In the 20s, Ruth hit 467 homers. Second was Rogers Hornsby with 250.
You can't overstate how much better Ruth was than his peers.
You can't overstate how much better Ruth was than his peers.
This is impossible for me. I'd only go back to about 1964 of players I actually watched play.Impossible to narrow it to 5! I can't really get invested in guys that didn't play in my lifetime, so I'd be more into listing guys in the last 25-30 years. Junior Griffey, Bonds, Jeter, Trout, Maddux, Big Unit, Pujols.... can't list A-Rod, just can't.
Yes, IMO, Koufax was the greatest, most dominating pitcher of all-time. He had maybe the greatest run - from 1961 to 1966 - of any pitcher ever. And he did all of this without ever hitting his prime - he was forced to retire at the age of 31 (injury) and was an automatic - 5 year - pick into the HOF at age of 36 - the youngest player ever elected. He had the nickname of "the left arm of God."Wasn’t Koufax even better?
Doesn't make him the greatest ever.. His peers weren't goodIn the 20s, Ruth hit 467 homers. Second was Rogers Hornsby with 250.
You can't overstate how much better Ruth was than his peers.
That's great.. doesn't make him the greatest of all time.. Makes him the greatest in the era of a bunch of bumsSo did everyone else at that time. In 1920, Ruth hit 54 dingers. Second was George Sisler, another hall of famer, with 19.
Ruth was on a different planet back then.
So 85mph is unathletic? Did Greg Maddux suck because he didn't throw fire?Doesn't make him the greatest ever.. His peers weren't good
He played against a bunch of unathletic dudes that threw 85.. If we're going to bask in his glory then the gophers are the greatest football team of all time right? They Dominated the 30s
No but Greg Maddux had much more in his bag than those losers from the 20s. Not even comparableSo 85mph is unathletic? Did Greg Maddux suck because he didn't throw fire?
A bunch of bums? And he was NOT head and shoulders above his peers...just a different kind of great...That's great.. doesn't make him the greatest of all time.. Makes him the greatest in the era of a bunch of bums
I don't totally agree, but if he'd have played in any ballpark other than the old Candlestick, he may well have hit 800 homers in his career. That wind blowing in from leftfield costs him many, many homers.friends, the list BEGINS with Willie Mays.... he was the gold standard.....
He had more movement on his pitches than any pitcher I've seen.No but Greg Maddux had much more in his bag than those losers from the 20s. Not even comparable
This is probably the best list I’ve seen. Kofaux stretch from 62-66 is one of the most dominating stretches we’ve seen in the game but he didn’t have the longevity. Could argue Pedro followed him,A tough question. I'll go with these four position players and one pitcher:
Babe Ruth
Ted Williams
Willie Mays
Hank Aaron
Walter Johnson
Honorable Mention:
Lou Gehrig
Ken Griffey Jr.
Ty Cobb
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Yes a bunch of bums.. They'd be average at best in modern era..A bunch of bums? And he was NOT head and shoulders above his peers...just a different kind of great...
That's great.. doesn't make him the greatest of all time.. Makes him the greatest in the era of a bunch of bums
Major fallacy using today’s metrics to judge a different era. Babe belongs on listYes a bunch of bums.. They'd be average at best in modern era..
I've been a diehard fan (Reds) since I was a kid and had a chance to see Koufax pitch against the Reds at old Crosley field in-around 1965 and I'm telling you, the guy just totally INTIMIDATED everyone during that stretch. He - of course - had a great fastball but is curve and control were unmatched - maybe in history. And I HATED the Dodgers and Yankees back then. Him and Drysdale were a heck of a 1-2 punch.This is probably the best list I’ve seen. Kofaux stretch from 62-66 is one of the most dominating stretches we’ve seen in the game but he didn’t have the longevity. Could argue Pedro followed him,
But Vice versa with the Hammer, I am not sure Hank Aaron was ever even the best player in a given year that he played. 57 he won the MVP but that was super close ballot. But obviously body of work wise, Hank is a top 5 dude
Also life long Reds fan and you are not lying … Koufax was untouchable… but also the other pitchers of the day… Gibson, Marischal, Drysdale, Ford, pierce, Palmer, Spahn, Burdette, Cuellar… many great armsI've been a diehard fan (Reds) since I was a kid and had a chance to see Koufax pitch against the Reds at old Crosley field in-around 1965 and I'm telling you, the guy just totally INTIMIDATED everyone during that stretch. He - of course - had a great fastball but is curve and control were unmatched - maybe in history. And I HATED the Dodgers and Yankees back then. Him and Drysdale were a heck of a 1-2 punch.
Not trying to slight others, but I sure wish everyone in this thread could have witnessed that run by Koufax - he was the greatest ever but like you said injury cut short his career
Yep, that's why it's so hard to pick a top 5 ever. We've all witnessed great ones. As for every day, all around players, I'd go with Willie Mays but you could make the argument for several others. But Mr. Baseball - the one who really got the game to take off into America's past time - has to be Babe RuthAlso life long Reds fan and you are not lying … Koufax was untouchable… but also the other pitchers of the day… Gibson, Marischal, Drysdale, Ford, pierce, Palmer, Spahn, Burdette, Cuellar… many great arms
Then why do you all use it when the U of M Vermin bring up their championships?Major fallacy using today’s metrics to judge a different era. Babe belongs on list