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While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball
 
While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball
Translation "If we don't play exactly like I think we should, I will be back to trash the staff and say I told you so"
 
While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball
Going to a bowl and having a winning record are expectations every year, yes. Does falling short of these expectations mean much in year one, given the current position of the program? We'll see at the end of the year.

Your setup here of a black and white expectation of winning record/bowl game is just a troll attempt to set yourself up to call for MR's head. This is like me saying, "well if we finish with a 7-5 record, MR is the best coach ever and deserves a contract extension."
 
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While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Definitely.
 
Going to a bowl and having a winning record are expectations every year, yes. Does falling short of these expectations mean much in year one, given the current position of the program? We'll see at the end of the year.

Your setup here of a black and white expectation of winning record/bowl game is just a troll attempt to set yourself up to call for MR's head. This is like me saying, "well if we finish with a 7-5 record, MR is the best coach ever and deserves a contract extension."
Look guys I know the popular narrative is to beat down anyone who is not positive on this staff but come on here.

Yes I was not happy with the hire initially but I was hoping and still do hope it works out - See this post before the season. My main concern with the hire was Banker and this opinion was formed form watching him at OSU for years.





I really feel we should win the West this year - I am most excited to see how our defense performs - If it can shut down the run then we win the west imo

WI- Stave will never beat you through the air
Minn - will never beat you through the air
Iowa - will never beat you through the air

If we stop the run we win the west

16 SnohomishRed, Aug 11, 2015

This is big game - I am sorry if you do not want to admit that but having a losing season at NU is a big thing and burns a lot of chips with the fan base -

I am thinking we win and win big - I do believe our rush defense is the real thing and their QB and receivers will be just what the Doctor ordered for our struggling secondary
 
Look guys I know the popular narrative is to beat down anyone who is not positive on this staff but come on here.

Yes I was not happy with the hire initially but I was hoping and still do hope it works out - See this post before the season. My main concern with the hire was Banker and this opinion was formed form watching him at OSU for years.





I really feel we should win the West this year - I am most excited to see how our defense performs - If it can shut down the run then we win the west imo

WI- Stave will never beat you through the air
Minn - will never beat you through the air
Iowa - will never beat you through the air

If we stop the run we win the west

16 SnohomishRed, Aug 11, 2015

This is big game - I am sorry if you do not want to admit that but having a losing season at NU is a big thing and burns a lot of chips with the fan base -

I am thinking we win and win big - I do believe our rush defense is the real thing and their QB and receivers will be just what the Doctor ordered for our struggling secondary

At least you have shown you are a faulty prognosticator like the rest of us. We stop the run pretty well and we're probably not going to win the West. I would think you are going to attempt to add conditions to that now, but you didn't on 11 Aug, so we'll leave it at that.

Really need to have a bowl game for the extra practices, I think the NWU, Purdue, and Rutgers games are the most winnable, but basically every game from here on out is vital.
 
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While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball

60% of our plays last game were run. We did have that oddly timed 4th Quarter 3 pass in a row drive.

We have certainly felt uneasy at times with why things are run or in what proportions, but to me at least, the season has felt a lot like a coach experimenting with folks can do. I think overall, we've seen progression as they keep chucking things out.
 
I believe ( could be wrong) but this is first full year of Langsdorf calling plays so I imagine there is a learning curve. I think we need to run more in this game if only to limit the potential for turnovers. I think we need to rely on our defense stopping their offense.
 
Look guys I know the popular narrative is to beat down anyone who is not positive on this staff but come on here.

Yes I was not happy with the hire initially but I was hoping and still do hope it works out - See this post before the season. My main concern with the hire was Banker and this opinion was formed form watching him at OSU for years.





I really feel we should win the West this year - I am most excited to see how our defense performs - If it can shut down the run then we win the west imo

WI- Stave will never beat you through the air
Minn - will never beat you through the air
Iowa - will never beat you through the air

If we stop the run we win the west

16 SnohomishRed, Aug 11, 2015

This is big game - I am sorry if you do not want to admit that but having a losing season at NU is a big thing and burns a lot of chips with the fan base -

I am thinking we win and win big - I do believe our rush defense is the real thing and their QB and receivers will be just what the Doctor ordered for our struggling secondary
Don't really understand why you even pay attention to him. He provides nothign
 
While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball

It is important because it is a game that we should win....and we need to hold serve at home
 
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I honestly dont think we need to commit to the run or pass, our offense is at its best when we are balanced, teams don't know what's coming next and of course Tommy is the biggest key to this, if he's threwing bad, it hurts the offense we are running in a big way. If hes on the mark, our offense is scary good and can hang 40 on even the best defense in the country.

Sorry it gets old seeing the old timers or people being stuck with us pounding the ball with our backs all day, those days are over with. We have to progress like other teams have, a balanced offense is what the elite teams have. Pass happy or run happy teams will not win it all, well most of the time that is. If we want to be the best again, we have to be balanced. Teams are to good these days and will only load the box to shut our run down.
 
Translation "If we don't play exactly like I think we should, I will be back to trash the staff and say I told you so"
I don't agree with you much, but you are a 100% right here. Setting themselves up to be angry!
 
I honestly dont think we need to commit to the run or pass, our offense is at its best when we are balanced, teams don't know what's coming next and of course Tommy is the biggest key to this, if he's threwing bad, it hurts the offense we are running in a big way. If hes on the mark, our offense is scary good and can hang 40 on even the best defense in the country.

Sorry it gets old seeing the old timers or people being stuck with us pounding the ball with our backs all day, those days are over with. We have to progress like other teams have, a balanced offense is what the elite teams have. Pass happy or run happy teams will not win it all, well most of the time that is. If we want to be the best again, we have to be balanced. Teams are to good these days and will only load the box to shut our run down.

I would like for the run first guys (and I'm a run first guy, but I'm flexible about what's presented to us defensively) to at least somewhat be consistent.

If we're talking about a run first opponent, say a Minny or Wisky, the run first guys when they look at the matchup with NU will say something like "man Minny needs to throw that ball every down cause we can't stop it". Even though throwing the ball is not part of their identity.

When they look at NU's matchup with a defense, its strictly identity or bust for us on offense, or the coaches are idiots. Never mind if the pass is there, we just shouldn't do it.

I'm happy with the 60% we got this last game, its certainly in line with other top rated schools in the playoffs did last year (OU, OSU, UA).
 
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This will be an easy win for Nebraska. Nebraska matches up favorably to NW. Will likely be a bigger blowout than it was last week.
 
I honestly dont think we need to commit to the run or pass, our offense is at its best when we are balanced, teams don't know what's coming next and of course Tommy is the biggest key to this, if he's threwing bad, it hurts the offense we are running in a big way. If hes on the mark, our offense is scary good and can hang 40 on even the best defense in the country.

Sorry it gets old seeing the old timers or people being stuck with us pounding the ball with our backs all day, those days are over with. We have to progress like other teams have, a balanced offense is what the elite teams have. Pass happy or run happy teams will not win it all, well most of the time that is. If we want to be the best again, we have to be balanced. Teams are to good these days and will only load the box to shut our run down.
I agree you need balance but I still think you have to run the ball to win a title. With this team I would like to see a 60/40 run/pass ratio most of the time.
 
This will be an easy win for Nebraska. Nebraska matches up favorably to NW. Will likely be a bigger blowout than it was last week.

I haven't seen NW play and even though I'm optimistic, I'm not nearly this optimistic. This gives me some confidence!
 
I showed the post from August to show that not every post is negative

I am with you on this one. I was not very happy with the Riley hire after years of watching him at Oregon State as well. I made my position clear in my postings last summer, but I also posted in August that I thought Mike would coach the Huskers to 8 or 9 wins. I am not in the crowd that thinks we should be undefeated, but BYU, Illinois and Wisconsin were all winnable games. In the Miami game we were lucky to even get into OT. There is no way we should have 4 losses at this point in the season.

I too had grown tired of Bo's antics, but hating Bo doesn't make Riley a good coach. I understand the optimism people have for Mike and his staff. Most of us want the Huskers to be successful and hope for the best. I certainly have been in a better mood this week as opposed to the weeks following a loss. My question for the people who are so sure Mike is going to be good for the program is will you still show this devotion to him in year 3? 4? Or 5? if the Huskers continue to lose games like we have so far this year
 
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I am with you on this one. I was not very happy with the Riley hire after years of watching him at Oregon State as well. I made my position clear in my postings last summer, but I also posted in August that I thought Mike would coach the Huskers to 8 or 9 wins. I am not in the crowd that thinks we should be undefeated, but BYU, Illinois and Wisconsin were all winnable games. In the Miami game we were lucky to even get into OT. There is no way we should have 4 losses at this point in the season.

I too had grown tired of Bo's antics, but hating Bo doesn't make Riley a good coach. I understand the optimism people have for Mike and his staff. Most of us want the Huskers to be successful and hope for the best. I certainly have been in a better mood this week as opposed to the weeks following a loss. My question for the people who are so sure Mike is going to be good for the program is will you still show this devotion to him in year 3? 4? Or 5? if the Huskers continue to lose games like we have so far this year
I have seen over and over again from optimistic posters that if we are experiencing this same crap 3 or 4 years from now it's time to make some changes. Are you saying you haven't ever seen that? Because if you haven't seen this then you haven't been paying attention.
 
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Yes, this game is important as are all games. If we win against NW, IMO worst case scenario is 6-6 and a bowl game.

That being said, this team took a big step forward last week. And while yes it was against Minnesota, it was a huge confidence booster for this team and this staff. The OL played well, very few penalties, they stuffed the run and played well in the secondary. Call me crazy, but this season is really the story of 2 halves. The first 6 games we went 2-4, with heartbreaking losses the second six games I think we go 5-1 with a loss to MSU. This team is poised to break out, and I think they took that first step toward a break out last week.

We have MRI back this week along with Bando and Freedom. That's a HUGE upgrade on defense. Stopping the run... we've been doing it all year and are one of the best in the conference at doing so. With those 3 guys back across our front 7, we just got even better.

NW can't beat us through the air, and again with MRI and Bando back (I think Davie is back too) our coverage just got an upgrade as well, as did our pass rush.

IMO, if we play the way we did last week against Minnesota, and make the same forward progress across the lines and with penalties, we see another dominating performance by the Huskers.
 
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I am with you on this one. I was not very happy with the Riley hire after years of watching him at Oregon State as well. I made my position clear in my postings last summer, but I also posted in August that I thought Mike would coach the Huskers to 8 or 9 wins. I am not in the crowd that thinks we should be undefeated, but BYU, Illinois and Wisconsin were all winnable games. In the Miami game we were lucky to even get into OT. There is no way we should have 4 losses at this point in the season.

I too had grown tired of Bo's antics, but hating Bo doesn't make Riley a good coach. I understand the optimism people have for Mike and his staff. Most of us want the Huskers to be successful and hope for the best. I certainly have been in a better mood this week as opposed to the weeks following a loss. My question for the people who are so sure Mike is going to be good for the program is will you still show this devotion to him in year 3? 4? Or 5? if the Huskers continue to lose games like we have so far this year

You have to give the guy time. We've lost 4 games by a combined 11 points and about 2 minutes of total playing time. Calling for the guys head after week 5 is asinine. I had my doubts, but am willing to give MR the benefit of the doubt because it takes time to implement a system. And frankly as cancerous as our program has been over the past few years, the most difficult part and the part that takes even more time than implementation of a system is the change in culture in the locker room. If MR goes 5-1 down the stretch and wins a bowl game, then pulls in a top 25 recuriting class would that be satisfactory for a first year head coach???

And the same is true of you, if we get to year 3, 4, 5 and MR is consistently wining 9-11 games will you eat crow???
 
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I would like for the run first guys (and I'm a run first guy, but I'm flexible about what's presented to us defensively) to at least somewhat be consistent.

If we're talking about a run first opponent, say a Minny or Wisky, the run first guys when they look at the matchup with NU will say something like "man Minny needs to throw that ball every down cause we can't stop it". Even though throwing the ball is not part of their identity.

When they look at NU's matchup with a defense, its strictly identity or bust for us on offense, or the coaches are idiots. Never mind if the pass is there, we just shouldn't do it.

I'm happy with the 60% we got this last game, its certainly in line with other top rated schools in the playoffs did last year (OU, OSU, UA).

I suppose I would call myself one of the run first guys. But, I think that's mostly because we're completing 55% of our passes and our rushing ypc is over 5 yds. If we were leading the country in passing stats, I wouldn't care if we were a pass first team.

If we're playing a team that had a top 10 rush defense but was ranked 126th in pass defense, I would say we should throw the ball more. It is situational.

Now onto Northwestern. We lost 4 games early that hurt our margin of error now to have a "respectable" season. They've only scored more than 20 points in 3 of 7 games, Ball state, Eastern Illinois, and Minny. They've been blown out in their last two games (Michigan, Iowa) against run first offenses.

Northwestern should be an easy win for us.
 
You have to give the guy time. We've lost 4 games by a combined 11 points and about 2 minutes of total playing time. Calling for the guys head after week 5 is asinine. I had my doubts, but am willing to give MR the benefit of the doubt because it takes time to implement a system. And frankly as cancerous as our program has been over the past few years, the most difficult part and the part that takes even more time than implementation of a system is the change in culture in the locker room. If MR goes 5-1 down the stretch and wins a bowl game, then pulls in a top 25 recuriting class would that be satisfactory for a first year head coach???

And the same is true of you, if we get to year 3, 4, 5 and MR is consistently wining 9-11 games will you eat crow???
Absolutely I will support Riley if he is consistently winning no problem I would be happy to in fact, he can be a great face to our program. I understand he needs time and agree with it - but he also needs to be adapting and changing and fixing problems. My issue is not Riley but our defense and defensive coaching - My question back at you guys is how long do we go with the current DC, whether we are winning games or not if our defense is ranked 100th in the nation consistently? is 4 years too long I would say most certainly, we will know pretty quick how this defensive staff will perform, in fact we may already know
 
Can you imagine how much better of a record we'd had over the last 7 years if we would've done those things (less penalties, turnover, big plays)? My guess is 1/2 of the losses would've been wins (which makes it even more frustrating imo) When is the last game we did those things, competed well, and still lost??

GBR
 
While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball
Only one way that NW will win this game - ball control. The way they beat Stanford was by moving the chains. No big play offense here - just keep the other team's offense off the field. 3-5 yds per run and little dink passes, chew up clock and shorten the game. We need to be strong on defense and get a lot of 3 & outs and wear them out with our offense. If we get a couple of quick scores, they could fold early after 2 straight blow-outs. The longer we leave them in the game, the more dangerous they become.
 
Absolutely I will support Riley if he is consistently winning no problem I would be happy to in fact, he can be a great face to our program. I understand he needs time and agree with it - but he also needs to be adapting and changing and fixing problems. My issue is not Riley but our defense and defensive coaching - My question back at you guys is how long do we go with the current DC, whether we are winning games or not if our defense is ranked 100th in the nation consistently? is 4 years too long I would say most certainly, we will know pretty quick how this defensive staff will perform, in fact we may already know

Agreed, and Banker is the one hire I wasn't crazy about. I'm willing to give him time as well. He seems to be doing well stopping the run, and it seems to me if we had a lock down corner we'd be doing better in the pass defense area. I expect significant improvement defensively next year. I'm willing to give Banker 3 years, this year and 2 more. After that if we haven't seen significant improvement I would be inclined to support a change.
 
the key to jump on them early. both Michigan and iowa jumped on them early. nw isn't a team built to come from behind and if they get down .
 
While every game is important this is a vital game if we are to go bowling this year. Win and our chances look pretty good - lose and it becomes a long shot imo. A bowl game is important and a winning record is important these are things that are counted on at NU and to miss on both becomes a big deal.

Looking at this game I think there are two keys for us

1. Stop the run - NW is a bad passing team if we can stuff the run they will not be able to beat us passing the ball even though we struggle on pass defense. If however they are effective running the game could go either way.

2. Can we run the ball and commit to the run - NW is very good on defense in general but best on pass defense - if we get into a passing mode then turnovers could determine the outcome. As much as the staff wants to be balanced I think it should be tilted towards the run in this game

I think we can and should win if we take care of the ball and if in fact our defense can stop a running team committed to running the ball

So....You're saying run the ball and stop the run. Thanks for that in-depth analysis. As soon as I can get time, I'll notify Vegas of your thoughts.
 
Ha - maybe you should :) I think my point is this: the run game on both sides is even more important this game than maybe some others - NW is going to try and shorten the game - If you look at their wins vs losses the one glaring stat is the number of rushes - If they have over 50 rushing attempts the game could go either way
 
I am with you on this one. I was not very happy with the Riley hire after years of watching him at Oregon State as well. I made my position clear in my postings last summer, but I also posted in August that I thought Mike would coach the Huskers to 8 or 9 wins. I am not in the crowd that thinks we should be undefeated, but BYU, Illinois and Wisconsin were all winnable games. In the Miami game we were lucky to even get into OT. There is no way we should have 4 losses at this point in the season.

I too had grown tired of Bo's antics, but hating Bo doesn't make Riley a good coach. I understand the optimism people have for Mike and his staff. Most of us want the Huskers to be successful and hope for the best. I certainly have been in a better mood this week as opposed to the weeks following a loss. My question for the people who are so sure Mike is going to be good for the program is will you still show this devotion to him in year 3? 4? Or 5? if the Huskers continue to lose games like we have so far this year
I'm not "sure" HCMR will be good for the program and if recruiting doesn't get better than years past and we continue to lose games we shouldn't, I will be advocating we make yet another change in a few years. That being said, I can either be optimistic HCMR will make us relevant and have it come true, or he might crash and burn. OR - I can be pessimistic that HCMR was the wrong hire and have it come true, or be delighted it doesn't. Either way, what is going to happen is going to happen, so I can either spend the next three years hating on the coach and AD, or spend the next three years looking for the good and being hopeful. It all boils down to how I want to feel for the next three years, and I chose not to be miserable about NU football. If that makes me a sunshine pumper, then I guess I am.
 
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I'm not "sure" HCMR will be good for the program and if recruiting doesn't get better than years past and we continue to lose games we shouldn't, I will be advocating we make yet another change in a few years. That being said, I can either be optimistic HCMR will make us relevant and have it come true, or he might crash and burn. OR - I can be pessimistic that HCMR was the wrong hire and have it come true, or be delighted it doesn't. Either way, what is going to happen is going to happen, so I can either spend the next three years hating on the coach and AD, or spend the next three years looking for the good and being hopeful. It all boils down to how I want to feel for the next three years, and I chose not to be miserable about NU football. If that makes me a sunshine pumper, then I guess I am.
Exactly.
 
OK, I get the drift and I am not being a smart aleck. But isn't every game a very important one? After all it is Nebraska football. This team is like a person that lives on the edge and has to prove themselves each week, beating Minny is history, NW is up next. If they don't continue the improvement then the Minny win means less.
 
The only part with Coach Riley that has me worried at all is that this reminda me of the Callahan run, he gave us a solid offense and probably the best recruiting we ever had but we had NO DEFENSE and for the life of me, wouldn't hire a good defensive co to save his tail. Thats all he needed and im confident he would still be here, well assuming he didn't bail for the first big time NFL offer he got. With his recruiting and offense he had, all he needed was a good defense co and would of killed it. My point is, i pray that Riley can recruit some where near that level and the main part, hire a different defensive Co if Banker doesn't show progress in the next few years.
 
Callahans 2005 class had 2 5 stars and 12 4 stars (2 of which where 6.0 4 stars which is basically a 5 star). Id love to get those results again with coach Riley. Sorry for painful memories but Callahan wasnt all that bad, was simply a defensive Co thats all he needed and he wouldn't betray Coz. This is what worries me with Riley, will he can Banker if he doesn't progress?
 
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