I just saw on the Journal Star website that Vincent has decided to move on from Nebraska. I'm not sure that's a good deal for him. I would think he could use another year of improvement. I hope he has a good future, but I know there are many questions about him.
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Wrong decision, IMO. I don't fault a guy who currently makes $0 for thinking the league minimum sounds good, but if he had a senior year where he actually played to his potential, he'd rise multiple rounds and millions of dollars. He's going to be in a very precarious spot of needing a lot of things to break his way for this to work out for him.
I agree with that. The only reason I see it as a good thing for him is that he is injury prone. Maybe he just needs to get it while it is available.
A tough decision, for sure. He clearly could have improved his standing (and $$$) by sticking through one more year. But the NFL lure is awfully strong.
Is he a mid-late round draft pick?
Is he a mid-late round draft pick?
Good point, Beav. I've been wondering if his injuries this year may have shook him up. Maybe that's one of the reasons he's jumping now while he's healthy. If he goes down again next year it could be over. I may jump too if I were in his position.
Mid-late pick seems about right, with a bad performance at the combine he might not get drafted. Collins is ranked in that 5-10 range for best DT in this draft class, VV is around 20-25 right now.
Not surprised, but man he must really think he's going to get paid. He could have made himself into a 2nd or 3rd rounder if he had a good year this fall with Nebraska. Doubt he gets drafted before the 5th round in 2016. Just not a lot on the tape. I wish him well in his future.
I agree. His first contract isn't going to be what it could be. He is going to have to bet that he will perform well enough during his first contract seasons in order to get paid when he can be a free agent. Depending on who you believe, the average NFL career is 3.3 years, but the NFL claims that it is 6 for players who make a team's opening day roster. It is a big time gamble for him. Being his size there will be teams that will see a lot of potential in him, but I agree that he will have to impress at the combine and/or individual workouts.
Personally I see the loss of VV and MC as a potentially costing us potentially a game or two. We really need KW to come back for his 6th, or our interior line will be very green next year.
Happy for the young man! Go try and fulfill your dreams. He represented himself and Nebraska well. Kid received his degree so worked hard in the classroom and on the field. Take the next step in your life, just like everyone else has. Good luck and hope to see you on the sidelines next year on Sunday's and maybe make it back on a game day on Saturday if you have a bye week
Really good I think. Not sure which one, but I've heard there is one that is an absolute beast, but both will be studs.
http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...tml?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Nice article mentioning the Davis twins performing well at practice last month before the bowl game.
To qualify for the NFL pension plan you have to be on active roster for 3 years, correct?
Maybe he knows he could be missing out on a bigger pay day but with his body breaking down you try and get one extra year in better health and try to get that NFL retirement.
Maybe he knows he could be missing out on a bigger pay day but with his body breaking down you try and get one extra year in better health and try to get that NFL retirement.
There are 2 draft grades, first two rounds and go back to school. Maybe it's 3 draft grades; 1st round, 2nd round, go back to school. I've heard he received go back to school, but I don't know that as fact and hate to even mention it, but oh well, I did ha!
It's interesting that he waited this long, he lost some valuable training time. Good luck to VV.
I believe that's right. They have to actually play in a (low number) certain number of games though, correct?
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I feel like this decision has to be taken as him not liking the current staff and wanting to move on. There just doesn't seem to be any financial incentive to him declaring early. I would love to know more about the discussions he had with his family and the draft report to get a better understanding.
When a player declares early, they are basically mitigating their financial risk of getting injured and hurting their earning potential as a professional player; however, once you get outside of the first two rounds, the contact values (and bonuses) drop substantially. For that reason, I think it's always in the players best interest to try for that breakout year that is going to vault him into the first two rounds. Think of his senior year as more of a showcase to NFL teams. As it stands now, he is more likely to be drafted in the lower rounds or not drafted at all and an injury plagued or low production year isn't going to affect him nearly as much as that is already his draft profile. In other words, another season could only help him.
I think Collins is also making a mistake, but Valentine's decision is an even bigger head scratcher.
When a player declares early, they are basically mitigating their financial risk of getting injured and hurting their earning potential as a professional player; however, once you get outside of the first two rounds, the contact values (and bonuses) drop substantially. For that reason, I think it's always in the players best interest to try for that breakout year that is going to vault him into the first two rounds. Think of his senior year as more of a showcase to NFL teams. As it stands now, he is more likely to be drafted in the lower rounds or not drafted at all and an injury plagued or low production year isn't going to affect him nearly as much as that is already his draft profile. In other words, another season could only help him.
I think Collins is also making a mistake, but Valentine's decision is an even bigger head scratcher.
You can't teach being 6'4 and 325+ lbs. Was hoping he would stay but someone will draft him and he will have a long career in the pros I have no doubt.
But this is his big chance to not be a backup. Really hope he sticks around.
Has his degree. Can't blame him for being ready to move on with his life. Clearly would have helped us out, but not so sure it would have helped him as much as some think. Not a sure thing that he would move up after another season in Lincoln, and the risk of injury. He may be thinking that even if he spends next season on an NFL practice squad, he can get a whole lot better if football is his full time job rather than practicing the NCAA mandated 20 hours per week- or whatever it is. Plus, $300K or whatever the minimum is, is not a bad wage if you are smart with your money. Good luck to him.
there are a lot of players on NFL playoff teams who went undrafted. there is more to consider than just fully optimizing your draft number.
Wish him the best, but what I seen this year he should have stayed he isn't quite ready for the NFL.
This x1000. You only have so many years to play in the NFL in order to get to retirement. Also, when this is your full-time job working under the tutelage of NFL coaches , you are bound to improve more than being a college player. Unless you just love college football or have some huge college goals, if you think you can make a team it is best for you to get to the league.
P.S. To those posters above, stop the nonsense of this being on the Husker coaches. Unless VV says that, this kind of accusation is worthless.
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It's a gamble either way. He's betting he can make a team and get a good contract down the road. If he stayed he would have bet that he could improve his draft status and get a better first contract. Either way involves risk. There are no guarantees in life. Good luck to him. I feel better about it for him if he's got his degree.
I just did a quick Google search and it sounds like you have to play in 3 games for it to be considered a full year. I am on mobile and not 100% sure how to properly link it, maybe someone can help me? Here is the address
http://m.savannahnow.com/adam-van-b...ifying-nfl-pension-big-deal-players#gsc.tab=0
(Not claiming this article is 100% fact.)
If I'm not mistaken, Tyler Sash at Iowa had kind of the same situation (if this is in fact the case with VV, I have no idea)
Sash left after his junior year because his body was wearing down (shoulders I believe) and he decided to to try and get a jump start on that retirement plan and not use another year of wear and tear on his body.
If that is the case, I 100% understand his decision and I wish him the best.
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