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Transfers on the horizon

I hope this is accurate. I wanted to see Wilbon starting all year. It's not impossible that he could leave and still not badmouth the program, but we shall see.
Wasn't Wilbon injured? Thought I read something about a knee? Maybe the wrong guy.
 
I maybe did not state that correctly - yes this staff is pass first yet so many people are supporting that and I feel this is a huge mistake one large enough that even if the defense can get itself respectable on a consistent basis, will doom this staff to failure
For me (and I think many others) we fully agree that it's a mistake. That said, that's what they want to do so we at least want to see how well they can do it so that there are no excuses. None of the BS from last time of "Oh well those 3 years don't count because that's not even the offense they wanted to be running, we have to see what they can do when they actually have their players and they can run their system."

Nope. This recruiting cycle is all yours, get out there and load up on your guys for what you want to do. Leopard doesn't change its spots, they can't be badgered into being coaches who want to bludgeon you with run game all day. So I wanna see how good you are at being who you are, because we can already assume you'll suck at being who you're not.
 
We have most years been able to recruit and play really good RB's it has been shown this is one of our strengths and not just one or two players. This is due to fact that NU is still viewed as a running school - If we go away from that we will no longer be able to consistently recruit great backs

For all you guys saying we need to go the passing game - I say this: We will never be able to consistently recruit great passing QB's to NU but we can get RB's - So for logics sake does it make sense for this staff to go pass happy.


Sure hope the "For all you guys..." part was not directed at me. I was just answering the question that was asked. We need a strong running game to succeed....no doubt about it, but I also don't think we can just say the period AA was here was our only time we had a strong running game either.
 
Any chance that Tommy sees the obvious writing on the wall that he simply lacks the skill set for this offense? Someone mentioned recently that he would be gone next year. There is no denying that he would be more successful in a different offense.

I cannot see that happening. TA is not horrible, but in this offense he makes poor decisions and has poor mechanics. There may not be more time for him. That being said, he's, without a doubt, the best we have at that position. There will be no one to challenge him as we head into the fall. POB may be the next best thing since sliced bread, but he'll be a rookie freshman. Barring injury there is absolutely no reason that POB would be the starter at the beginning of the season. POB best chance at taking the job is for TA to go down and then tear it up when given a chance. I would guess that POB would struggle until he learns the offense and gets some reps. I just don't see that as likely in year one. As much as some would like TA to go elsewhere I don't think that the team is ready for that. Our best chance next year is with TA under center. If Tommy can mature and grow I can easily see a team turnaround as most of the losses were close.
 
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TA could bolt if he can graduate before next season starts. For some of you, be careful what you wish for....
 
Archie I agree with you to a certain extent to the fact everyone was mediocre, but with both Wilbon and Ozigbo I saw a few more flashes that made me more interested in what they could do if they were the primary IB. There were some definite flashes of pure good that I never really got with Newby or Cross. I'm hoping we get an elite RB because besides potentially Wilbon, I think we are just good at the IB position. I think Wilbon could potentially be a stud (have heard a few things through the grapevine) and I guess we will see how Bryant turns out, but the fact of the matter is we need to go after some game changing potential IB's because we don't have a proven one at this point.

By all accounts Wilbon had to get some off the field things handled or he wasn't going to play. So his situation is different.

Ozigbo had a couple nice runs against an average Illinois defense, and while I wouldn't have minded seeing some more carries, I also don't fault the staff for sticking with Newby and Cross. We also know that the other side of the coin is the 'rhythm' argument that has some merit with respect to carries.

I absolutely want the best guy to play. Situations where the best player isn't playing are frustrating (e.g., Brandon Jackson) but that's not what happened this last year.

We can certainly agree that we need someone to emerge before next fall.
 
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TA could bolt if he can graduate before next season starts. For some of you, be careful what you wish for....
After his big speech to his bros? I don't think so, and even if he loses the job, which he may, TA will go down swinging.. you gotta respect that no matter what.
 
No doubt. Anyone hoping TA transfers is a fool. I'm not exactly sure who will start next year but we damn sure want the depth at QB in case of injuries.

Riley would be a fool to have a repeat of this year. And anyway it might not matter after the University is done instigating the rape allegations. This talk of next year could all be moot.
 
Riley would be a fool to have a repeat of this year. And anyway it might not matter after the University is done instigating the rape allegations. This talk of next year could all be moot.

The best way for Riley to avoid a repeat of next year is to build depth at QB. Whether that depth comes from POB or Tommy is unclear; however, either option is better than having Tommy transfer.
 
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Riley would be a fool to have a repeat of this year. And anyway it might not matter after the University is done instigating the rape allegations. This talk of next year could all be moot.

Because the Lincoln police don't have nearly the experience as the University when it comes to investigating violent crime .... and the school has what jurisdiction over off-campus housing?
 
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TA could bolt if he can graduate before next season starts. For some of you, be careful what you wish for....

I thought we established that we don't want anyone if they don't want to be here. Are we only applying that rule to teenagers who change their mind about being a Husker?
 
No doubt. Anyone hoping TA transfers is a fool. I'm not exactly sure who will start next year but we damn sure want the depth at QB in case of injuries.

Operative word in this statement is "depth". We have none at the QB position. Heck I thought we actually had it at RB but my confidence in that position is shaken. Back to QB, I don't care who starts. Just make good decisions and MANAGE the game.
 
So many good points here. Its easy to get caught up in the emotion at times. A few off the cuff thoughts.

** The coaches are jelling as a program management team over time; this is a good thing. An example; position coaches who don't like to rotate and develop will learn from the success of those that do.
*** The Athletic Department and their efforts in recruiting and player development will probably be found to be premier in the country again.
*** We have some position coaches who are potentially great. So nice to see freshmen players play and tackle well. LB coach rotates and goes next man up.
*** With a head coach and a top qb coach who can improve a Manning - I believe TA caught them by surprise by his willingness to regress and throw their teachings out the window. They had tried to grab a couple of top walk-ons last year and build in this recruiting class. We got bit; we didn't have the extra development time with qb's behind TA; because they felt TA needed it - they ignored his Spring game performance and some bad practices to some extent. I believe the World Herald articles after the Iowa game, give you all the insight. We must treat the qb position like any other ; play the best, rotate for development as can; jerk a guy progressively when he needs a break from a poor performance/
*** HCMR has stated all great teams are built on tough outstanding lines. So guessing he gets it and will get all on board. I love our line guys and developing effort.
*** Blackshirts are coming back. I believe assistant coaches are getting traction.
*** If the " box " is stacked; the coaches will try alternatives that are wise according to overall coaching lore - turns out TA hurt us a few time in his choices, but coaches are growing in this area also. We have been desperate for TE performance; which is coming on and will be a big emphasis and contributor in the future. Will enhance a growing run game.
*** Running backs : ugh; too much subjective BS about better pass blocking or such, they are changing the play mix and Cross and soon other talent for YAC ; are changing the game plan. Good backs emerge everywhere in the BIG; we will be ok and still have a chance to be exceptional.
*** Hurrah for our receivers coach and coaches in that area.
*** These coaches turn up emerging talent; a great thing. They will get more than their share of others with success over time.
*** This was one of the greatest " what if " seasons of all time. " It coulda been " ; dominates the thoughts. Definitely need to get some of the wrong Red out of our eyes after some games : and go glass half full and filling up; in our support. GBR
 
On the big red wrap up last night they discussed this and their thoughts were very few but a few will transfer. Not a large number. At least that was their thoughts on the subject.
 
I think most players find it rather hard to leave...We probably think, as outsiders, that it is easy for them to just pick up and go but I am sure it is a rather difficult choice (for the ones that have a choice)
 
** The coaches are jelling as a program management team over time; this is a good thing. An example; position coaches who don't like to rotate and develop will learn from the success of those that do.
Let's hope so. Cav was saying the right things early on about this being the first place where he had two units that could play, he later announced only the best 5 will play and he stuck to it. I am sunshine pumping this staff (for now), but the lack of other lineman getting PT is the one thing I really hate. I don't advocate the seemingly random plug and play the last two staffs did week-to-week, but come on, other guys need a chance too.
 
So many good points here. Its easy to get caught up in the emotion at times. A few off the cuff thoughts.

** The coaches are jelling as a program management team over time; this is a good thing. An example; position coaches who don't like to rotate and develop will learn from the success of those that do.
*** The Athletic Department and their efforts in recruiting and player development will probably be found to be premier in the country again.
*** We have some position coaches who are potentially great. So nice to see freshmen players play and tackle well. LB coach rotates and goes next man up.
*** With a head coach and a top qb coach who can improve a Manning - I believe TA caught them by surprise by his willingness to regress and throw their teachings out the window. They had tried to grab a couple of top walk-ons last year and build in this recruiting class. We got bit; we didn't have the extra development time with qb's behind TA; because they felt TA needed it - they ignored his Spring game performance and some bad practices to some extent. I believe the World Herald articles after the Iowa game, give you all the insight. We must treat the qb position like any other ; play the best, rotate for development as can; jerk a guy progressively when he needs a break from a poor performance/
*** HCMR has stated all great teams are built on tough outstanding lines. So guessing he gets it and will get all on board. I love our line guys and developing effort.
*** Blackshirts are coming back. I believe assistant coaches are getting traction.
*** If the " box " is stacked; the coaches will try alternatives that are wise according to overall coaching lore - turns out TA hurt us a few time in his choices, but coaches are growing in this area also. We have been desperate for TE performance; which is coming on and will be a big emphasis and contributor in the future. Will enhance a growing run game.
*** Running backs : ugh; too much subjective BS about better pass blocking or such, they are changing the play mix and Cross and soon other talent for YAC ; are changing the game plan. Good backs emerge everywhere in the BIG; we will be ok and still have a chance to be exceptional.
*** Hurrah for our receivers coach and coaches in that area.
*** These coaches turn up emerging talent; a great thing. They will get more than their share of others with success over time.
*** This was one of the greatest " what if " seasons of all time. " It coulda been " ; dominates the thoughts. Definitely need to get some of the wrong Red out of our eyes after some games : and go glass half full and filling up; in our support. GBR

This is a great post!
10/10
 
I am very concerned about the RB position - at the start of the year we looked to be loaded - now we already lost one 4 star - Taylor is gone - Wilbon may be gone - so we are left with Newby who is weak running inside and a freshman - not a good thing that this position has gone from a strength to a liability so quickly
How do you know that Tsylor is gone? Did he say that publicly?
 
How do you know that Tsylor is gone? Did he say that publicly?

He doesn't. He's just projecting his fears onto others.

HTO has said in the past that it wouldn't be surprising to see Taylor leave due to his never really coming back from injury mentally (and I'm not even sure if that's the case anymore), but pretty much every other RB prognostication has been due to some fans dissatisfaction with the run game getting out of hand. Not real data.
 
I have seen nothing or no one with credibility that is suggesting TA transfers. He is the incumbent QB1.....without any competition at all. POB would have to be a freshman phenom at QB for him to supplant Armstrong. You might want to go ahead and hope for a tremendous improvement in decision making over the offseason, because TA is our guy.


yup+100
 
He doesn't. He's just projecting his fears onto others.

HTO has said in the past that it wouldn't be surprising to see Taylor leave due to his never really coming back from injury mentally (and I'm not even sure if that's the case anymore), but pretty much every other RB prognostication has been due to some fans dissatisfaction with the run game getting out of hand. Not real data.

I've heard Taylor has been nothing but a team player, i.e., he hasn't complained about his situation. If he chooses to transfer to a lower tier school to get PT at RB I wish him nothing but the best.
 
In another thread someone mentioned that Snyder at KSU is hard after Tommy. Now that is a scheme in which Tommy might be able to flourish. If Riley believes that Tommy isn't the guy, it would be hard sitting him on the bench for freshman. If anyone thinks there was a lack of team unity this year, wait until that happens next year. Obviously, if he is the guy then you keep him around...but if he's not then maybe he should push him to Snyder.
 
In another thread someone mentioned that Snyder at KSU is hard after Tommy. Now that is a scheme in which Tommy might be able to flourish. If Riley believes that Tommy isn't the guy, it would be hard sitting him on the bench for freshman. If anyone thinks there was a lack of team unity this year, wait until that happens next year. Obviously, if he is the guy then you keep him around...but if he's not then maybe he should push him to Snyder.

Snyder is hard after Tommy who? I think maybe you misread something.
 
Any chance that Tommy sees the obvious writing on the wall that he simply lacks the skill set for this offense? Someone mentioned recently that he would be gone next year. There is no denying that he would be more successful in a different offense.
So what offense does he have the skill set for? I can't think of any.
 
So what offense does he have the skill set for? I can't think of any.
I think he'd be a hell of an option QB. He runs it nicely from what I've seen. Tough runner, makes great decisions when he's using his feet. I could see him being a very nice QB in the old offense from the Osborne/Solich era.
 
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