In fact one sportswriter last spring said Riley would not have received the pressure from the Oregon State fan base and would still be in Corvallis if he would have just managed the games well. He has now given two games away because of his piss poor game management.
We were told this staff cannot manage the game...
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I thought it was managed pretty well. We got the clock stopped for them with 50 seconds still left.
Funny how that works. Wisconsin fans warned us about Cosgrove; we saw how that worked out. We're now seeing the same from Riley. As I've mentioned in previous posts, Riley has never been more than an average college HC. That's not something that magically changes when a coach takes a new job.
This year feels a lot like 2004.
This year feels a lot like 2004.
they need to take any important decision making out of the hand of their QB down the stretch .... that is completely on the coaches and I would support some if not all losing their jobs for leaving any important decision late in the game, no matter how fundamental, in the hands of TA jr. the guy just comes up small time and time again in the biggest moments and shame on the coaches for not realizing this
Good one!Here is just a sampling of articles from last year...
"There’s also no doubt fan interest at OSU has been waning, as the Beavers finished 5-7 this year and 7-6 in 2013. Riley suffered two recent losses to Football Championship Subdivision teams (Sacramento State in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013), and hadn’t beaten rival Oregon since 2007. Add in bewildering clock management, a crawling offensive pace, unbridled loyalty to assistants and the inconceivable 2012 Alamo Bowl choke job, and it was clear both sides needed to see new people."
"Through the Riley era, the Beavers have had problems with such things as clock management and determining whether to challenge referees’ calls. The head coach is on the headset with offensive coordinator Danny Langsdorf through the game. Either Langsdorf or someone sitting with him in the booth needs to be in charge of alerting Riley to such critical matters."
"His system is flawed - defense and running the ball will win games consistently," one reader said. "His in-game coaching leaves a lot to be desired - clock management?!"
"There’s also no doubt fan interest at OSU has been waning, as the Beavers finished 5-7 this year and 7-6 in 2013. Riley suffered two recent losses to Football Championship Subdivision teams (Sacramento State in 2011 and Eastern Washington in 2013), and hadn’t beaten rival Oregon since 2007. Add in bewildering clock management, a crawling offensive pace, unbridled loyalty to assistants and the inconceivable 2012 Alamo Bowl choke job, and it was clear both sides needed to see new people."
"Through the Riley era, the Beavers have had problems with such things as clock management and determining whether to challenge referees’ calls. The head coach is on the headset with offensive coordinator Danny Langsdorf through the game. Either Langsdorf or someone sitting with him in the booth needs to be in charge of alerting Riley to such critical matters."
"His system is flawed - defense and running the ball will win games consistently," one reader said. "His in-game coaching leaves a lot to be desired - clock management?!"
It ain't because of talent. I had bought into the fact that these coaches knew what they were doing. We are more talented than anyone in the West.
I'm not throwing in the towel but this game was on the coaching staff plain and simple. And throwing TA under the bus after it. Riley is gonna lose the locker room he worked to gain by throwing players under the bus. You walk up there and say "we called the wrong play, we're gonna work to make sure it doesn't happen again. It's on us" and thats it.
Because the best national recruiting ranking over the last five years of anyone in in the West is 45th in the nation. We should have recruited better but we are far better than 45th in the nation.
You are dreaming .... your days of being more talented than everyone else are OVER and have been OVER for quite some time .... love watching the continued delusions.
So you knew this staff couldn't manage a game, and you still called for a winning streak. Makes sense.
I didn't think it would be this close. I figured we wouldn't have to be talking about the clock against Illinois.
I don't understand how people can put 100% of the blame on the coaches. Yes, the game plan was not good today. Yes, we lost to Illinois. But you honestly expect the coaches to make the players into perfect robots? No player is perfect. On top of that, even if coaches could make players into perfect robots, our recruits are not the top robots. We have a few above average robots and every other robot is average. Today's loss was partially on the coaches for poor game management. But the other part of is still on the players. You are ignorant if you think this is all on the coaches. No matter which way you argue it, this is still about talent, and our lack of talent.
I live in the Northwest and I wrote about my reservations about Riley all last summer and NO One wanted to hear it. He's a screwball. Very nice man, but not a very good coach. All you guys were all excited because he beat Mark Sanchez and USC on a Thursday night a long time ago. Others mentioned how he turned down Alabama and USC coaching jobs. Those were not the jobs they are today. I wrote about the success of coaches hired at the age of 61 and older. People screamed too small of a sample size when I included every old coach. This is not going to end up very well for us Husker fans. As I wrote to Mike last summer. He will be more than happy to collect his millions from Nebraska and then move back to his beach house on the Oregon coast. Eichorst threw Mike a life preserver and he lunged for it.
Stop...it was Nebraska vs. Illinois. There is not any measure out there that would show the Illini to have the talent we have.
Did you take into consideration how many players we've lost from those last 5 recruiting classes and how many recruits/players have been lost (or not lost) from the other teams out of the west?
So did you mean a 2-game winning streak with us beating Southern Miss and Illinois? Or did you think we would beat Wisconsin going away, too?
Before the Illinois game, I thought there was a slight (very slight) chance we could lose. Could our talent overcome our coaching incompetency? With 55 seconds left, I knew the game was over. It was just a matter (a painful matter) of watching it play out.
It was a poorly coached game from both sides. Illinois' coach didn't even know it was 4th down at one point and gave us the ball at mid-field. And we still lost! To a dumpster-fire of a program that fired it's coach a week before the season started.
Regardless of how poorly coached they may be, I don't see how you can keep contending that this is a talented team. They cannot seem to convert a 3rd down to save their lives, no matter the play call or formation, and no matter how mediocre the opponent is.
I don't disagree that there has been some bizarre late-game management, and it has been costly. But NU had all kinds of opportunities to put BYU, Southern Miss and Illinois away and could not do it. Perhaps Nebraska is more talented than those teams, but apparently not enough so to convert a damn third-and-short once in a while.
Tell me, Tom, which player/positions did we have far better talent in this game. I'll give you one...D-line. That's all I can come up with. Ordinarily I would have also said WR, but both sides were bad. What say you?
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Talent isn't even close. Consider this:
Recruiting Rankings:
2012 Nebraska 25 Illini: 65
2013 Nebraska 17 Illini: 47
2014 Nebraska 32 Illini: 75
2015 Nebraska 31 Illini: 45
Illinois was also victimized by a colossal officials screw-up to begin the 2nd half - giving Nebraska the ball at the 44 yard-line. So maybe there is some poetic justice in that Nebraska returned the colossal screw-up.
Gator had it right...
Recruiting Rankings:
2012 Nebraska 25 Illini: 65
2013 Nebraska 17 Illini: 47
2014 Nebraska 32 Illini: 75
2015 Nebraska 31 Illini: 45
Did you take into consideration how many players we've lost from those last 4 recruiting classes? 2011 was especially bad.
@Tulsa Tom You seem to have a hard time understanding what I'm asking, or you are refusing to answer my question on purpose.
Based upon your experience, knowledge, and insight, when watching the game last Saturday, which position groups did we hold a "not even close" talent advantage over them? In that game, on the field, who specifically on the Huskers looked like they had "far better" and "not even close" more talent than their same position group on the other sideline. Hell, I even gave you one already, the D-line. I'm just asking you to give me more. It shouldn't be that hard, if the disparity is that great.
Those #s are a joke. Take into consideration a couple of the highest recruits never showed up on campus and many of the four stars are gone. Take the guys that actually play on this roster and go recalculate the class and post. It won't be pretty.
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