We are dead last in all of FBS Football, after 2 un-ranked opponents

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

with 1 sack for 5 yards.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/466/p3

If Diaco's 3-4 D is more like a prevent D we are in for very bumby year.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I thought you already jumped. C'mon man, do it already

 

[timnsun]

with 1 sack for 5 yards.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/466/p3

If Diaco's 3-4 D is more like a prevent D we are in for very bumby year.

Not sure what you are trying to say here... we are tied at 117 (not good, just so you know) with Tennessee, West Virginia, Northwestern, Purdue, and have dozen more with a half a sack a game. So there are quite a few teams that, after two games, only have 1 sack. I'm sure the quick passing game from Arkansas state didn't help our stats, and to a lesser extent same with Oregon... we haven't really pressured the QBs yet; maybe this week we get a few more? Who knows?

 

[jay-cheese]

DO IT, DO IT, DO IT (wait, what are we talking about here?)

GBR

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Please read this.

https://www.onefootdown.com/2012/8/25/3267286/bob-diacos-3-4-no-crease-defense

Then realize that number of sacks allowed has no correlation to the ranking of a team. Then consider the opponents are using a quick passing game to prevent sacks, and so on and so on.

If Diaco calls blitzes, 5 or more rushing the passer, that leaves your DBs vulnerable to the big play in the secondary.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

I thought you already jumped. C'mon man, do it already

To avoid jumping, give me your glasses.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Well...they haven't really played any passing teams yet.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

To avoid jumping, give me your glasses.

Nah, it's a lot more fun to watch you panic and get all worked up over how many sacks Nebraska has in two games, when the opponents have basically taken the sack and the blitz away from the defense with play calling.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Nah, it's a lot more fun to watch you panic and get all worked up over how many sacks Nebraska has in two games, when the opponents have basically taken the sack and the blitz away from the defense with play calling.

Sort of...but there is a huge difference from bringing 3 instead of 4. And if the QB is a statue (which I guess they have not really faced yet) you can bring plus 1 pressure often.

I don't think people are panicked...they are just pointing it out.

 

[swissticuffs]

I care more about scoring D....not so hot in that dept. How about we wait and see what happens in conference play?

I'm expecting they go 6-3. Anything less, would be uncivilized.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I care more about scoring D....not so hot in that dept. How about we wait and see what happens in conference play?

I'm expecting they go 6-3. Anything less, would be uncivilized.

Yeah, scoring D is pretty much all that matters in the end. Right now they are letting up what, like 40 a game? Yikes

The yeah that Bobby D was killing it at ND...did they play any spread teams, up-tempo teams? Or was it Purdue, Navy, Stanford, MSU and more of those teams?

 

[newAD]

Please read this.

https://www.onefootdown.com/2012/8/25/3267286/bob-diacos-3-4-no-crease-defense

Then realize that number of sacks allowed has no correlation to the ranking of a team. Then consider the opponents are using a quick passing game to prevent sacks, and so on and so on.

If Diaco calls blitzes, 5 or more rushing the passer, that leaves your DBs vulnerable to the big play in the secondary.

Quick passes to make it extremely difficult for the defense to get sacks????

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Sort of...but there is a huge difference from bringing 3 instead of 4. And if the QB is a statue (which I guess they have not really faced yet) you can bring plus 1 pressure often.

I don't think people are panicked...they are just pointing it out.

What is the pct of plays where they brought 3 and not 4?

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

What is the pct of plays where they brought 3 and not 4?

Or better yet, let's see how many quick passes were done. All 3 of Oregon's passing TDs were not quick passes but down field throws at least 20 yards (2nd one back of end zone).

 

[newAD]

Or better yet, let's see how many quick passes were done. All 3 of Oregon's passing TDs were not quick passes but down field throws at least 20 yards (2nd one back of end zone).

Maybe just maybe Justin Herbert is the real deal? Time will tell.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Or better yet, let's see how many quick passes were done. All 3 of Oregon's passing TDs were not quick passes but down field throws at least 20 yards (2nd one back of end zone).

So you want to blitz a mobile qb and go man on man in the back end. Good luck. Tell you what, chart the game and tell me how many times the Oregon or Ark St QB had the ball in their hands more than 2.5 and 3.0 seconds? It wasn't often. There is a negative to sending pressure as well. Had you read the article I linked, you would realize that, even before he arrived in Lincoln, Diaco is a keep the man in front of you defensive theorist. You can't do that when you are chasing.

You were expecting something different than what he is doing. That is on you.

With a less mobile QB and a downhill running team, think Iowa, Wisconsin and to an extent Northwestern and Minnesota, if they go away from what they do best to attempt to exploit your weakness, that's cool with me. If you tell me Hornibrook and Stanley are going to throw the ball 35 times to their WR, I would take my chances that they won't be nearly as effective offensively that if they simply ran their offenses.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Nah, it's a lot more fun to watch you panic and get all worked up over how many sacks Nebraska has in two games, when the opponents have basically taken the sack and the blitz away from the defense with play calling.

So I guess we can look forward to a bunch of bubble screens this year then - as his last year with Uconn they finished 110th in sacks

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

So I guess we can look forward to a bunch of bubble screens this year then - as his last year with Uconn they finished 110th in sacks

And Cincinnati

2009 - 8th - 37 sacks 2.85 per

And Notre Dame
2010 - 56th- 26 sacks 2.0 per
2011 - 56th- 25 sacks 1.92 per
2012 -25th - 33 sacks 2.54 per
2013 - 83rd - 21 sacks 1.62 per

Again, research is your friend. If you thought this was going to be a high QB pressure defense, you didn't read up on it.

The 3-4 can put you in position to disguise coverages, rushers, etc but sending 5 or 6 hasn't really been his MO as a DC.

edit - Additionally, if you look back at who had the sacks for Cincinnati and ND, they were the DL and the Cat backer. In 2011 Teo had 5.5 sacks from the ILB position but that was really the only outlier.

 

[swissticuffs]

Yeah, scoring D is pretty much all that matters in the end. Right now they are letting up what, like 40 a game? Yikes

The yeah that Bobby D was killing it at ND...did they play any spread teams, up-tempo teams? Or was it Purdue, Navy, Stanford, MSU and more of those teams?

They a good deal more talent.....that is the big difference.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

What is the pct of plays where they brought 3 and not 4?

22.5%

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Maybe just maybe Justin Herbert is the real deal? Time will tell.

Wait...can he be? His sort of mobile, right?

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

So you want to blitz a mobile qb and go man on man in the back end. Good luck. Tell you what, chart the game and tell me how many times the Oregon or Ark St QB had the ball in their hands more than 2.5 and 3.0 seconds? It wasn't often. There is a negative to sending pressure as well. Had you read the article I linked, you would realize that, even before he arrived in Lincoln, Diaco is a keep the man in front of you defensive theorist. You can't do that when you are chasing.

You were expecting something different than what he is doing. That is on you.

With a less mobile QB and a downhill running team, think Iowa, Wisconsin and to an extent Northwestern and Minnesota, if they go away from what they do best to attempt to exploit your weakness, that's cool with me. If you tell me Hornibrook and Stanley are going to throw the ball 35 times to their WR, I would take my chances that they won't be nearly as effective offensively that if they simply ran their offenses.

Didn't say I wanted to blitz did I?? Would like to get some heat with some sacks rushing 4. There is a high correlation between sacks and D scoring rankings.

 

[mgbreis]

I was behind an old lady in line at McDonalds this morning, she was having a damn fit because they couldn't figure out how to put a senior coffee on her value meal. Turns out you can't do that.... and that really pissed her off.

It kinda reminded me of this board....

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Didn't say I wanted to blitz did I?? Would like to get some heat with some sacks rushing 4. There is a high correlation between sacks and D scoring rankings.

1st quarter - Nebraska defended 19 plays - 7 runs 12 passes. In 12 passes, 6 defended with 3 rushers, 5 with 4 and 1 with 5. 7 rushes were defended with 4 DL 4 times and 3 - 3 times

1st TD - rushed 4 MLB blitz
2nd TD - rushed 4
3rdTD - run, but #13 was on the line and #24 also on the line
Also a 41 yard pass play that put #7 in coverage deep, was a blitz that sent 5 rushers.
additionally, there was a holding call on center that negated a big play, when Nebraska only rushed 3

I have some things to do, but will try to get back to this later this evening.

 

[dinglefritz]

I was behind an old lady in line at McDonalds this morning, she was having a damn fit because they couldn't figure out how to put a senior coffee on her value meal. Turns out you can't do that.... and that really pissed her off.

It kinda reminded me of this board....

As my favorite Ron White punch line goes, "you can't fix stupid".

 

[onechase]

Unbelievable stat. We will be in for a long year if that stat does not change fast.

 

[timnsun]

Unbelievable stat. We will be in for a long year if that stat does not change fast.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Actually, the other poster said the sacks or lack of won't actually matter.

 

[19Football19]

with 1 sack for 5 yards.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/466/p3

If Diaco's 3-4 D is more like a prevent D we are in for very bumby year.

Not on him. Name 1 4 star that was highly recruited in the front 7. We don't have the athletes. And there aren't any young ones in the waiting. It is what it is.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

So you want to blitz a mobile qb and go man on man in the back end. Good luck.

I believe you know as well as me that you can bring 5-man pressure in a wild number of ways and still play zone behind it, especially from a hash. I know the blitz every down crowd gets old, especially when we all knew that isn't Diaco's MO coming in, but let's not act like it's all or nothing and his hands are tied behind his back just because a team likes to run quick game and/or spreads the field.

 

[timnsun]

Actually, the other poster said the sacks or lack of won't actually matter.

Really? Is that what he said? Pretty sure he was saying Diaco's defense isn't predicated on getting lots of sacks. He likes to keep everything in front of him. How does that translate to sacks don't matter?

 

[supersport24]

They a good deal more talent.....that is the big difference.

His defenses weren't great at Notre Dame outside of the team who played for the National Championship. His defenses at UConn were pretty bad. I know he was the head coach, but I am sure he helped with the game plan. The thing which surprised me is his run defenses were never very good statistically.

 

[redfanusa]

I'd rather we blitz the shit out of teams and up the pressure than sit back and get picked apart all day. Most of you are probably too young to remember the 1993-1997 glory years, but I don't remember those teams playing a lot of prevent D. I do remember a lot of quarterbacks getting knocked down, and start to rush their throws because they were tired of getting hit. Not a problem with the 2017 Huskers.

 

[SnohomishRed]

I'd rather we blitz the shit out of teams and up the pressure than sit back and get picked apart all day. Most of you are probably too young to remember the 1993-1997 glory years, but I don't remember those teams playing a lot of prevent D. I do remember a lot of quarterbacks getting knocked down, and start to rush their throws because they were tired of getting hit. Not a problem with the 2017 Huskers.

I realize Diaco has not Been heavy on the blitz in his career. I was hoping he had changed some. Or Riley would have influence in this respect but unfortunately we are now another Pelini bend don't break defense.

Look I know some poster get upset when there are pessimistic posts, I understand that. For myself I wish I was more positive on things, I used to be. This constant crap we see on the field over the last ten years or so is wearing out the fan base. A good percentage is just waiting for the next shoe to drop. The Diaco hire could turn out ok but I was hoping for a bigger splash and instead we have taken a giant step back ,at least to start, from Banker who was a horrible DC

 

[timnsun]

I realize Diaco has not Been heavy on the blitz in his career. I was hoping he had changed some. Or Riley would have influence in this respect but unfortunately we are now another Pelini bend don't break defense.

Look I know some poster get upset when there are pessimistic posts, I understand that. For myself I wish I was more positive on things, I used to be. This constant crap we see on the field over the last ten years or so is wearing out the fan base. A good percentage is just waiting for the next shoe to drop. The Diaco hire could turn out ok but I was hoping for a bigger splash and instead we have taken a giant step back ,at least to start, from Banker who was a horrible DC

I get it, Sno, as I also wanted more of an attacking defense. What we are seeing is frustrating, for sure, and makes you wonder if we will ever get there.

At the same time, it's awfully tough to proclaim this a failed experiment after just two games. I don't believe Diaco is worse than Banker... that's pretty unfair to level that against him after two games... I know we want instant change, but what happened to giving him at least a season?

I know you aren't saying he should be fired, but you do seem to be saying he never should have been hired...

Let's see what happens as the season plays out.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Really? Is that what he said? Pretty sure he was saying Diaco's defense isn't predicated on getting lots of sacks. He likes to keep everything in front of him. How does that translate to sacks don't matter?

No

 

[timnsun]

No

You make a compelling argument here. I stand corrected.

 

[dinglefritz]

I'd rather we blitz the shit out of teams and up the pressure than sit back and get picked apart all day. Most of you are probably too young to remember the 1993-1997 glory years, but I don't remember those teams playing a lot of prevent D. I do remember a lot of quarterbacks getting knocked down, and start to rush their throws because they were tired of getting hit. Not a problem with the 2017 Huskers.

That team had a bunch of future NFL defenders on it too. I'm not sure we've got more than 1 or 2 on this bunch. We can't keep comparing what national championship talent did to this group of kids. That isn't fair to them or the coaches at this point.

 

[dinglefritz]

Look I know some poster get upset when there are pessimistic posts, I understand that. For myself I wish I was more positive on things, I used to be. This constant crap we see on the field over the last ten years or so is wearing out the fan base. A good percentage is just waiting for the next shoe to drop. The Diaco hire could turn out ok but I was hoping for a bigger splash and instead we have taken a giant step back ,at least to start, from Banker who was a horrible DC

You were positive for a couple of weeks like most while drinking the pre-season Kool Aid. Overall you've been about as negative as it can get about Riley and his staff since day one. We struggle for 2 weeks and already you're ready to jump in the Sound.

 

[SnohomishRed]

I get it, Sno, as I also wanted more of an attacking defense. What we are seeing is frustrating, for sure, and makes you wonder if we will ever get there.

At the same time, it's awfully tough to proclaim this a failed experiment after just two games. I don't believe Diaco is worse than Banker... that's pretty unfair to level that against him after two games... I know we want instant change, but what happened to giving him at least a season?

I know you aren't saying he should be fired, but you do seem to be saying he never should have been hired...

Let's see what happens as the season plays out.

I was not against he hire, I absolutely loved that Riley made the hard decision to get rid of a friend at DC and I loved that he wanted to change the defense. Diaco could still be a great hire but I think Diaco has to change a bit also. Its not enough to say well that his how Diaco calls games so why are you surprised? I guess shelling out a large salary would give a little say on how Nebraska wants things not just give out the keys and walk away. That may still happen who knows.

Of course we need to see how the whole thing goes, that goes for Riley also. I reject this thought that if you are critical of a coach you are all the sudden a bad fan or want the coach fired. In fact I would say if fans just sit on their hands and take what is given to them NU will never make it back, the administration would be safe, why take a chance on something at that point. Riley took a chance on Diaco now he needs to teach Diaco what he as the head football coach wants, if Diaco doesnt like it walk.

The thing that is frustrating are the decision that that have been made in the football program over the last couple of decades. On the whole they have been stupid, while there have been some good decisions the majority imo , and the ones that most affect how we play have been bad. Until that changes we do not change