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Tony White and Terrance Knighton reportedly leaving for FSU


White’s defense stone walled OSU and Iowa
Had trouble versus RPO teams which Bo’s defenses had plenty of issues against as well among other things
Our best D coordinator in a LONG time
Our biggest issues were not on that side of the ball
OSU stonewalled themselves with a vanilla running game . They could have scored in the air anytime. Which they did when they had to . And Iowa last night they were not going to let the QB do anything except what he did . I agree TW is a good DC but he was to inconsistent against a RPO team . And that’s the issue with the 3-3-5 IMO.
 
White is clearly our best coach. Had a bad game against Illinois. I have no idea why people are so down on him this season. But the way people talk on here you'd think he was Bob Diaco. I'd get the hell out too if I were him.

Same with Robinson as a player. I don't get the hate.
same people who point the finger at him do all they can to prop up the OL and head coach

not a coincidence
 
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OSU stonewalled themselves with a vanilla running game . They could have scored in the air anytime. Which they did when they had to . And Iowa last night they were not going to let the QB do anything except what he did . I agree TW is a good DC but he was to inconsistent against a RPO team . And that’s the issue with the 3-3-5 IMO.
Really struggles against even mediocre quarterback play
Gotta say it’s a tough pill to swallow losing to the Altmyers, Garbers, Maiavas of the world
Though the personnel on the field hasn’t been great, especially on the second and third level of that defense
Would love to see what we could do with more Cayair Wrights and some athletic safeties that play their assignments without having poor eye discipline
 
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Really struggles against even mediocre quarterback play
Gotta say it’s a tough pill to swallow losing to the Altmyers, Garbers, Maiavas of the world
offense had the ball with a chance to win or tie each of those 3 and did nothing.

not to mention the terrible spots the offense put the defense in yet again all season long.
 
offense had the ball with a chance to win or tie each of those 3 and did nothing.

not to mention the terrible spots the offense put the defense in yet again all season long.
The defense was better overall last year in the secondary, what changed besides Butler? More quarters coverage? I wonder why they changed the scheme this year
 
We wont get "the best guy". We will likely have John Butler unless we get another Syracuse def coordinator. That is a real possibility as well.
The Syracuse DC is Elijah Robinson He was at A$ M Rhule tried to get him at Nebraska but he was making to much at A$M the staff got fired and he wasn’t retained. Rhule gave him his first job . Does it occur to anyone maybe Rhule doesn’t think the 3-3-5 is a good fit in the big after 2 years. Rhule wanted to change a little on D this year. I am sure White didn’t like it . I wouldn’t necessarily like it either it maybe as simple as a philosophy change. Rhule ran a 4-3 before. . Let see how it plays out.
 
The defense was better overall last year in the secondary, what changed besides Butler? More quarters coverage? I wonder why they changed the scheme this year
well we lost by far our best corner, Q Newsome

nobody but me seemed worried about that

tough to replace a true 1-on-1 lockdown corner in cfb

that's the biggest change
 
The Syracuse DC is Elijah Robinson He was at A$ M Rhule tried to get him at Nebraska but he was making to much at A$M the staff got fired and he wasn’t retained. Rhule gave him his first job . Does it occur to anyone maybe Rhule doesn’t think the 3-3-5 is a good fit in the big after 2 years. Rhule wanted to change a little on D this year. I am sure White didn’t like it . I wouldn’t necessarily like it either it maybe as simple as a philosophy change. Rhule ran a 4-3 before. . Let see how it plays out.
whatever Rhule wants turns to shit instantly
 
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I think Tony White is someone who can't see the forest for the trees. He's so focused on moving to the next level and being a HC that he may end up sabotaging his own chances. The best thing for him would be to be patient, settle down and stick it out another year here. But perhaps he's just not built that way. Sucks, but might be best for both parties to move on instead of serving as a constant distraction.
Other than actual interest from other programs, what makes White any more focused on moving on to the next level than anyone else on the staff?
 
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They weren't any good against ucla, Illinois, or wisconsin and pretty meh against usc too. That's a third of the season. Throw out utep and uni and its 4 out of 10 they sucked.
We held UNI to 3 points which is great but I didn't feel good about the D after that game. UNI sucked hard this year and it felt like we couldn't get off the field until UNI would go away from what was working for them and stall their own drive.
 
The Syracuse DC is Elijah Robinson He was at A$ M Rhule tried to get him at Nebraska but he was making to much at A$M the staff got fired and he wasn’t retained. Rhule gave him his first job . Does it occur to anyone maybe Rhule doesn’t think the 3-3-5 is a good fit in the big after 2 years. Rhule wanted to change a little on D this year. I am sure White didn’t like it . I wouldn’t necessarily like it either it maybe as simple as a philosophy change. Rhule ran a 4-3 before. . Let see how it plays out.
Projection of a 4-3 for next year.
DE-Jimari, Cam, PWill, Williams
DT-Jeudy, Jackson, RVP
LB-Shavers, Gbayor, Thompson, MaGahee
 
Maybe I’m delusional, but I think Robinson will have a great nfl career. I think we’ll see how good he was next year.
Yeah, I never understood the hate. I wonder if people watch the same games I do.
I also think husker fans are a tad delusional and think the NT/DT job is to make tackles for loss literally every play and if they dont do that it means they suck.
Robinson is clearly one of our best players and would play anywhere in the big ten.
 
Yeah, I never understood the hate. I wonder if people watch the same games I do.
I also think husker fans are a tad delusional and think the NT/DT job is to make tackles for loss literally every play and if they dont do that it means they suck.
Robinson is clearly one of our best players and would play anywhere in the big ten.
I've literally never seen hate for Ty Robinson. I was hard on him early in his career, but that was because he was playing nowhere near his potential. He's had a great final 2 years here, that's for sure, and I'm happy he decided to come back. I don't think anybody is arguing he's not our best player.
 
I've literally never seen hate for Ty Robinson. I was hard on him early in his career, but that was because he was playing nowhere near his potential. He's had a great final 2 years here, that's for sure, and I'm happy he decided to come back. I don't think anybody is arguing he's not our best player.
It's exceedingly difficult for ANYONE to be dominant at that position as an underclassman.
 
More like Rhule is a .500 Coach Syndrome, but yea

I’ve got it
Matt-Rhule.jpg

He's your coach
 
Maybe I’m delusional, but I think Robinson will have a great nfl career. I think we’ll see how good he was next year.
Yeah I really don't see what he doesn't do well as a DT/DE hybrid. He moves well, is relentless, has great strength and quickness, plenty of size, and offers intangibles like blocking field goals and blocking as a FB. If he falls to the 4th round he is a steal.
 
Yeah I really don't see what he doesn't do well as a DT/DE hybrid. He moves well, is relentless, has great strength and quickness, plenty of size, and offers intangibles like blocking field goals and blocking as a FB. If he falls to the 4th round he is a steal.
Most hate comes from 1 play where a Purdue qb broke ankles 1 v1 in the backfield in a critical 3rd down play a few years ago. That and as was mentioned most people don't know his job is to eat blockers.
 
Yeah I really don't see what he doesn't do well as a DT/DE hybrid. He moves well, is relentless, has great strength and quickness, plenty of size, and offers intangibles like blocking field goals and blocking as a FB. If he falls to the 4th round he is a steal.
I never intended for my post to say I hate ty far from it i mentioned he had been a little inconsistent earlier in the season but so was Nash, i think Fridays game was Nash’s best for the season but i understand he’s been hurt. I’m happy for those two for getting to a bowl game it’s well deserved
 
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Question if not Rhule then who?
Last 2 years of Bo was bad especially with recruiting
Riley not the answer and didn't recruit well either
Frost wow just wow How bad that was
Recruiting was bad especially front lines and QB
Nick Saban old and retired
Urban Meyer not coming so who else would we go after?
 
Question if not Rhule then who?
Last 2 years of Bo was bad especially with recruiting
Riley not the answer and didn't recruit well either
Frost wow just wow How bad that was
Recruiting was bad especially front lines and QB
Nick Saban old and retired
Urban Meyer not coming so who else would we go after?
That's the thing, it's a crapshoot. In hindsight Kenny Dillingham may have been best bet. Or maybe ASU is right for him and he would have failed. MRis recruiting in a way that will build a better team. Closing this year's and Next years class will be pivitol. MOST F THESE GAMES SHOULDNT EVEN BE CLOSE GAMES. He hasn't failed here yet, the runway is getting shorter and speed isn't there yet.
 
White’s defense stone walled OSU and Iowa
Had trouble versus RPO teams which Bo’s defenses had plenty of issues against as well among other things
Our best D coordinator in a LONG time
Our biggest issues were not on that side of the ball
Ahem… I think you meant “Carl’s defense”
 
White’s defense stone walled OSU and Iowa
Had trouble versus RPO teams which Bo’s defenses had plenty of issues against as well among other things
Our best D coordinator in a LONG time
Our biggest issues were not on that side of the ball

And we can get better on D. Everyone sees, especially TW, that we need some more size physicality and athleticism on the back end. This can be addressed. We also need to replace a couple of key pieces on the D-line. This can addressed as well. Ty was awesome this year but it doesn’t have to drop off if the coaches are doing their job. (I know, I know…)
 
It's exceedingly difficult for ANYONE to be dominant at that position as an underclassman.
I guess there are 5 years to judge him by. I thought he had a decent true freshman year, he came in lighter and had really decent speed to make plays at the edge. His second year was rough. He put on weight, lost a lot of speed, and yet was still getting pushed around like he didn't realize he was bigger than the other guy. In the middle of the third year is where he started coming on and playing with some confidence. 4th year was really his breakout year and then 5th year he maintained dominant play. Better coaching throughout and I think he would have developed faster, but he's an NFL talent for sure and always was.
 
If NU keeps a three man front on D, RVP is Ty’s replacement , with Jeudy, Butler, Cam and Jackson also getting front line level reps. Hopefully the Terry kid is ready to play early. I think Jeudy and RVP are good to play DT in a four man front, with Jackson and perhaps Terry in reserve. Not a lot of depth there. But NU would have solid options at DE.
 
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Question if not Rhule then who?
Last 2 years of Bo was bad especially with recruiting
Riley not the answer and didn't recruit well either
Frost wow just wow How bad that was
Recruiting was bad especially front lines and QB
Nick Saban old and retired
Urban Meyer not coming so who else would we go after?
I believe Rhule has recruited well but I believe he’s completely dependent on his OC. Dana can probably be that guy. Organizationally I think Rhule is good. Having a former head coach as his OC could be a very good symbiosis.
 
I believe Rhule has recruited well but I believe he’s completely dependent on his OC. Dana can probably be that guy. Organizationally I think Rhule is good. Having a former head coach as his OC could be a very good symbiosis.
I thought you were asked not to use big words like that on weekends we have a lot of Iowa fans visit the board?
 
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