Good God TA4 $ucked that day, but he was a freshman so it was sort of understandable. Regardless, probably would have won by two touchdowns if not for the OL penalties in the fourth quarter. Nearly cost us the game.
Watched replay of NW-NU 'HailMary game'
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I still remember being in south stadium that day. I was dumbfounded. I had been off the Pelini bandwagon for so long I was actually pissed. I figured if he lost that game that may have put a nail in the coffin.
That guy was so lucky in 2013 it was crazy. Wyoming, Northwestern, PSU, and UGA all easily could have been losses.
That guy was so lucky in 2013 it was crazy. Wyoming, Northwestern, PSU, and UGA all easily could have been losses.
Not to defend him but is it luck? He always won at least 9 games and loss 4.
His teams won alot of close games. Nobody is that damn lucky. He was what he was.
I used to buy the entire Husker season on DVD (no satellite dish = no DVR of games). The Pelini seasons are totally unwatchable. Even when they pulled out a victory, it was usually after getting thumped the previous 50 minutes. Who wants to watch the Huskers get crushed for an hour? So the 2009, 2010, and 2013 disc sets collect dust because there isn't a game fun enough to watch on them.
Should have bought the 1996, 1999, and 2001 seasons instead. Not all were winners, but there were plenty more to enjoy.
Should have bought the 1996, 1999, and 2001 seasons instead. Not all were winners, but there were plenty more to enjoy.
Not watching the 2009 defense is just ridiculous.. Get over it. Watch one of the best defenses of all time.
Yes they compared to defenses in the 90s. The amount of plays they defended with the results they produced was incredible.
99 was a turnover fest on offense and 2001 was Eric Crouch every play ending with the death of our elite run.. gmafb
Had anybody paid attention they would have known what coming against Colorado because Kansas St was gashing us the week before. We won by 10 but they were consistently churning out yards.
That defense, peaked the OU game.
Had anybody paid attention they would have known what coming against Colorado because Kansas St was gashing us the week before. We won by 10 but they were consistently churning out yards.
That defense, peaked the OU game.
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Yes. Penn State was luck and especially NW was pure luck.
Texas was lucky to be given 1 second back, huh?
Then the 1994 and 1997 teams NCs and the 1999 Big12 championship are bogus lucky championships..Bo is living for free in this boards head.
I saw our kids fight to the end...greatest fans.
We can't call it a "Hail Mary" anymore
It's now referred to as a "Tinkerbell Trans-wish"
It's now referred to as a "Tinkerbell Trans-wish"
Jeans, I know your first post said not to defend Pelini, but it sure seems like every other post you posted was pointing out flaws of previous husker teams (even some pretty darn good 11 win teams) to defend Pelini. At least that's how it looks to me.
No, to defend our players,who faught their tails off to win those games.
They made plays to win those games. If we are going to call Pelini's wins luck, then lets hold, the same standard to ALL our wins..I hate hipocrisy.
And will not respect people who live in it.
And sick of posters disparaging the accomplishments of our Players just cause they don't like Pelini.
But will make,every excuse,for the absolute garbage product that was put on the field this past year.
It's OK to give his players credit without loving him..this board needs to grow up.
We actually had a poster post he wouldn't watch our best defense in 30 years ..why, because of Pelini..thats stupid.
My feelings too. I don't watch or not watch games just because of who the coach is. Doing that is saying that some players are more important or less important just because of what coach they played for. It's still my team. I still love watching the 2013 Hail Mary against Northwestern just like I like to watch the 2006 comeback against Texas A&M just like I like to watch the 2001 win over Oklahoma just like I like to watch the upset win over Michigan State last year. All of the games I described were under 4 different coaches and none are any more or less special to me because of who the coach is. Obviously the 1995 Orange Bowl, 1996 Fiesta Bowl and 1998 Orange Bowl games are more special to me but not because they were teams coached by Tom Osborne but because they were games that won us national championships. Coaches and players change. The school and the state they represent doesn't.
Pelini didn't get lucky, he had flawed teams with one or two top tier players every season who had to make a game saving play in a couple games in games they otherwise lose to teams they had no buisness losing to but not having enough of them to overcome his poor management against teams with equal or better talent on a consistant basis.
Westercamp against NW
Suh and Henery against CU
Rex and Taylor against OSU
Lavonte against PSU
Ameer against McNeese
RG4 against MSU
Etc.
Great players making great plays at crucial times is not luck. None of those guys were one play wonders.
The problem is when that is all you can hang your hat on you end up with a record like Pelini had...
40-2 vs sub .500 teams
25-24 vs. everyone else
Westercamp against NW
Suh and Henery against CU
Rex and Taylor against OSU
Lavonte against PSU
Ameer against McNeese
RG4 against MSU
Etc.
Great players making great plays at crucial times is not luck. None of those guys were one play wonders.
The problem is when that is all you can hang your hat on you end up with a record like Pelini had...
40-2 vs sub .500 teams
25-24 vs. everyone else
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I believe you're being overly sensitive on this. I see what mean by "you're bashing Pelini therefore you're bashing the players" but that simply isn't the case that I've read here and you're reading too much into it.
Most games are now available to watch on youtube. Many from the 70's.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRYdXcTSZPtafRjmrzhfZ2g
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn2jY5evHwDFWLHfJaN-OUw
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGOfls2DNBTI_hW8VOGdAbTooWG8qYpct
Its not over sensitive. It's disgustingly old and tired.
The fans are the ones who got sensitive over Bo's comments and wont let it go.
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Sorry guys. I don't believe in luck. You set yourself up for the win or the loss. It's that simple. There isn't a luck fairy out there. The ending of a game is set up because of circumstances that happen during the game. Every play call, every penalty, every muffed snap changes the complexity.
A lot of people like to throw blanket statements on the guy, which I'm not a fan of. The truth is, he did find a way to win 9 games, and I don't think it was just luck either. Now, on the other side of the coin, we were also our own worst enemy. He could have easily had a couple of division championships in his 7 years, but he's also to blame for not reaching that level of success too.
It's as if he had a thermostat.. if things weren't going good enough, he lit the fire on the furnace and the team produced the results. Likewise, if things got a bit too hot, he found a way to turn on the A/C and cool things down.
I'm not a fan of the people that bash him constantly, he did good things. I'm also not going to put him on some high pedestal either, as the guy had some issues, and was given time to correct them. I think he tried, and so did we.
It would be nice if people would just leave it at that and see it for what it is. He did above average, but certainly wasn't a great coach either.
It's as if he had a thermostat.. if things weren't going good enough, he lit the fire on the furnace and the team produced the results. Likewise, if things got a bit too hot, he found a way to turn on the A/C and cool things down.
I'm not a fan of the people that bash him constantly, he did good things. I'm also not going to put him on some high pedestal either, as the guy had some issues, and was given time to correct them. I think he tried, and so did we.
It would be nice if people would just leave it at that and see it for what it is. He did above average, but certainly wasn't a great coach either.
Completely agree with Jeans on this. However some posters just aren't capable of the mental processing required to sort this mentality out. That is 100% the case that I've read here. They see others bashing away and think it's fun to be part of the group (it is social media after all). It was indeed a horrible product on the field this past year. All we can do is support the program/players and hope they can figure out how to win at a high level again.
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Bo made it crystal clear his thought of the fans. Posters bashing Bo here are making it crystal clear that they're bashing Bo only and not the players or the program.
There's a difference between the two as Bo's comments were directed at the fans without question, which gives the fans reason to be upset.
Posters bashing Bo (not the players) without question, but you and @jay-cheese are upset for something that isn't even happening.
It's not crystal clear. In fact, no one even thought about the players being unfairly treated since they played under Bo until Jeans mentioned it. It's a valid consideration, as is the concept that you be fair in your critique's of this what makes this program successful (winning games).
Since your attempting to label (incorrectly), I must say that I'm not upset at all. 15 years, via four different coaches, of average or below average on field results have dramatically lowered my level of caring.
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Since your attempting to label (incorrectly), I must say that I'm not upset at all. 15 years, via four different coaches, of average or below average on field results have dramatically lowered my level of caring.
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Not once did he take any accountability for his bullshit whining and trashing the place he coached at. Instead it was excuses, and the weak-minded bought all of them. "Private conversation" being one of the most idiotic. Anyone that was around him here, that is honest with themselves saw how he constantly bitched and complained. Nobody forced him to stay here, and he went out of his way to try and get fired (his message in his pathetic departing speech to his players admitted as much).
I woukd not care if (just once) he ever took any responsibility. But he always blamed everyone else, just like a child. So excuse the hell out of me for putting up the middle finger to a man who got rich, while badmouthing this place at every chance. A little pride is such a bad thing?
the fact that Bo landed at Youngstown State after being one of the very few head coaches to win 9 games every single year while at a power 5 school tells you all you need to know about him as a coach and person
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And the only reason he even got THAT was because Osborne got that job for him, because he was still bitter.
The reason why it hasn't been brought up is because the players are not being treated unfairly in this thread. You think they are, majority (I assume) think they are not.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
"Tommy sucked that day"
Per a fan in this very thread. Not a word from any you.
How about the coaching staffed sucked all of last year, the truth.
Now lets see how many comments we get.
As you see in the responses, upset about Bo.
Why can't we give Riley credit without disparaging.
I support Riley, and don't have to bash the old coach and players to do it..
Per a fan in this very thread. Not a word from any you.
How about the coaching staffed sucked all of last year, the truth.
Now lets see how many comments we get.
As you see in the responses, upset about Bo.
Why can't we give Riley credit without disparaging.
I support Riley, and don't have to bash the old coach and players to do it..
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You are correlating someone saying "Tommy sucked that day" with the same thing as not supporting the players. That's a big leap. So we shouldn't be allowed to point out when some had a sucky day that may have led to the near loss to northwestern, or any such similar observations?
I don't like bagging on the players... Don't think it's necessary. But if they aren't performing and someone points t out, it doesn't automatically equal a lack of support.
Absolutely the coaching sucked at times last year. But they were professional about recognizing it as well.
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I was at the Penn State game that was referenced in this thread. Bo had Tommy and Kellogg slinging it all over the field. It was one of the coldest, and windiest games I have ever been to. Nobody said a peep then about all the passing. There is a strong narrative to read into anything they did as making them "victims".
Talk about a tired narrative, that would be it. If that game took place in 2016 the same people saying "a win is a win" would be abaolutely crucifying the game plan that day. Never mind the FACT that Barney's line was getting their shit pushed in by a team gutted by scholarship restrictions. But I guess it all evens out when you make excuse after excuse for over 7 years for a coach that did the same thing to Nebraska (voluntary scholarship restrictions).
Talk about a tired narrative, that would be it. If that game took place in 2016 the same people saying "a win is a win" would be abaolutely crucifying the game plan that day. Never mind the FACT that Barney's line was getting their shit pushed in by a team gutted by scholarship restrictions. But I guess it all evens out when you make excuse after excuse for over 7 years for a coach that did the same thing to Nebraska (voluntary scholarship restrictions).
Jeans is sticking up for Bo. Someone has to do it. Jay-cheese, well let's just say that he has an axe to grind. He's been waiting patiently for his side to have the courage to mention his hero and it's on like Donkey Kong!
I think Riley did a Hell of a job last season all things considered.
I'm not anti Riley.....I'm thinking we win 9 to be 10 games this year.
That depends on the first 4. I love his recruiting so far, and the doors he has opened up. We are being talked about among recruits.
I'm sticking up for all of our Players. Past and present. They all have made my Saturdays wonderful for the past 33 years.
Yep. I think Tommy thought he needed to make a play against Illinois and it turned out to bite us and he was half right. Who knows if Illinois hits us long with 22 seconds left but that is always a possibility. I think with a suitable backup hr reigns his risks in and we win those games.
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