Track and FB

[inWV]

Cooper is a revelation as a recruiter. You can’t have speed if you don’t recruit it. NU will have two competitive sprinters on the roster this fall plus Coleman.who can also move. Cooper called the sprinters coach 5 minutes after he looked at Turner’s film with notice of an offer.

 

[baseball31ne]

Back in the 80’s and 90’s how many of the track team indoor guys ran they played football? Seem to remember a few each year.

 

[HBK4life]

Damn. Brice and Jaylen can fly. Jet sweep anyone?

 

[cubsker]

4 WR all running go routes, that's the offense.

 

[Spectrumalaska]

If I remember correctly, Tony Ortiz was New Jersey 100m HS champion.

He could really run as a linebacker.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

If I remember correctly, Tony Ortiz was New Jersey 100m HS champion.

He could really run as a linebacker.

He was a hurdles guy I think. Dude could run though.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Yeah, I’m gonna be that guy…

They do have to be able to play real football to actually be useful as speed guys. I do love that Nebraska is bringing in burners, but the burners have to be able to do more than that and/or the offense needs to be versatile as well.

Like Lloyd is WILDLY fast, but could be contained this year. However, because of OW’s QB and such, even if you took him away, they could still kill you.

To be honest, the kid from Gretna that got injured(#26, Joe Roll I think) played faster than anyone in Nebraska. SDSU got a steal there.

 

[huskerfan66]

Back in the 80’s and 90’s how many of the track team indoor guys ran they played football? Seem to remember a few each year.

Yep

 

[Harry Caray]

Yeah, I’m gonna be that guy…

They do have to be able to play real football to actually be useful as speed guys. I do love that Nebraska is bringing in burners, but the burners have to be able to do more than that and/or the offense needs to be versatile as well.

Like Lloyd is WILDLY fast, but could be contained this year. However, because of OW’s QB and such, even if you took him away, they could still kill you.

To be honest, the kid from Gretna that got injured(#26, Joe Roll I think) played faster than anyone in Nebraska. SDSU got a steal there.

I agree, and Frost tried something similar in the beginning when he recruited track star sprinters like Jamie Nance, Jaron Woodyard, and Mike Williams. None of them did much at all on the football field. I believe Rahmir Johnson was also one of the fastest sprinters in the country in high school, but he hasn't done a lot either.

Ability to change speed/direction is more important in football than 100m sprint speed. Very rarely in football is anyone going to just sprint in a straight line.

 

[inWV]

I agree, and Frost tried something similar in the beginning when he recruited track star sprinters like Jamie Nance, Jaron Woodyard, and Mike Williams. None of them did much at all on the football field. I believe Rahmir Johnson was also one of the fastest sprinters in the country in high school, but he hasn't done a lot either.

Ability to change speed/direction is more important in football than 100m sprint speed. Very rarely in football is anyone going to just sprint in a straight line.

50% of kids that come into the program contribute. I guess we will find out whether the staff has the chops to develop kids like this.
Interesting you mentioned the Nance kid. He is playing CB at Utah State.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I agree, and Frost tried something similar in the beginning when he recruited track star sprinters like Jamie Nance, Jaron Woodyard, and Mike Williams. None of them did much at all on the football field. I believe Rahmir Johnson was also one of the fastest sprinters in the country in high school, but he hasn't done a lot either.

Ability to change speed/direction is more important in football than 100m sprint speed. Very rarely in football is anyone going to just sprint in a straight line.

Rahmir was nowhere near one of the fastest sprinters in high school.
Not even in the same zip code.

 

[cubsker]

50% of kids that come into the program contribute. I guess we will find out whether the staff has the chops to develop kids like this.
Interesting you mentioned the Nance kid. He is playing CB at Utah State.

Mcgriff has been decent for them at WR

 

[inWV]

Rahmir was nowhere near one of the fastest sprinters in high school.
Not even in the same zip code.

Rahmir is fast, but isn’t in the same zip code as Lloyd and Turner. We saw a couple of years ago how he could be used. Maybe Rhule will find a use for him.

 

[Harry Caray]

Rahmir was nowhere near one of the fastest sprinters in high school.
Not even in the same zip code.

Rahmir ran a 10.5 in the 100m and 21.46 in the 200m. Both times are faster than the times that Jaylen Lloyd ran in last year's State Track Meet. He was absolutely in the same zip code.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Cooper is a revelation as a recruiter. You can’t have speed if you don’t recruit it. NU will have two competitive sprinters on the roster this fall plus Coleman.who can also move. Cooper called the sprinters coach 5 minutes after he looked at Turner’s film with notice of an offer.

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Don't know how Lloyd wound up running in Lane 1 in the 200 meters, especially with half the race being run around a turn, but he's a kid that could surprise.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Rahmir ran a 10.5 in the 100m and 21.46 in the 200m. Both times are faster than the times that Jaylen Lloyd ran in last year's State Track Meet. He was absolutely in the same zip code.

You said Rahmir, in high school, was one of the fastest sprinters in the country. Not even close. And I'm not comparing him to Lloyd because that's not what your comment was based on. Was that after Lloyd had done his long jump and triple jump events?

Would you like to compare him to Brice Turner now?

 

[Harry Caray]

Demariyon Houston was another guy Frost recruited that was a star track sprinter in high school, but didn't do anything on the football field.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Demariyon Houston was another guy Frost recruited that was a star track sprinter in high school, but didn't do anything on the football field.

So if a couple of track guys didn't do much in football, does that mean none of them will?

Ahmann Green and Eric Crouch were track guys who did pretty well in football.

 

[Harry Caray]

You said Rahmir, in high school, was one of the fastest sprinters in the country. Not even close. And I'm not comparing him to Lloyd because that's not what your comment was based on. Was that after Lloyd had done his long jump and triple jump events?

Would you like to compare him to Brice Turner now?

Well, he was good enough to qualify for Nationals every year in high school. I assume that means he was one of the fastest sprinters in the country. What sprint times do you think are "elite" for a high school sprinter?

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

So if a couple of track guys didn't do much in football, does that mean none of them will?

Ahmann Green and Eric Crouch were track guys who did pretty well in football.

Correction, they were football players who did pretty well in track.

And Crouch’s FAT times just don’t match up with legit sprinters.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Well, he was good enough to qualify for Nationals every year in high school. I assume that means he was one of the fastest sprinters in the country. What sprint times do you think are "elite" for a high school sprinter?

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The indoor track is not an outdoor track. Elite high school is 10.25 and faster.

I worked with Olympic sprinters for 11 years, so I know a little about what's fast and what's really fast.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Correction, they were football players who did pretty well in track.

And Crouch’s FAT times just don’t match up with legit sprinters.

Eric was a 10.4 kid.

 

[Harry Caray]

So if a couple of track guys didn't do much in football, does that mean none of them will?

Ahmann Green and Eric Crouch were track guys who did pretty well in football.

lol Green and Crouch were Parade All-Americans who dominated in football in high school and were recruited by all the powerhouse football programs.

Tell me what other football offers Brice Turner, Jaylen Llloyd, and Eric Fields had?

 

[SomedayHusker]

Demariyon Houston was another guy Frost recruited that was a star track sprinter in high school, but didn't do anything on the football field.

To be fair, barely any players materialized under Frost in general. Worst developmental program in the nation is what we were. Tough for players to do as much when we were always in Martinez -ball and constantly turning it over.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Eric was a 10.4 kid.

Nope…getting hand timed by some ex-AD’s buddy at a random meet doesn’t count.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Correction, they were football players who did pretty well in track.

And Crouch’s FAT times just don’t match up with legit sprinters.

If you want to talk about legit sprinters very few football players are fast enough to join that conversation.

Of course, Bob Hayes of the Dallas Cowboys was an Olympic gold medal winner at 100 meters and anchored the 4 X 100-meter relay team to another gold medal, and he had a nice pro football career.

Any player in college football that can run a legit 10.5 meters is a threat to go the distance if they get a step.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

If you want to talk about legit sprinters very few football players are fast enough to join that conversation.

Of course, Bob Hayes of the Dallas Cowboys was an Olympic gold medal winner at 100 meters and anchored the 4 X 100-meter relay team to another gold medal, and he had a nice pro football career.

Any player in college football that can run a legit 10.5 meters is a threat to go the distance if they get a step.

Sounds good. Eric Crouch still never ran a legit 10.5 though.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Nope…getting hand timed by some ex-AD’s buddy at a random meet doesn’t count.

As a senior, he was the Metro Conference champion at both the 100 meters and the 200 meters. As a junior, he won the 200 meters. He was plenty fast for a QB.

Was that because one of his Dad's AD's buddies timed those races?

Omaha tends to have some fast kids year in and year out.

 

[Harry Caray]

The indoor track is not an outdoor track. Elite high school is 10.25 and faster.

I worked with Olympic sprinters for 11 years, so I know a little about what's fast and what's really fast.

Come on, half the sprinters in the last olympics didn't even run 10.25 in the first heats.

Any high school kid who can run a 10.5 100m has elite track speed. The point is, that doesn't mean they are D-I caliber football players just because they can run fast in a straight line without pads and a helmet on..

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Sounds good. Eric Crouch still never ran a legit 10.5 though.

Of course he could.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Come on, half the sprinters in the last olympics didn't even run 10.25 in the first heats.

Any high school kid who can run a 10.5 100m has elite track speed. The point is, that doesn't mean they are D-I caliber football players just because they can run fast in a straight line without pads and a helmet on..

You run just fast enough in the early heats just to qualify. Do you think they run the prelims to medal?

10.5 times at 100 meters in Texas, California, and Florida won't medal in any of those state's Class systems.

The defenders have pads and helmets on too.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

As a senior, he was the Metro Conference champion at both the 100 meters and the 200 meters. As a junior, he won the 200 meters. He was plenty fast for a QB.

Never said he wasn’t. Stop moving the goalposts.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

You seem really unhappy here, you should join us Iowa fans. I can DM you, there’s a group of us that get together for some wild nights.

Dirty Mike and the boys…So dang good!

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Never said he wasn’t. Stop moving the goalposts.

I didn't move the goalposts, the original comment was Rahmir was one of the fastest sprinters in high school, and he wasn't even close.

Harry Caray went from Rahmir, to Lloyd, to Demariyon Houston to what other football schools offered Turner, Lloyd, etc.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

I didn't move the goalposts, the original comment was Rahmir was one of the fastest sprinters in high school, and he wasn't even close.

Harry Caray went from Rahmir, to Lloyd, to Demariyon Houston to what other football schools offered Turner, Lloyd, etc.

Sounds good. You were wrong about Crouch though.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

Sounds good. You were wrong about Crouch though.

LOL.

Are you gonna come and join the thread I'll do on Tuesday about horseracing?

We'll see which one of us puts the other on Ignore first. LOL

 

[NUSouth]

I agree, and Frost tried something similar in the beginning when he recruited track star sprinters like Jamie Nance, Jaron Woodyard, and Mike Williams. None of them did much at all on the football field. I believe Rahmir Johnson was also one of the fastest sprinters in the country in high school, but he hasn't done a lot either.

Ability to change speed/direction is more important in football than 100m sprint speed. Very rarely in football is anyone going to just sprint in a straight line.

Plus being able to catch a ball and hang onto it when somebody hits you.