Urban takes a shot at Herman .... "They are your players!"
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When Herman said that I cringed. It's like coaches want as long of a honeymoon as possible so they go to the "we have a lack of talent here" card so people say, "They need at least five years." Good on Urban for calling this out.
While lots of people here love to trumpet that way of thinking, I have never heard Riley flat out say this. He took his lumps and kept coaching.
i admire Urban for saying this, and no doubt it was a mentality that helped his team go undefeated his first year at Ohio State.
At the same time, I don't think it's as black and white as all that. Whether people want to admit it or not, Riley's first year here had players that didn't consider themselves Mike's players. And I'm sure it's true of a lot of other places as well.
The sin here was Herman actually saying this out loud. Not sure what he was thinking.
At the same time, I don't think it's as black and white as all that. Whether people want to admit it or not, Riley's first year here had players that didn't consider themselves Mike's players. And I'm sure it's true of a lot of other places as well.
The sin here was Herman actually saying this out loud. Not sure what he was thinking.
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I'm actually kinda curious what the relationship was like between Herman and Meyer. Other than they worked together I have no idea.
I agree, Herman's not saying anything that a good number of fans and coaches already know. Its just not a good look to abandon the coach speak. Although fans hate the coach speak too.
I agree, Herman's not saying anything that a good number of fans and coaches already know. Its just not a good look to abandon the coach speak. Although fans hate the coach speak too.
True. But, like you said, Coach Riley didn't go out and say it publicly. He always praised and supported his players. Herman decided to throw the kids he's played millions to coach under bus, after the first game.
Would an AD answering a question about the talent level of a program, at a press conference firing a coach, be in the same vein? Asking for a friend
Urban inherited a team with Rivals recruiting rankings of 4, 3, 25, and 11 (08-11). Sweatervest left him with ample talent. Texas' rankings in the four years before Herman were 24, 20, 12 and 11. Plenty of good kids to win with. To compare, OU's ranking in that same period were 15, 15, 14, 16. The Sooner's average rank is lower than the Longhorns. So Herman should probably shut up.
My momma never said, "If you ain't got nothing good to say, just start lying."
Coming from a man impersonating a woman, I'm not sure how to take this.
Did your momma say, "If you get kicked off of a Husker message board, come back as your wife"?
Hmm, sounds like a transgender situation. Probably won't play well down there in the Bible Belt.
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Depends if in less than a year that same AD starts giving heretofore verboten in-season interviews to offer public support, even though 90% of the feedback said AD was getting was positive already; or suddenly goes silent about whether merely beating Iowa is a job expectation for the NU coach.
http://www.ketv.com/article/exclusi...-shawn-eichorst-i-like-where-we-re-at/7655577
Not sure I follow. The discussion is about coaches, or other members of the administration, blaming talent level or having "fairy dust" to sprinkle.
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Is "fairy dust slang for steroids? If so then Osborne would need to enter the conversation.
Why do you feel a need to take a shot at the individual who is most responsible for the success of this program every chance you can get?
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few of us who are hired to do a job can make excuses and blame others. I am amazed that coaches who are given millions to coach a game can basically pass the buck time and time again. I supposed at some point it becomes a rat race to survive and cash as many checks as possible before circumstance leads to a firing. If Diaco can hide long enough he could come away with a couple million before another staff comes in. I guess I get it now...the ridiculous salaries breed lack of accountability. Its like the amount you are paid justifies that you can't make mistakes...instead of realizing that your pay means you need to be perfect.
Its not that Urban is wrong, its just weird that he actually said it. There must be some real bad blood between these two
Probably because he offense has not been quite as good since Herman left and that has cost them some games.
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