We need this staff to do well

[Clevinger]

Firing a staff after a season probably will make things worse. So long as Riley and company are recruiting and working hard I would give them four seasons.

On a positive note, if we had a secondary and players who could catch we would have a winning record. I don't have a ton of confidence in Riley, but Pelini sucking as a recruiter is a huge factor in our current issues.

Riley wouldn't have been someone I chose, but he was chosen and he deserves a chance.

If he fails he can ride his bike into retirement after 4 years.

 

[redwine65]

I would say keep riley 3 years minimum, by the end of the 3rd year, if we don't have 9 wins…go looking.
disclaimer: unless urban myer or saban want to come here next year.

 

[jflores]

I would say keep riley 3 years minimum, by the end of the 3rd year, if we don't have 9 wins…go looking.
disclaimer: unless urban myer or saban want to come here next year.

Zatechka said that NU isn't shopping in the Saban or Meyer tier, not because we choose not to, because the list of candidates is basically those two. Exceptionally rare. We're in the next tier down with "the Pelini's and Gary Anderson's of the world". You know, the tier where every guy is a possible bust.

 

[scarletred]

Firing a staff after a season probably will make things worse. So long as Riley and company are recruiting and working hard I would give them four seasons.

On a positive note, if we had a secondary and players who could catch we would have a winning record. I don't have a ton of confidence in Riley, but Pelini sucking as a recruiter is a huge factor in our current issues.

Riley wouldn't have been someone I chose, but he was chosen and he deserves a chance.

If he fails he can ride his bike into retirement after 4 years.

+1 ....completely stupid to fire a coach after one year...we have a spoiled fan base.
I don't like Eichorst hire but he deserves some time and players need to make plays.

 

[Clevinger]

+1 ....completely stupid to fire a coach after one year...we have a spoiled fan base.
I don't like Eichorst hire but he deserves some time and players need to make plays.

I'd give him a chance and in the very least he could up our talent. Future coaches coming here need to know they'll get a fair chance.

 

[NUSouth]

I would say keep riley 3 years minimum, by the end of the 3rd year, if we don't have 9 wins…go looking.
disclaimer: unless urban myer or saban want to come here next year.

The guy is eligible for early social security now and in 3 years will be eligible for full social security. It's not like we are talking about giving some up and comer a few years. Every day we give riley is another day of damage to the program. He and his entire osu staff should be fired immediately.

 

[Harry Caray]

Firing a coach after one season would be stupid, but I don't see any way he'd survive consecutive losing seasons. If he does, then we've become Iowa State. At a place with resources like Nebraska, it should be pretty clear after 2 years whether the program is heading in the right direction.

 

[newAD]

I want to see what POB can do here. If Riley goes most likely he does too.

 

[redwine65]

The guy is eligible for early social security now and in 3 years will be eligible for full social security. It's not like we are talking about giving some up and comer a few years. Every day we give riley is another day of damage to the program. He and his entire osu staff should be fired immediately.

well, I think riley has a decent plan on offense if we get the horses to run it. I figure 3 years to get his pro style qb, good hand recivers, pass blocking linemen.by then we should see improvement.
if not try a real running game like clemson.

in 3 years if riley is getting 9 wins, Im ok.I wasen't ok with 9 wins and blow outs with the head case we had last year.

 

[Blackshirt30]

Eichorst needs to go before we change coaches again.

 

[scarletred]

Eichorst needs to go before we change coaches again.

He won't get a second chance to screw up if this ends up going south in 3 years.

 

[Husker69]

Some of the posters think Eichorst is to blame for hiring Mike Riley. I think it was a very solid hire. I like his staff, overall, quite a bit. Out west teams like Oregon State and Washington State can only go so far in the standings. Winning conference championships in football is a fantasy. Lack of population, competition, resources, location, financial backing, crowd support at games are real reasons for failure.

At Nebraska, we lack only population within state and the surrounding region. But it is a big obstacle to overcome. Don't kid yourself. I'm sure Eichorst, last year, did a thorough head coach search thru his agent. Probably contacted the agents of many very successful head coaches to see if his boss would be interested in NU. Probably offered a salary in the 4 to 5 million salary range, great incentives, very competive overall money for his assistants and staff. No takers from the obvious elite group. Practically all those guys reside in much more populated areas. It is not a coincidence, random thing for their success. Nebraska is not a destination job for the elite and top head coaches.

Mike Riley is 62. That is a negative. But his wealth of experience, in depth knowledge, respect, caring personality are major pluses. Nebraska is rebuilding. We have some talent and depth. I overrated our talent level going into the season. If we had no injuries at all, we might only have one loss. But injuries are a big part of modern day football. It is part of the game, much more so than 30 years ago. Kids are so much bigger now. Strength programs are more similar now. Parity. No one is cutting edge like we were in the 1980 thru 1990 decades.

I wish Nebraska fans were more patient. The constant negative feelings in the social media is not helping matters. Yeah, I know it sucks to not be nationally relevant again. To not be in the top 10,again, stinks. NU had so many years in a row where they finished in the top 10 in football. But that is not our current reality. The talk of replacing Mike Riley is insane. I think it is a small but vocal minority. The Riley regime needs four years to get a fair appraisal. We need more front line talent and depth. There are holes in our roster. This is not a overnight fix.

Our situation is stressing our mettle. Give it time. Fans need to stay positive, or at least stay neutral for a good 3 years or so. We don't grow Osbornes' within state very often. Once in a lifetime, probably. Scott Frost is a work in progress. Promising, but not a sure thing as a potential head coach. His resume and experiences need to continue to grow. I think Mike Riley and staff will get us back to the top 10. That is a lofty goal. Getting there and staying there is the goal. GBR

 

[Marine8365]

Agreed.....Staying patient and praying!

 

[iROOT4nu]

I hope MR and company pack their lunchbox and sell that PT to these high profile targets. That can turn things around in a heartbeat.

 

[OmahaSker]

I want to see what POB can do here. If Riley goes most likely he does too.

Something we haven't had in a very long time, an elite QB and coaches to develop him

 

[SEMO_yogi]

Some of the posters think Eichorst is to blame for hiring Mike Riley. I think it was a very solid hire. I like his staff, overall, quite a bit. Out west teams like Oregon State and Washington State can only go so far in the standings. Winning conference championships in football is a fantasy. Lack of population, competition, resources, location, financial backing, crowd support at games are real reasons for failure.

At Nebraska, we lack only population within state and the surrounding region. But it is a big obstacle to overcome. Don't kid yourself. I'm sure Eichorst, last year, did a thorough head coach search thru his agent. Probably contacted the agents of many very successful head coaches to see if his boss would be interested in NU. Probably offered a salary in the 4 to 5 million salary range, great incentives, very competive overall money for his assistants and staff. No takers from the obvious elite group. Practically all those guys reside in much more populated areas. It is not a coincidence, random thing for their success. Nebraska is not a destination job for the elite and top head coaches.

Mike Riley is 62. That is a negative. But his wealth of experience, in depth knowledge, respect, caring personality are major pluses. Nebraska is rebuilding. We have some talent and depth. I overrated our talent level going into the season. If we had no injuries at all, we might only have one loss. But injuries are a big part of modern day football. It is part of the game, much more so than 30 years ago. Kids are so much bigger now. Strength programs are more similar now. Parity. No one is cutting edge like we were in the 1980 thru 1990 decades.

I wish Nebraska fans were more patient. The constant negative feelings in the social media is not helping matters. Yeah, I know it sucks to not be nationally relevant again. To not be in the top 10,again, stinks. NU had so many years in a row where they finished in the top 10 in football. But that is not our current reality. The talk of replacing Mike Riley is insane. I think it is a small but vocal minority. The Riley regime needs four years to get a fair appraisal. We need more front line talent and depth. There are holes in our roster. This is not a overnight fix.

Our situation is stressing our mettle. Give it time. Fans need to stay positive, or at least stay neutral for a good 3 years or so. We don't grow Osbornes' within state very often. Once in a lifetime, probably. Scott Frost is a work in progress. Promising, but not a sure thing as a potential head coach. His resume and experiences need to continue to grow. I think Mike Riley and staff will get us back to the top 10. That is a lofty goal. Getting there and staying there is the goal. GBR

You lost me after your first two or three sentences. What MR does or doesn't do in the future is pure speculation, period. Same goes for what SE did in his coaching search. I would hope that SE dotted the i's and crossed t's, but that doesn't necessarily jibe with other reports regarding his hiring process.

To evaluate MR's chances of success here, all you can do is look at his PAST performance...and that, my friend, is not a comforting thing to do. If he is to be given the luxury 3 or 4 years, which personally I doubt that he will, he will have to earn it by showing GREAT improvement over the product he is fielding this season.

 

[huskerssalts]

Hearing some of this reminded me when we fired Callahan, difference was he had plenty of time but my reasoning wanting Callahan for one more year was we had a 5 star QB committed and 4 or 5 other rivals top 100 recruites commtted to us at the time he got canned. I really wanted to get those guys here and see how they done. I believe Blaine Gabbert with the talent we had then, would of killed it here. But it didn't happen, we canned Bill and lost almost every top guy we had.

 

[huskerssalts]

I know i wont win any favorites with this post but i really wished we kept Callahan for 1 more year, he seriously had a top 3 recruiting class going when he was fired. I wish kept him and forced Coz out instead. Things MAY have turned around a bit differently. What did Callahan do differently then all our other coaches to get the big time recruits anyways? Sell the Super Bowl coach deal to the kids? Something worked and wish other guys we have would take note of at least that part from him.

 

[suhnami]

I want to see what POB can do here. If Riley goes most likely he does too.

Good coaches win with what they have. And it is foolish to hang your hopes on a high school senior who isnt even on campus.

 

[suhnami]

Hearing some of this reminded me when we fired Callahan, difference was he had plenty of time but my reasoning wanting Callahan for one more year was we had a 5 star QB committed and 4 or 5 other rivals top 100 recruites commtted to us at the time he got canned. I really wanted to get those guys here and see how they done. I believe Blaine Gabbert with the talent we had then, would of killed it here. But it didn't happen, we canned Bill and lost almost every top guy we had.

They had coach blake who was one of the top recruiters in the country.

 

[scarletred]

Hearing some of this reminded me when we fired Callahan, difference was he had plenty of time but my reasoning wanting Callahan for one more year was we had a 5 star QB committed and 4 or 5 other rivals top 100 recruites commtted to us at the time he got canned. I really wanted to get those guys here and see how they done. I believe Blaine Gabbert with the talent we had then, would of killed it here. But it didn't happen, we canned Bill and lost almost every top guy we had.

Gabbert still never beat Nebraska and Bo Peelini.

 

[gobigredlands]

Firing a staff after a season probably will make things worse.

Wow, no kidding?

So long as Riley and company are recruiting and working hard I would give them four seasons.

Have Nebraska fans really become so delusional that they believe this?

 

[gobigredlands]

I know i wont win any favorites with this post but i really wished we kept Callahan for 1 more year, he seriously had a top 3 recruiting class going when he was fired. I wish kept him and forced Coz out instead.

Ultimately the reason Callahan was fired was BECAUSE he wouldn't get rid of Coz. Why do we keep getting head coaches with so much loyalty they're willing to losing their jobs over it?

I would be cool with Riley if he would get rid of Banker, but as we now know, he's not going to do that. Supposedly we had all the money in the world to offer, and Riley brought friggin Banker with him to Lincoln.

Kill me now.

 

[wcbeav]

Every day we give riley is another day of damage to the program. He and his entire osu staff should be fired immediately.

Having survived being a Beaver alum watching Riley just bring nothing but apathy from himself and his crew of cronies (Banker, Langsdorf, Read) the last five seasons this Riley era survivor thinks NUSouth has it right. Beavernation is just shy of unanimous that we are so better off without him. Once the spread hit college football Banker's days as a decent D-coordinator were done, now you guys get to watch safeties chasing wide open backs and tight ends across the field and mobile QBS run for first downs on 3rd and 8 over and over. Langsdorf didn't even call the plays at OSU and Read never brought a meaningful recruit to Corvallis. No Beaver fan was surprised when BYU's hail mary worked, we saw it last year against us (USC), guys standing back in the end zone not breaking on the ball. Terrible clock management, poor red zone decisions, and stubborn resistance to change were his hallmarks.

My question, having not listened to his NU postgame pressers is, are they any better than his "oh shucks" babble after loses? Does he actually "own" any of it? I ask because he never did here even after a number of incredible coaching meltdowns.

I know it's not nice to pile on, but we Beaver fans thank NU everyday for relieving us of Riley, his buddy-buddy staff and the nearly 20 Million he had as a buyout for his (basically) lifetime contract.

Seriously, I have no idea what OSU games your AD watched in the past four years before making this hire. Last season we played one solid game out of twelve. One.

I wish Huskernation well, but you ain't getting there from here under Riley. Cut your losses or ask him to gut his staff. The AD at OSU allegedly had that conversation with Riley and he was gone within 72 hours.

ps .... our AD who gave Riley his lifetime deal was gone about two months later.

 

[gobigredlands]

Seriously, I have no idea what OSU games your AD watched in the past four years before making this hire. Last season we played one solid game out of twelve. One.

 

[scarletred]

Having survived being a Beaver alum watching Riley just bring nothing but apathy from himself and his crew of cronies (Banker, Langsdorf, Read) the last five seasons this Riley era survivor thinks NUSouth has it right. Beavernation is just shy of unanimous that we are so better off without him. Once the spread hit college football Banker's days as a decent D-coordinator were done, now you guys get to watch safeties chasing wide open backs and tight ends across the field and mobile QBS run for first downs on 3rd and 8 over and over. Langsdorf didn't even call the plays at OSU and Read never brought a meaningful recruit to Corvallis. No Beaver fan was surprised when BYU's hail mary worked, we saw it last year against us (USC), guys standing back in the end zone not breaking on the ball. Terrible clock management, poor red zone decisions, and stubborn resistance to change were his hallmarks.

My question, having not listened to his NU postgame pressers is, are they any better than his "oh shucks" babble after loses? Does he actually "own" any of it? I ask because he never did here even after a number of incredible coaching meltdowns.

I know it's not nice to pile on, but we Beaver fans thank NU everyday for relieving us of Riley, his buddy-buddy staff and the nearly 20 Million he had as a buyout for his (basically) lifetime contract.

Seriously, I have no idea what OSU games your AD watched in the past four years before making this hire. Last season we played one solid game out of twelve. One.

I wish Huskernation well, but you ain't getting there from here under Riley. Cut your losses or ask him to gut his staff. The AD at OSU allegedly had that conversation with Riley and he was gone within 72 hours.

ps .... our AD who gave Riley his lifetime deal was gone about two months later.

Plenty of us question what our AD was thinking or was told why to hire him.This is question I have asked myself and others every time we have lost this season.

 

[Husker69]

What any head coach hired at Nebraska is pure speculation in terms of present or future success. What MR has is experience as a head coach in a power 5 conference, vast football knowledge, respect from his peers and a calming and confident demeanor. His resume of winning championships is none. My main point was its not the only predictor for future success. The Oregon States and Washington States of the college football world have very little chance of winning championships. Too many negatives to overcome. Mike Riley needs 3 years of support. Like it or not NU is a fragile program. Our lack of population in our state and region is a very real obstacle to overcome. It's why, I think, current top head coaches don't think of Nebraska as a top 15 job. I think last year I counted 43 of of tOSU 85 schorships were to Ohio kids only. That my friend is home field advantage.

 

[scarletred]

Husker69, You don't know for a fact that Eichorst had his agent check out firms and feelers out who would want to coach here... I believe he messed up.

I think SE was told we need to change our present image he made a call or two one which was BA at Wisconsin and he told Perlman this guy would be a perfect fit right now here in Lincoln..... They meet after Riley had a meeting with his AD at OSU and realized he needed to make a change on his staff or he wouldn't be around long in Corvallis..... It was the perfect time for Riley to keep his staff and move to place that had the tradition like Nebraska.

 

[Husker69]

Husker69, You don't know for a fact that Eichorst had his agent check out firms and feelers out who would want to coach here... I believe he messed up.

I think SE was told we need to change our present image he made a call or two one which was BA at Wisconsin and he told Perlman this guy would be a perfect fit right now here in Lincoln..... They meet after Riley had a meeting with his AD at OSU and realized he needed to make a change on his staff or he wouldn't be around long in Corvallis..... It was the perfect time for Riley to keep his staff and move to place that had the tradition like Nebraska.

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[Captain Nick]

Any of you guys own your own business and looking to hire?

I'd love to have a 3-4 year commitment while not doing my job.

 

[Husker69]

Yes, I don't know for a fact that Eichorst did those things. A professional, top notch AD would. I hope Eichorst did his homework in the fall of 2014. Pelini was on the clock. He had 3 plus months to do a search and fully evaluate the Pelini regime. A very competent AD would do those things, I think. The reason Eichorst wasn't seen in public last fall was because he was busy.

Scarletred, I would think Eichorst would be more thorough than that scenario. Nebraska has fired 3 head coaches in something like13 years. Every time we fire a head coach and hire a new one, our chances for success our lessened.lmho. NU needed to hit a solo or two run homer with the Riley hire. I think we did. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Be patient and try to stay positive for at least another 2 years.

 

[Captain Nick]

My question, having not listened to his NU postgame pressers is, are they any better than his "oh shucks" babble after loses? Does he actually "own" any of it? I ask because he never did here even after a number of incredible coaching meltdowns. .

No. He pretty much still does that. I've noticed he likes to filibuster alot so he won't get asked as many questions. Some fans did feel he threw our QB under the bus after the horrible play calling against Illinois.

Any chance the Beavers are going to be looking for a new AD anytime soon? That would fix this whole mess.

 

[Wasker77]

+1 ....completely stupid to fire a coach after one year...we have a spoiled fan base.
I don't like Eichorst hire but he deserves some time and players need to make plays.

Did you read the Sipple column? He wrote that Riley has been 3-15 in his last 18 conference games. That is a fact, not a guess, not an emotional outburst, not a hunch, not a gut feeling, not what ifs, not I hope. Just the hard cold truth. Still want to give him 3 or 4 years. Jeez maybe by that time we can apply to the MAC or American Athletic Conference

 

[Marine8365]

We just need our beloved Huskers to be good again regardless who the coach is.....

 

[scarletred]

Believe me I'm behind him even though I see fault's in this staff and continue to support this program which I have since Devaney arrived... But I can't say the same for our AD.

 

[scarletred]

Did you read the Sipple column? He wrote that Riley has been 3-15 in his last 18 conference games. That is a fact, not a guess, not an emotional outburst, not a hunch, not a gut feeling, not what ifs, not I hope. Just the hard cold truth. Still want to give him 3 or 4 years. Jeez maybe by that time we can apply to the MAC or American Athletic Conference

I made the comment last night .... AND you read the article when just NOW?

 

[Husker69]

Any power 5 head coach has a guaranteed contract and buyout clause worth millions. On the professional level, it's even more lucrative. Us mere mortals have no such thing. A great gig if you have it. Even when you lose, you win. The players on the professional level are not just getting by.

 

[newAD]

Good coaches win with what they have. And it is foolish to hang your hopes on a high school senior who isnt even on campus.

And good and even great coaches also lose because of what they don't have. Using your logic, Nick Saban is a failure because he didn't win a national championship at MSU.

And it is foolish to hang your hopes on a high school senior who isnt even on campus.

If you work at it real hard with your hatred maybe you'll convince him not to come here. I bet that'd make you happy wouldn't it? We'd really be in a world of hurt then wouldn't we?

What is really foolish is bitching about something you have no control over.

Still waiting for you to get your seat on Gameday you genius you.

 

[Husker69]

Every staff has faults or at least cracks appearing. You're not going to have nine assistants who are great coaches and recruiters. Even during Osbornes' last 3 years or so, NU had a few assistants who were not diligent recruiters. When you get to your mid fifties or so the desire for recruiting goes down. Back then NU relied heavily on some(maybe few) younger assistants to carry recruiting. Osborne was a tireless workhorse on the recruiting trail too.

 

[Wasker77]

I made the comment last night .... AND you read the article when just NOW?

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