Under Riley: First 9 vs Last 9

[red rover 70]

Ok fine. Fair enough. I am done too. Peace

Peace all around...

Go Big Red!

 

[bigboxes]

How about you understand what he's saying because that's how it is with basketball. It's okay to be wrong about something; learn and move on. Basketball is always referenced with the second year of the school calendar. The 2016-2017 season will forever be referenced as 2017. The 2015-2016 will forever be referenced as 2016. Rinse, repeat.

Villanova beat North Carolina in the 2016 national title game therefore 'Nova win the title in 2016. Duke beat Wisconsin in the 2015 national title game therefore Duke won the title in 2016. So on and so on.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/basketball-men/d1

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/basketball-men/d1/2015

And everyone knew what Rover meant. I'm not defending him, he's an adult. But baiting him endlessly until he blows is getting your jollies at someone else expense.

Rover, there are times when you just need to move on and press the ignore button in your mind. There's no reason you can't discuss something with jlb in the future when you're not angry. If I put everyone I disagreed with on this board on ignore I'd be like Where'd everybody go?

 

[red rover 70]

And everyone knew what Rover meant. I'm not defending him, he's an adult. But baiting him endlessly until he blows is getting your jollies at someone else expense.

Rover, there are times when you just need to move on and press the ignore button in your mind. There's no reason you can't discuss something with jlb in the future when you're not angry. If I put everyone I disagreed with on this board on ignore I'd be like Where'd everybody go?

Nice sentiment and thoughtful.

 

[Truehuskerfan]

First off, I acknowledged my hyperbole in comparing OSU to 95 NU. I admitted that was a bad comparison. So stop cherry picking my posts to make your point. I am on here to discuss football and not win debates, so I am always willing to walk back an exaggerated comment, which I did.

Second, I never said OSU was one of the greatest teams of all time. All I was trying to do was emphasize how really good I think they are. And I do think they are very, very good. I stupidly compared them to 95 Nebraska in order to emphasize that point. As I said, my bad. And if you weren't trying to win a debate and make me look bad, rather than just discuss football, you would have acknowledged my admission of exaggeration and said "ok, good. Now let's have a conversation."

Third... I never said we had "no shot" to win. I did say I think, based on my analysis of the two teams, that we are going to get blown out in that game. I stand by that prediction. I hope like hell I am wrong. I hope like hell that our days of getting blown out by superior teams are over. I hope like hell that we win. But I do think we are going to lose by a lot of points.

If you think I am wrong please discuss why you think so. I would be most happy to see some positive insights on our chances in that game. And please don't just say that there are always instances of superior teams losing to inferior ones on any given day. Of course there are. I hope this is one of them. But I still think they ARE the superior team. And unless it really is "one of those unlikely upsets" I think we lose. Please tell me why I am wrong in thinking that.

My problem with what you say is this: You think we will lose to Ohio State. Fine. The vast majority of even our own fans would agree with you. That's not exactly a controversial position that's going to cause any discord. So why do you need to take it a step further and say they will blow us out? Is that a factor that you feel really needs to be said? Say you end up being right-are you going to go around and brag that you predicted us to get blown out and you were right? What kind of fan would do that? Say you end up being wrong-how does that make you look when you predict disaster and you are wrong? My experience in the past is that people who predict us to not only lose but to get blown out usually do so because they want it to happen(although they will rarely admit that). I don't think that's the case with you. So I'm just trying to figure out what your angle is with why you feel the need to not only say we will lose but get blown out? If you are as positive about this team as you claim to be, then don't we deserve a little benefit of the doubt to not just assume that we will get blown out-or at least not feeling like you have to boldly and loudly proclaim it to everyone?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

My problem with what you say is this: You think we will lose to Ohio State. Fine. The vast majority of even our own fans would agree with you. That's not exactly a controversial position that's going to cause any discord. So why do you need to take it a step further and say they will blow us out? Is that a factor that you feel really needs to be said? Say you end up being right-are you going to go around and brag that you predicted us to get blown out and you were right? What kind of fan would do that? Say you end up being wrong-how does that make you look when you predict disaster and you are wrong? My experience in the past is that people who predict us to not only lose but to get blown out usually do so because they want it to happen(although they will rarely admit that). I don't think that's the case with you. So I'm just trying to figure out what your angle is with why you feel the need to not only say we will lose but get blown out? If you are as positive about this team as you claim to be, then don't we deserve a little benefit of the doubt to not just assume that we will get blown out-or at least not feeling like you have to boldly and loudly proclaim it to everyone?

It's a football chat board. I stated my opinion. I think we will lose big in Columbus. I don't feel a "need" to say it any more than you felt a "need" to get in my grille about my honest opinion. It's what I think so I said so. I will clear all of my future posts through you to make sure they are board kosher.
I am not assuming we will get blown out nor am I setting myself up to brag. Geez. I have been on this board going on 9 years and have never ever come on here to gloat or brag. It just happens to be my honest opinion that OSU is f$cking great this year and we do not match up well against them.
I have no "angle". I have no agenda. I am not a secret Bolover who hates Riley. I like Riley and I like this team. But I think we will lose big in Columbus. Sorry that seems to upset you. I guess you would have no issue if I merely predicted a loss. So your irritation is that I have a different point spread prediction from you. So what would be an acceptable point spread for me to predict just so I know for future reference? 14 points or less? 20? What is the magic number I must stay below in predicting a loss to avoid being accused of all the BS I have been accused of in this thread?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Where is your attorney? I want you to bet 2 month's salary but laying 28 points. Since he was requesting I bet that amount straight up. Just an idea. Consult with counsel then have your people call my people.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Where is your attorney? I want you to bet 2 month's salary but laying 28 points. Since he was requesting I bet that amount straight up. Just an idea. Consult with counsel then have your people call my people.

Lol. That made me chuckle. You wouldn't want two months of my salary. Ha.
I run a sheep farm. Perhaps I could have my people contact your people to set up some lambs as collateral.

 

[red rover 70]

Pennsy has been one of the honest brokers on this board that wasn't happy with the Riley hire. And I can respect that. We all have differing opinions that we bring to the conversation. What bothers me are people who are pumping an agenda. Like the Bo people who for all them years did more then turn a blind eye to his craziness. The actually helped in shutting down honest debate about these problems. I'm just a true blue Nebraska boy that loves his Huskers no matter what. And to watch these people poison what I love was agonising. If you're a fan of college football with allegiance with another school post buy all means. But don't expect me to act like a bandwagon jumper. I will cheer and defend my Huskers till my last breath. And when I read Pennsy I get where he's coming from. He wants to see more from us and I can respect that.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Penny is the biggest bloner on this board - he secretly wants Nu to fail so Pelini gets his revenge. He thinks Riley made some mistakes his first year and questions his ties to his Defensive co-ordinator and his special teams coach and whether they can help this team to win titles.............


Ooops sorry thats not Penny thats that Ahole snohomishred - sorry penny

 

[Truehuskerfan]

It's a football chat board. I stated my opinion. I think we will lose big in Columbus. I don't feel a "need" to say it any more than you felt a "need" to get in my grille about my honest opinion. It's what I think so I said so. I will clear all of my future posts through you to make sure they are board kosher.
I am not assuming we will get blown out nor am I setting myself up to brag. Geez. I have been on this board going on 9 years and have never ever come on here to gloat or brag. It just happens to be my honest opinion that OSU is f$cking great this year and we do not match up well against them.
I have no "angle". I have no agenda. I am not a secret Bolover who hates Riley. I like Riley and I like this team. But I think we will lose big in Columbus. Sorry that seems to upset you. I guess you would have no issue if I merely predicted a loss. So your irritation is that I have a different point spread prediction from you. So what would be an acceptable point spread for me to predict just so I know for future reference? 14 points or less? 20? What is the magic number I must stay below in predicting a loss to avoid being accused of all the BS I have been accused of in this thread?

Why do we even need to be talking point spreads at this point? So, when somebody puts up a prediction thread the week before the game, you can predict a blowout if you want to your heart's content(I'm sure you will, since you seem to be so darn sure it will happen and so darn excited to tell everyone that it will happen). But why at this point do you feel the need to say so loudly and clearly "not only do I think we are going to get beat by Ohio State, but we are going to get blown out!" It's not the fact you pick us to lose that bothers me. It's not really even the fact you think we will get blown out. It's the fact you seem to feel the need to repeat it so often and make it so clear to everyone. People who don't want something bad to happen don't feel the need to tell everyone that bad thing will happen.

 

[red rover 70]

And I have zero respect for people who act like Jimmy the Greek. Make a friendly Sig bet is one thing but to carry on about betting a months salary straight up or against the spread has no place here. Take that boorish behavior somewhere else.

 

[red rover 70]

Penny is the biggest bloner on this board - he secretly wants Nu to fail so Pelini gets his revenge. He thinks Riley made some mistakes his first year and questions his ties to his Defensive co-ordinator and his special teams coach and whether they can help this team to win titles.............


Ooops sorry thats not Penny thats that Ahole snohomishred - sorry penny

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Pennsy has been one of the honest brokers on this board that wasn't happy with the Riley hire. And I can respect that. We all have differing opinions that we bring to the conversation. What bothers me are people who are pumping an agenda. Like the Bo people who for all them years did more then turn a blind eye to his craziness. The actually helped in shutting down honest debate about these problems. I'm just a true blue Nebraska boy that loves his Huskers no matter what. And to watch these people poison what I love was agonising. If you're a fan of college football with allegiance with another school post buy all means. But don't expect me to act like a bandwagon jumper. I will cheer and defend my Huskers till my last breath. And when I read Pennsy I get where he's coming from. He wants to see more from us and I can respect that.

I was not happy with the Riley hire. But I have since grown to like Riley and his staff very much. I think he has us going in a very positive direction.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Penny is the biggest bloner on this board - he secretly wants Nu to fail so Pelini gets his revenge. He thinks Riley made some mistakes his first year and questions his ties to his Defensive co-ordinator and his special teams coach and whether they can help this team to win titles.............


Ooops sorry thats not Penny thats that Ahole snohomishred - sorry penny

Ha. I was getting worried as I read that! Carry on...

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Why do we even need to be talking point spreads at this point? So, when somebody puts up a prediction thread the week before the game, you can predict a blowout if you want to your heart's content(I'm sure you will, since you seem to be so darn sure it will happen and so darn excited to tell everyone that it will happen). But why at this point do you feel the need to say so loudly and clearly "not only do I think we are going to get beat by Ohio State, but we are going to get blown out!" It's not the fact you pick us to lose that bothers me. It's not really even the fact you think we will get blown out. It's the fact you seem to feel the need to repeat it so often and make it so clear to everyone. People who don't want something bad to happen don't feel the need to tell everyone that bad thing will happen.

I keep repeating it only because everyone keeps calling me out on it.
Geez... what is your problem? Let it go already. I made a prediction on a football chat board and now you won't let it drop and are going all Dr. Phil on me with your armchair psychoanalysis of what my motives must be.
Yeah right... I secretly want us to get blown out. I secretly hate NU. That is why I have been on this board all these years. Because I hate NU and want us to lose. Oh ... and I love to come on here and brag about my predictions and so on. Not.
I am an irrational nut who feels some need to scream loudly and repeatedly "hey everyone we are gonna lose big!"....
Or... I am just a guy with an opinion he wanted to share. But that is boring I know. Does not fit your narrative.
So let's see. Your issue is not that I think we will lose. Nor (a change) are you upset that I think we will lose big. Now you say your issue is that I am repeating it too much and too loudly. So I guess we are making progress. I have at least gotten you to admit there is nothing wrong with predicting a big loss. But apparently, according to you, such predictions are time sensitive and should only be posted the week of that game in the prediction thread. And such predictions must only be stated once. Glad to know about these new rules. I was not aware of them until now.
Dude, give it a rest. I made a prediction. People don't like it. I have no agenda. Move on

 

[barney44]

the Nebraska team didn't have to play well enough to beat Ohio St or Wisconsin, Indiana or Maryland. They only had to play well enough to beat Illinois. They did. I don't understand how or why someone want to compare how a team plays versus opponent A to how they MAY PLAY versus opponent B.

The Pittsburgh Steelers lost by 30 to Philadelphia a week later too the Chiefs to the woodshed. Indiana turned the ball over 5 times and lost to Wake Forest then a week later beat Michigan St. Too many variables, matchups, game conditions, mistakes, don't necessarily transfer week to week or game to game.

I think the pattern is consistent enough here to make a pretty good assumption. It's football, obviously it's not a 100% guarantee on anything but it's a fact that Ohio State executes at a higher level than Nebraska on a more consistent basis. I'm sorry but that to me is an issue that will eventually lead to problems. You can take a team full of "scrubs" as some would call them and make them a pretty big pain in the ass on the football field with simple execution. If our execution was anything like thiers then our backups would be finishing these games instead of our starters..

 

[cornhustler]

I keep repeating it only because everyone keeps calling me out on it.
Geez... what is your problem? Let it go already. I made a prediction on a football chat board and now you won't let it drop and are going all Dr. Phil on me with your armchair psychoanalysis of what my motives must be.

Whenever I read your posts I hear the words in Marc Marons voice. I mean that in the best possible way. Thanks.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Whenever I read your posts I hear the words in Marc Marons voice. I mean that in the best possible way. Thanks.

Ha. Thanks. I take that as a compliment. I love Marc Maron.

 

[redwine65]

Well...He left BGSU for Utah (Step up) and Utah for UF (Step up) so those make sense...Then he sort of retired/quit...that one is weird...but he got another promotion to OSU. So, this is just a guess, OSU is his last job.

Did'nt he retire/quit florida because his family was about to go on ncaa probation and he missed them (or something like that)?
with that said, Im not sure why we didn't hire him when he left utah?????

 

[TruHusker]

Pennsy has been one of the honest brokers on this board that wasn't happy with the Riley hire. And I can respect that. We all have differing opinions that we bring to the conversation. What bothers me are people who are pumping an agenda. Like the Bo people who for all them years did more then turn a blind eye to his craziness. The actually helped in shutting down honest debate about these problems. I'm just a true blue Nebraska boy that loves his Huskers no matter what. And to watch these people poison what I love was agonising. If you're a fan of college football with allegiance with another school post buy all means. But don't expect me to act like a bandwagon jumper. I will cheer and defend my Huskers till my last breath. And when I read Pennsy I get where he's coming from. He wants to see more from us and I can respect that.

Who would be pumping an agenda? You? Me? Pensy? Red? The reality that logic presents is even if you say you don't have an agenda, it means you do have an agenda. When one says they don't believe in something it really means they do believe in something. Think about it, I know it is deep. I really dislike how Bo keeps coming up, no matter what the conversation was originally about. And its not the pro-Bo crowd who bring him up either. I also don't understand who poisoned the well? Some fans? I think that should be clear who is responsible for that. What do fans think they are true-blue and have to be sunshine pumpers all of the time at the expense of discourse on the problems that still exist and are clearly evident. That is not being a fan it is being an ostrich.

OK, so now I will go back to being a good fan who pretends to not see what is happening on the field (or flat doesn't know or see it) so I can feel good about myself and my team and just explain it all away. Reality is a pain in the butt but it sometimes happens.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I think the pattern is consistent enough here to make a pretty good assumption. It's football, obviously it's not a 100% guarantee on anything but it's a fact that Ohio State executes at a higher level than Nebraska on a more consistent basis. I'm sorry but that to me is an issue that will eventually lead to problems. You can take a team full of "scrubs" as some would call them and make them a pretty big pain in the ass on the football field with simple execution. If our execution was anything like thiers then our backups would be finishing these games instead of our starters..

Your speaking about hypotheticals and assumptions.

If you look at the seasons as a whole, over the past 4 seasons Ohio St played at a higher and more consistent level than their opponents, but somehow managed to play close games and at time lose games to inferior talent. Much of the time those games took place in Columbus.

The point of the matter is, how the team played against Wyoming does not mean that is how they will play against Indiana.

 

[bigboxes]

The point of the matter is, how the team played against Wyoming does not mean that is how they will play against Indiana.

Yup. It's all about matchups.