just wait til next year when we play Oregon and Ohio State and WI is back up to speed
 
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Hmmmm, going back to the OP, I suppose 8 or more regular season wins and I would call it successful. 5 to 7 wins is a failure but is still enough to retain. 0 to 4 wins is a failure and is unacceptable, would be time to cut him loose.

The people responsible for retaining/firing Riley likely have a much different criteria. Since I'm not in a position to influence the outcome, it doesn't matter much to me.
 
That's fair, considering this is probably the first time TA has ever tried to run an offense like this. Bench him for Fyfe? Wait, I know, they suck for not getting one of the other guys good enough to take time away from TA.

Michigan State showed what you do with an inexperienced 2nd string quarterback when Cook was unavailable against Ohio State. They played conservatively and ran the ball on almost every play. We played Purdue that had one of the worst defenses against the run and had our 2nd string QB throw the ball over 50 times.
 
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Michigan State showed what you do with an inexperienced 2nd string quarterback when Cook was unavailable against Ohio State. They played conservatively and ran the ball on almost every play. We played Purdue that had one of the worst defenses against the run and had our 2nd string QB throw the ball over 50 times.

Just one of the examples of our coaching staff's incompetence. It's going to be a long 2 more years, I fear.
 
I agree SE won't get to pick the next coach........or at least the Chancellor will be removed from any decision making with Athletics. That should go to the President of the U......I believe I did read that this is possibly where it's heading........

Regarding wins, if you look at the schedule. 7 wins....

09/03 Fresno State Lincoln - W
09/10 Wyoming Lincoln - W
09/17 Oregon Lincoln - L
09/24 #Northwestern Evanston - L
10/01 #Illinois Lincoln - W
10/15 #Indiana Bloomington - W
10/22 #Purdue Lincoln - W
10/29 #Wisconsin Madison - L
11/05 #Ohio State Columbus - L
11/12 #Minnesota Lincoln - W
11/19 #Maryland Lincoln - W
11/25 #Iowa Iowa City - L
 
I agree SE won't get to pick the next coach........or at least the Chancellor will be removed from any decision making with Athletics. That should go to the President of the U......I believe I did read that this is possibly where it's heading........

Regarding wins, if you look at the schedule. 7 wins....

09/03 Fresno State Lincoln - W
09/10 Wyoming Lincoln - W
09/17 Oregon Lincoln - L
09/24 #Northwestern Evanston - L
10/01 #Illinois Lincoln - W
10/15 #Indiana Bloomington - W
10/22 #Purdue Lincoln - W
10/29 #Wisconsin Madison - L
11/05 #Ohio State Columbus - L
11/12 #Minnesota Lincoln - W
11/19 #Maryland Lincoln - W
11/25 #Iowa Iowa City - L
I could see Indiana being a loss down there.
 
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