What is Eichorst's End Game?

[Captain Nick]

Howdy, havnt been here in a few months but I have an honest question for you fine folks. Can anybody explain to me why or how they see the MR era ending in any way that isn't a complete dumpster fire that's going to continue to set this program back?

Sorry if that came off a little harsh, but the reality of the situation and lack of long term vision within this program should be very alarming. As far as I remember, MR was brought in for two reasons. To be the anti-Bo and to make an immediate impact on the field and to get us over the 9 win hump. Well, he's certainly not BP (well done!) but the immediate improvement isn't happening. Here's the problem, he's 62 years old. Unless he finds Ponce de Leon's fountain of youth he's not going to be here for the long haul. I've heard some folks say he needs a few recruiting classes to run his system. Okay, and then what? We do this all over again in a few years when he decides to retire and the next coach want's to implement whatever system he prefers? MR isn't going to be coaching long enough for a complete rebuild (nor should we as fans have to wait for one). I'm not too sure he can even give a satisfactory answer to his current recruits whether or not he plans to still be around throughout their playing careers. Last I heard he was still living at the Embassy Suits. That's not exactly a sign that he's putting down strong roots here. So what's the end game that everyone was hoping for? For MR to somehow get things humming and then pass the reigns off to Langsdorf in a few years? Wishful thinking is nice, but going through all of this on the bet that Langsdorf is the great white hope is insane. I'm willing to bet that 99% of husker fans had never even heard of him 12 months ago.

What I saw on Sat. was a team playing with no heart or passion. I'm concerned that this coaching staff has already lost this team. Best case scenario at this point, as far as I'm concerned is at the end of the season MR and his wife decide that their "last great adventure" didn't work out, he goes back to Oregon to retire (where his heart is) and spends lots of time with his grandson, while we move on. No hard feelings. Probably not going to happen but hey, we can all dream right? But I fear the longer this goes on the more long term damage this program is going to suffer.

 

[HudsonValleyHusker]

Howdy, havnt been here in a few months but I have an honest question for you fine folks. Can anybody explain to me why or how they see the MR era ending in any way that isn't a complete dumpster fire that's going to continue to set this program back?

Sorry if that came off a little harsh, but the reality of the situation and lack of long term vision within this program should be very alarming. As far as I remember, MR was brought in for two reasons. To be the anti-Bo and to make an immediate impact on the field and to get us over the 9 win hump. Well, he's certainly not BP (well done!) but the immediate improvement isn't happening. Here's the problem, he's 62 years old. Unless he finds Ponce de Leon's fountain of youth he's not going to be here for the long haul. I've heard some folks say he needs a few recruiting classes to run his system. Okay, and then what? We do this all over again in a few years when he decides to retire and the next coach want's to implement whatever system he prefers? MR isn't going to be coaching long enough for a complete rebuild (nor should we as fans have to wait for one). I'm not too sure he can even give a satisfactory answer to his current recruits whether or not he plans to still be around throughout their playing careers. Last I heard he was still living at the Embassy Suits. That's not exactly a sign that he's putting down strong roots here. So what's the end game that everyone was hoping for? For MR to somehow get things humming and then pass the reigns off to Langsdorf in a few years? Wishful thinking is nice, but going through all of this on the bet that Langsdorf is the great white hope is insane. I'm willing to bet that 99% of husker fans had never even heard of him 12 months ago.

What I saw on Sat. was a team playing with no heart or passion. I'm concerned that this coaching staff has already lost this team. Best case scenario at this point, as far as I'm concerned is at the end of the season MR and his wife decide that their "last great adventure" didn't work out, he goes back to Oregon to retire (where his heart is) and spends lots of time with his grandson, while we move on. No hard feelings. Probably not going to happen but hey, we can all dream right? But I fear the longer this goes on the more long term damage this program is going to suffer.

I was hoping that the wife unit couldn't adjust to living in the midwest and Riley decides to step down after the season for family reasons. The fact that we won't be playing in a bowl game should hopefully give us enough time to find a competent coach and still salvage the recruiting class.

 

[kaz36]

I was hoping that the wife unit couldn't adjust to living in the midwest and Riley decides to step down after the season for family reasons. The fact that we won't be playing in a bowl game should hopefully give us enough time to find a competent coach and still salvage the recruiting class.

Geezus. Posts like this are seriously embarrassing.

 

[planored]

2nd that Kaz, so many dumb asses

 

[HuskerLegion]

I don't want MR to fail at all. However the OP brings up some good points about his age. I don't see him staying here for 10 years even if he starts winning they way we would like. Who does he pass it all onto? So many questions. For the time being all we can do is wait and hope that some of the horrible play calling and game management mistakes get fixed. I just can't believe that those things are an issue with what is supposed to be a veteran staff. Simple stuff being made so much more difficult than it needs to be. GBR

 

[HuskerO]

Probably not going to happen but hey, we can all dream right?

If you're gonna dream then why not dream for Riley to become very successful while at Nebraska and win us a few titles?

 

[chipotlehusker]

Howdy, havnt been here in a few months but I have an honest question for you fine folks. Can anybody explain to me why or how they see the MR era ending in any way that isn't a complete dumpster fire that's going to continue to set this program back?

Sorry if that came off a little harsh, but the reality of the situation and lack of long term vision within this program should be very alarming. As far as I remember, MR was brought in for two reasons. To be the anti-Bo and to make an immediate impact on the field and to get us over the 9 win hump. Well, he's certainly not BP (well done!) but the immediate improvement isn't happening. Here's the problem, he's 62 years old. Unless he finds Ponce de Leon's fountain of youth he's not going to be here for the long haul. I've heard some folks say he needs a few recruiting classes to run his system. Okay, and then what? We do this all over again in a few years when he decides to retire and the next coach want's to implement whatever system he prefers? MR isn't going to be coaching long enough for a complete rebuild (nor should we as fans have to wait for one). I'm not too sure he can even give a satisfactory answer to his current recruits whether or not he plans to still be around throughout their playing careers. Last I heard he was still living at the Embassy Suits. That's not exactly a sign that he's putting down strong roots here. So what's the end game that everyone was hoping for? For MR to somehow get things humming and then pass the reigns off to Langsdorf in a few years? Wishful thinking is nice, but going through all of this on the bet that Langsdorf is the great white hope is insane. I'm willing to bet that 99% of husker fans had never even heard of him 12 months ago.

What I saw on Sat. was a team playing with no heart or passion. I'm concerned that this coaching staff has already lost this team. Best case scenario at this point, as far as I'm concerned is at the end of the season MR and his wife decide that their "last great adventure" didn't work out, he goes back to Oregon to retire (where his heart is) and spends lots of time with his grandson, while we move on. No hard feelings. Probably not going to happen but hey, we can all dream right? But I fear the longer this goes on the more long term damage this program is going to suffer.

very wise observations...
very wise observations...

 

[BornNBredRed]

Many coaches work until 70 or 72. Nobody with half a brain believes that a coach is ever brought in to have "immediate" improvement in the wins and losses. It was determined that we tried a completely unproven coach and that did not work. It actually damaged the national reputation of the brand. Riley was brought here to bring respect back to NU on and off the field....and that will take a few years.

 

[Crushinator]

Thank goodness the tide seems to be changing back toward sanity around here.

 

[crinin the thane]

Many coaches work until 70 or 72. Nobody with half a brain believes that a coach is ever brought in to have "immediate" improvement in the wins and losses. It was determined that we tried a completely unproven coach and that did not work. It actually damaged the national reputation of the brand. Riley was brought here to bring respect back to NU on and off the field....and that will take a few years.

9 wins to 5 wins with national media wondering why our coaches suck at game management isn't exactly putting us on the trajectory you suggest. Just sayin'

 

[NikkiSixx]

In my opinion, the MR end game is: all about Mike doing HIS last big hurrah.

 

[Captain Nick]

Many coaches work until 70 or 72. Nobody with half a brain believes that a coach is ever brought in to have "immediate" improvement in the wins and losses. It was determined that we tried a completely unproven coach and that did not work. It actually damaged the national reputation of the brand. Riley was brought here to bring respect back to NU on and off the field....and that will take a few years.

I didn't say immediate improvement in wins and loses. I said immediate improvement on the field i.e. better fundamentals, fewer mental mistakes, thoughtful game planning, in game adjustments, the ability to understand how a clock works, etc. I think it's fair to say most hoped for, if not expected at least that. As far as wins and losses, coaches ARE brought in all the time to have immediate improvement in "wins and loses". They're not hired in the hopes that we'll start winning less. Never the less, I'll grant you that many probably didn't expect 9 nine wins this season. But I can probably guarantee you that nobody expected to be 2-3 at this point either. However, none of this really has anything to do with my point or my question.

It was a bad hire from day one. SE had no long term vision for this program and I'm starting to wonder if he had any short term vision either because I can't find anything on MR's resume that says he deserved a job like the one at NU. The only criteria that SE took into account, that I can see is that MR is the opposite of BP. SE spent an entire press conference talking about the right "fit". Well, "fit" can be a very relative term. You don't have to be a tea sippin' good ol' boy to win in the SEC and you don't have to be a grease ball with a spray on tan to have success out east. SE and MR are being very well compensated to do a job and right now the place is going up in flames.





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[dinglefritz]

I know Mike Riley has a multi-year contract and that we are playing a TON of freshmen and sophomores. We have a 3 year starter at QB that will just get better. We have one of the top high school QBs commited along with some top high school and JUCO linebackers commited. This ship is NOT going to take long to turn around. I know from talking with people close to the program in Lincoln that the Riley staff has been a breath of fresh air. I KNEW that this transition was going to have some bumps especially given our lack of depth at linebacker and DE. Banker and his staff have shown the ability to get underclassmen and walkons up to speed and get some good play out of them especially at DE and linebacker. Now we just have to get more consistent on offense. We are FIVE games in to a totally new offense. Counting Alexander, Santos, and Moss we lost 3 starters off the roster. Counting Valentine, Bando and MRI we have lost 3 more guys to injury. That's SIX guys that should be starting for us right now and yet the Banker's defense played pretty damned well for all but about 5 plays on Saturday. I like our chances to be pretty darned good pretty quickly in the future.

 

[leodisflowers]

I know Mike Riley has a multi-year contract and that we are playing a TON of freshmen and sophomores. We have a 3 year starter at QB that will just get better. We have one of the top high school QBs commited along with some top high school and JUCO linebackers commited. This ship is NOT going to take long to turn around. I know from talking with people close to the program in Lincoln that the Riley staff has been a breath of fresh air. I KNEW that this transition was going to have some bumps especially given our lack of depth at linebacker and DE. Banker and his staff have shown the ability to get underclassmen and walkons up to speed and get some good play out of them especially at DE and linebacker. Now we just have to get more consistent on offense. We are FIVE games in to a totally new offense. Counting Alexander, Santos, and Moss we lost 3 starters off the roster. Counting Valentine, Bando and MRI we have lost 3 more guys to injury. That's SIX guys that should be starting for us right now and yet the Banker's defense played pretty damned well for all but about 5 plays on Saturday. I like our chances to be pretty darned good pretty quickly in the future.

I don't disagree, and we have to get more consistency on both sides of the ball. I think it is the world we live in anymore, but I just don't see the passion anymore.