USA Today ranks B1G coaches…

[V-Doub]

Big Ten college football coaches rankings: Ryan Day leads then difficult decisions

The ranking of the best coaches in the Big Ten starts with an obvious choice at No.1 but there's plenty of difficult decisions to make on the list.

www.usatoday.com

Rhule and Ferentz are too high IMO and Cignetti should higher. I’m very hopeful and optimistic that Rhule can win at a high level here, but I need to see a clear jump and/or improvement this year before I could rank Rhule higher than about 8ish league wide. But I do like USA Today’s optimism! GBR

 

[Bugeater]

Hope Rhule has a great year, but he's way too high right now on this list.

 

[StoneTempleHusker]

Might be one of the worst ranking lists I've ever seen someone put the time together to compose.

Wow.

 

[konaki]

You could put any one of those coaches ranked ahead of Rhule at Nebraska and they wouldn't do much better short term. For me Nebraska was and is a tear down build up program, there really are no short cuts to success. Facts are facts, Nebraska is just a hard place to get great players to come to, it will require winning seasons every year to get those great players. jmo

 

[jteten]

The praise for Rhule will be even higher after this upcoming season.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

The praise for Rhule will be even higher after this upcoming season.

Hope so

 

[thall_]

Did @headcard make this list? That’s honestly laughable.

How can Lanning be below Franklin when he’s never lost to him? He’s easily 2nd. And how can Rhule be ahead of Riley of when he’s like 0-4 against him?

 

[scarletred]

Caption Kirk and Rhule higher than what they should be, Bielema and Cignetti should be 4 and 5.

 

[ckriley]

I'd put Rhule in the 10-15 range and Ferentz in the 7-10 range. Ferentz's consistency and record over the last 10 years is impressive.

He's 96-45 since 2014. We'd kill to have that record.

 

[WHCSC]

He’s close

 

[HuskerMania257460]

For the lazy

1. Ryan Day, OSU
2. James Franklin, PSU
3. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
4. Dan Lanning, UO
5. Matt Rhule, Nebraska
6. Curt Cignetti, IU
7. PJ Fleck, MN
8. Bret Bielema, IL
9. Lincoln Riley, USC
10. Greg Schiano, Rutgers
11. Luke Fickell, WI
12. Jonathan Smith, MSU
13. Barry Odom, Purdue
14. Sherron Moore, Michigan
15. Jedd Fisch, WA
16. Mike Locksley, Maryland
17. Deshaun Foster, UCLA
18. David Braun, Northwestern

Very weird list. I think Rhule will earn this spot eventually but he’s way over ranked for what he’s accomplished in the B1G. I’d put him at the 9 spot for what he’s accomplished so far.

 

[TOMHP]

I think most of the coaches on the list could match Ryan Day if they had his material every year. When you have a 4 and 5 star filled roster it is hard not to have success. I think Tom Osborne would have won a few more national championships with Day's material.

 

[TFrazier]

I think most of the coaches on the list could match Ryan Day if they had his material every year. When you have a 4 and 5 star filled roster it is hard not to have success. I think Tom Osborne would have won a few more national championships with Day's material.

He just needed to coach a few years more.

 

[comaxds]

Caption Kirk and Rhule higher than what they should be, Bielema and Cignetti should be 4 and 5.

Cigneti brought his team with him. Until he can prove he can recruit he is too high IMO

 

[comaxds]

I think most of the coaches on the list could match Ryan Day if they had his material every year. When you have a 4 and 5 star filled roster it is hard not to have success. I think Tom Osborne would have won a few more national championships with Day's material.

Bucks got 14 drafted and still return 11 starters. Their depth is amazing and any of those coaches on the list could win that talent.

 

[TFrazier]

Cigneti brought his team with him. Until he can prove he can recruit he is too high IMO

Well he recruited his team at his previous stop and then recruited them to Indiana so he has that going for him.

 

[StoneTempleHusker]

Bucks got 14 drafted and still return 11 starters. Their depth is amazing and any of those coaches on the list could win that talent.

Hate to break it to you, but recruiting is a major item for coaches.

Be it the high school ranks or the portal, you need a salesman.

 

[baseball31ne]

Lanning is too low at four. The ass whooping in the playoffs aside.

 

[kakdawg]

Did @headcard make this list? That’s honestly laughable.

How can Lanning be below Franklin when he’s never lost to him? He’s easily 2nd. And how can Rhule be ahead of Riley of when he’s like 0-4 against him?

Well most people won't acknowledge it but PLAYERS actually matters. Just because a coaches TEAM beats another coaches TEAM doesn't mean that coach is a better coach. It's not that simple...

That said I'd definitely have Lanning much higher, Rhule lower and Bret a bit higher.

How good would Cignetti be with Day's talent? How good would Rhule be with Lannings talent?

That's why it's harder than just who beat who. Should Michigan coach be ahead of Day? He did beat him right?


Holla

 

[kakdawg]

I think most of the coaches on the list could match Ryan Day if they had his material every year. When you have a 4 and 5 star filled roster it is hard not to have success. I think Tom Osborne would have won a few more national championships with Day's material.

TO is an all time great who coached in a pretty bad conference for a long time. That has to be taken into consideration. If you were to look at just records Day at his current rate would probably be considered better to the naked eye. Coached in a better conference also. That said I wouldn't swap him out for TO under any circumstances. Put Day in TOs spot and I don't think he's as successful. Put TO at OSU with that talent I think he might become Nick Saban.

When we had close to the best talent in the country under TO like we did from about 93-97 it was almost like cheating he was so good.



Holla

 

[Chuck003]

Big Ten college football coaches rankings: Ryan Day leads then difficult decisions

The ranking of the best coaches in the Big Ten starts with an obvious choice at No.1 but there's plenty of difficult decisions to make on the list.

www.usatoday.com

Rhule and Ferentz are too high IMO and Cignetti should higher. I’m very hopeful and optimistic that Rhule can win at a high level here, but I need to see a clear jump and/or improvement this year before I could rank Rhule higher than about 8ish league wide. But I do like USA Today’s optimism! GBR

If .500 coaches are ranked that high, then the BIG TEN is a bigger joke than I thought it was.

 

[Chuck003]

The praise for Rhule will be even higher after this upcoming season.

Yeah. You bet. If he can get his winning percentage above .523, all bets are off.

 

[JOHNNY N]

Seems about right for Rhule.

 

[RBigredMax]

If .500 coaches are ranked that high, then the BIG TEN is a bigger joke than I thought it was.

Of those below Rhule - who would you rather take?

 

[jteten]

Yeah. You bet. If he can get his winning percentage above .523, all bets are off.

Yes, because year one of full rebuilds should be weighed the same as all other seasons.

 

[V-Doub]

Yeah. You bet. If he can get his winning percentage above .523, all bets are off.

He’s ranked too high IMO but what is the deal with Kuck Ferentz? Dude hasn’t sniffed a B1G championship in over 20 fvcking years. Had a decent run from 99 to about 04 but once OSU and Michigan got their shit together and the conference expanded he has done jack shit.

I think he’s made the B1G championship game 2 or 3 times in the last 23 years and got booty blasted by 50 every time. Guy is probably one if not the most overrated coach in CFB. And furthermore, iowa better hope he’s not a great coach. Cause if Kuck Ferentz is a great a coach and couldn’t win jack shit for over 20 years those tools are straight fvcked when he retires. Lucky for iowa he’s not a great coach at all, not even close, so I think there’s a better than average chance they can still go 8-4 every year with someone else. Can’t imagine sticking with a crusty old loser for that long and gaslighting myself and anyone else stupid enough to believe that guy is a good coach. Almost everything he does is antiquated and broiled in stubborn pride.

The only things he’s done well is establishing and maintaining a culture and keeping Phil Parker from leaving. Imagine the career that guy could’ve have if Kuck hadn’t poured poison honey in his ear and convinced him iowa could actually be something. Parker could’ve gone to the SEC (almost anywhere else) and become an all time great DC and won championships. Instead he let Ferentz hold his career back and shovel shit on what could’ve been one of the greatest DCs all time.

Modern era, 2005ish till now, Ferentz is the most overrated coach in CFB. Game has completely passed him by, but he has convinced the herks they can’t do any better (or they’ve convinced themselves) for 20+ years, which is something I guess… Something pathetic and hilarious.

 

[Spinner45]

Lincoln Riley #9 -
81-24 over all HC record
3 CFP appearances.
Never had a losing season in 7 seasons
3 Heisman winners


Matt Rhule # 5
70-83 over all HC record
Zero CFP appearances
5 Winning seasons 3 losing seasons 1 breakeven
Zero Heisman winners
Nice Guy award and off season champ
Won at Temple

Lincoln 5-0 vs Matt

yeah, ranking seems legit.

USA Today likes nice guys.

 

[Walleye79]

If .500 coaches are ranked that high, then the BIG TEN is a bigger joke than I thought it was.

You can say the Big is a joke all you want but they own the CFB world right now.

 

[RedMyMind]

Lincoln Riley #9 -
81-24 over all HC record
3 CFP appearances.
Never had a losing season in 7 seasons
3 Heisman winners


Matt Rhule # 5
70-83 over all HC record
Zero CFP appearances
5 Winning seasons 3 losing seasons 1 breakeven
Zero Heisman winners
Nice Guy award and off season champ
Won at Temple

Lincoln 5-0 vs Matt

yeah, ranking seems legit.

USA Today likes nice guys.

Lincoln Riley is the ghost of Frank Solich. He hasn't really shown he can do things without inheriting it.

 

[Spinner45]

Lincoln Riley is the ghost of Frank Solich. He hasn't really shown he can do things without inheriting it.

Maybe. But he’s still 5-0 against Rhule, including last year when he should have won. The proof is in the pudding. Excuses or results? I’ll take results. Matt Rhule’s one bad season away from being retired

 

[regoratsginrom]

Of those below Rhule - who would you rather take?

I think Bielma is a better overall coach than Rhule. Would I want him? No.

 

[RedMyMind]

Maybe. But he’s still 5-0 against Rhule, including last year when he should have won. The proof is in the pudding. Excuses or results? I’ll take results. Matt Rhule’s one bad season away from being retired

Disagree with all of it

 

[RBigredMax]

I think Bielma is a better overall coach than Rhule. Would I want him? No.

I think this year will be a defining year for Rhule and will quiet some of the haters. I think there are some really good coaches - Lincoln Riley, Bielema, but I would want either of those guys at Nebraska. So while he’s higher than his record deserves - I wouldn’t take anyone below him.

 

[jkeb]

"Some people were born on third base and think they hit a triple"

 

[Truewooper]

I think this year will be a defining year for Rhule and will quiet some of the haters. I think there are some really good coaches - Lincoln Riley, Bielema, but I would want either of those guys at Nebraska. So while he’s higher than his record deserves - I wouldn’t take anyone below him.

I see 9 wins ish this year. Rhule needs to figure out how to at least the winnable games until he's going to be number 5.

 

[V-Doub]

"Some people were born on third base and think they hit a triple"

This should be the title of Ryan Day’s biography…

 

[V-Doub]

I think this year will be a defining year for Rhule and will quiet some of the haters. I think there are some really good coaches - Lincoln Riley, Bielema, but I would want either of those guys at Nebraska. So while he’s higher than his record deserves - I wouldn’t take anyone below him.

I might take Lincoln Riley over Rhule, if he gets himself a decent DC. When his defenses were good (not even great) he did pretty well at OU. Can he field a B1G caliber defense at USC? IDK, last year’s defense was a little better, if they cut out the turmoil and find a consistent decent QB, and they improve a little more on defense they could be a 10 win team this year. We’ll see…

 

[thall_]

Well most people won't acknowledge it but PLAYERS actually matters. Just because a coaches TEAM beats another coaches TEAM doesn't mean that coach is a better coach. It's not that simple...

That said I'd definitely have Lanning much higher, Rhule lower and Bret a bit higher.

How good would Cignetti be with Day's talent? How good would Rhule be with Lannings talent?

That's why it's harder than just who beat who. Should Michigan coach be ahead of Day? He did beat him right?


Holla

Lanning and his influence is largely responsible for getting those players so I’d say it’s inseparable

 

[Chuck003]

I think Bielma is a better overall coach than Rhule. Would I want him? No.

Riley, Bielema, Cignetti and Odom ( great hire). Not that it matters, but SI had Rhule number 14. I can't stand Curt or Bielema, but i want to win. They win.

 

[Truewooper]

Riley, Bielema, Cignetti and Odom ( great hire). Not that it matters, but SI had Rhule number 14. I can't stand Curt or Bielema, but i want to win. They win.

I've always been a Bielema guy. Not sure what happened at Arkansas but getting bottom feeder Illinois where he has...Imagine what he could do at a school with resources.