Washington State audit
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OMG...inflated numbers. No other school in the country does that.....oh wait.
Number of people that actually care: 0
Number of people that will fake care: Over 16
Number of people that will fake care: Over 16
Wazzu prez to internal auditor, “Do you want to keep your overpaid job at Wazzu, you little geek? Then here’s what your audit will say...”
The problem with that is they will have a major audit from an independent company and it will show up then so no getting around it. You would be amazed what they look for and can find. I learned a long time ago in a small college, just do it right, keep good records and you will be fine. Any time you are dealing with public money, it gets more intense.
Moos will be fine. It sounds like other than giving away free tickets, most of the attendance discrepancies come from what number they’re reporting. The audiors reported scanned tickets. Moos was reporting sold tickets. In terms of money generation, I would think moos’s number would be the more important one. No way this becomes an issue for him at Nebraska.
Got us Frost and likely will only be around a few more years anyway. Worst case I could see the administration implementing additional financial safeguards but honestly even that seems excessive.
Based on the article I read, it looks like they're looking for someone to blame for a $67 million budget deficit so Moos and two others are getting the brunt of the blame.
Based on the article I read, it looks like they're looking for someone to blame for a $67 million budget deficit so Moos and two others are getting the brunt of the blame.
Sometimes people need a scapegoat, and the easiest target is the guy who isn't there any more.
Exactly. This is small potatoes anyway compared to far far worse stuff that has gone on at other schools whose ADs have got through just fine. Minor bump for him that will be largely forgotten soon.
Matt Davison is planning a coup d’etat as we speak
Moos has to feel like he hit the lottery - going from a place with a $67m deficit, to place that is completely self-supporting financially.
It's from the New President at WSU who honestly sucks. He's trying to blame someone for the debt of the football program that we ALL KNEW WAS GOING TO GO INTO DEBT BECAUSE WE HAD NO MONEY TO BEGIN WITH.
Here's the stuff they won't tell you in the "audit"
That debt is over all the years the athletic department was making payments on a 120 million dollar project.
1) It's not like this was all 1 year. Every year there were debt payments to make.
2) Our football revenue under moos went from 40 million (yes that's right our entire football/athletic budget for 2011 was just 40 million dollar) to 60 million. a 20 million dollar increase or a 50% increase in football.
3) He hired Leach and we had 3 winning seasons in a row. We've only had 1 other 3 winning span in 100 years of football.
4) You all will be absolutely fine with Moos. You don't have to "build a new stadium because it is a 39k capacity dump", You don't have to "build a football operations building because you have none).
All you need is a guy who can hire good coaches and keep Big Red being Big Red.
And he hired Frost. Look at the excitement you all have now. And Frost will deliver and Moos will be a hero for you guys. Moos isn't dumb. He's really smart and knows how to build a winning program. I miss him everyday at WSU. I hate our new President Schultz. I am worried he's going to screw the program and ruin what Leach and Moos built for us. We are basically 1 bad hire and cuts away back to
2-10
1-11
2-10
Seriously. That was what our record was before Moos.
Our football renovations cost 120 million dollars. Everybody knew it, and now they are throwing a fit..."this thing we spent money on costs money!" . We all knew it.
The athletic department will be in the black by 2020, but in the mean time we have these idiots who are looking for any and every excuse to blame other people while they figure out a way to destroy the nice car Moos/Leach built for us and sell it off for parts to stuff their own pockets.
This is why WSU can never have anything nice.
Here's the stuff they won't tell you in the "audit"
That debt is over all the years the athletic department was making payments on a 120 million dollar project.
1) It's not like this was all 1 year. Every year there were debt payments to make.
2) Our football revenue under moos went from 40 million (yes that's right our entire football/athletic budget for 2011 was just 40 million dollar) to 60 million. a 20 million dollar increase or a 50% increase in football.
3) He hired Leach and we had 3 winning seasons in a row. We've only had 1 other 3 winning span in 100 years of football.
4) You all will be absolutely fine with Moos. You don't have to "build a new stadium because it is a 39k capacity dump", You don't have to "build a football operations building because you have none).
All you need is a guy who can hire good coaches and keep Big Red being Big Red.
And he hired Frost. Look at the excitement you all have now. And Frost will deliver and Moos will be a hero for you guys. Moos isn't dumb. He's really smart and knows how to build a winning program. I miss him everyday at WSU. I hate our new President Schultz. I am worried he's going to screw the program and ruin what Leach and Moos built for us. We are basically 1 bad hire and cuts away back to
2-10
1-11
2-10
Seriously. That was what our record was before Moos.
Our football renovations cost 120 million dollars. Everybody knew it, and now they are throwing a fit..."this thing we spent money on costs money!" . We all knew it.
The athletic department will be in the black by 2020, but in the mean time we have these idiots who are looking for any and every excuse to blame other people while they figure out a way to destroy the nice car Moos/Leach built for us and sell it off for parts to stuff their own pockets.
This is why WSU can never have anything nice.
You have no idea... I'm sure he's like wow you guys have a stadium filled with fans and everything! this is great. Let's go get a good coach (Frost) and win. Which you will.
I hate the people running WSU now. They are going to ruin our program that Moos built.
lots of copied headlines. tried to find the actual audit but it's not online. I have a hard time believing even one sports reporter has read the audit but they can sure report the hell out of it.
You might be proven right that the external auditors will issue similar findings but I wouldn’t bet a dime on it. If a new university president wanted to wash his hands of problems that occurred before he took over, a good starting point would to direct the university’s internal auditors in a specific way. The external auditors, on the other hand, will decide what to look at and will not be looking to please any university president or corporate CEO post-Enron/Arthur Andersen.
Most of them didn't read it.
You can read the whole thing here:
https://dailyevergreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Audit-of-athletics.pdf
It's all ticktack bs. They let employees buy upgraded seats (that were never sold) at a discount. They gave some tickets away at the Arizona game but we don't know who.
It's really dry stuff and honestly stuff like "well you are reporting X tickets sold, but attendance was ____ and other stuff"
Feel free to read it. It's all nitpicky stuff.
Do the internal auditors report to the President or Board of Regents? Most businesses the internal auditors report to the board.
NU inflates attendance numbers, and has for years. So,
when should we get audited?
Speaking of inflated attendance numbers, does anyone know why there was a big wedge of open seats in the southwest side during the Spring Game?
they were there at the beginning but left in protest when the offense lined up for the first play without a fullback and threw a pass
Hahaha. Then the protesters decided to come back when we consistently ran options to the short side of the field.
Pullman is 5 hours from Seattle, across wet and snowy Cascade Mountains, 1 1/2 hours from Spokane and almost 6 hours to Portland (Lots of Coug alumni across the Columbia River in Vancouver, WA). No big deal for tough Midwest souls, but soft West Coast types like to fly everywhere. (When I meet friends in Vegas from LA and Phoenix they often fly in. It's less than a 5 hour -EASY- drive to either place) Pullman's population is about 33000. Hard to find hotel rooms on football game days. Bad Northwest weather in basketball season and bad Ernie Kent coaching, that one is on Moos, make Pullman a tough place to fill seats.
No way am I defending Wazzu but driving Snoqualmie Pass in the winter can be a nightmare if not impossible. Weren't the Cougs also expecting more $$ from Pac 8-10-12 (how many teams is it now?) tv revenues? Also, giving the pirate (I can't stand that guy) more $$ while Wazzu is cutting programs doesn't look too good. I don't blame folks for being upset.
Pullman, WA
Weather averages
Month High / Low(°F)Rain
September 73° / 44° 4 days
October 60° / 37°6 days
November 44° / 31°11 days
not sure weather is a factor except for 1 or 2 games max
Weather averages
Month High / Low(°F)Rain
September 73° / 44° 4 days
October 60° / 37°6 days
November 44° / 31°11 days
not sure weather is a factor except for 1 or 2 games max
How can you hate on Leach? He's the most interesting football coach in the country...
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