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This would be a perfect game to get Wilbon some serious reps

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and see what he brings to our offense.

We've seen Newby and he's done well. However, I know a lot of people agree with me that it would be nice to see #21 get a legit shot. I'd like to see if he's the back that can turn 3 yards into 5 and get the 1st down.

Reilly and staff are willing to make some personnel changes in the secondary, which is good; sure wish they'd consider using more than one RB for the entire game. Who knows what a combo of Newby, Wilbon and Cross would do to a defense?
 
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With the quickness of the line being touted by Southern Misss, running some screen passes and plays that option off the ends would be effective in my opinion. Wilbon might be the best option in those packages.
 
I'd like to see us run cross 30 times in one game, before he graduates…just to see what he would do with a game of a proper amounts of carries.
 
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Riley's on record saying he wants the reps to go just one back. It won't surprise me to see both Wilbon and Taylor transfer at the end of the season.
 
Gemini6 said:
and see what he brings to our offense.

We've seen Newby and he's done well. However, I know a lot of people agree with me that it would be nice to see #21 get a legit shot. I'd like to see if he's the back that can turn 3 yards into 5 and get the 1st down.

Reilly and staff are willing to make some personnel changes in the secondary, which is good; sure wish they'd consider using more than one RB for the entire game. Who knows what a combo of Newby, Wilbon and Cross would do to a defense?
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IF things go well I would like to see Wilbon, Cross AND Taylor get some carries if for no other reason than to save hits on Newby. Newby is the man, and its a long season with no bye week. Pound Cross right at their "quick" defensive line and see how they deal with that.
 
Gemini6 said:
and see what he brings to our offense.

We've seen Newby and he's done well. However, I know a lot of people agree with me that it would be nice to see #21 get a legit shot. I'd like to see if he's the back that can turn 3 yards into 5 and get the 1st down.

Reilly and staff are willing to make some personnel changes in the secondary, which is good; sure wish they'd consider using more than one RB for the entire game. Who knows what a combo of Newby, Wilbon and Cross would do to a defense?
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As long as Wilbon doesn't slow down or stop running when he confronts a defender I am all for it.
 
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We will probably see Newby most of the game and all come and express our rage during and after the game. I'd love to see him get the carries, just don't see it. Newby has been deemed the man, and I don't see that going away unless Wilbon houses every touch he has. The unwarranted Imani Cross love is always going to be there as well.
 
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What in the world is wrong with Newby getting the lion's share of carries? Since we can't call for the backup QB this year, we feel the need to call for the backup RB? Newby's been great so far. Madness.
 
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I am not at all impressed with Newby or Cross. In fact, of the two, Cross is a better back, but compared to others behind them and our past history of great running backs, neither of those two cut the mustard here. Coach would be better served to start Wilbon and move forward from there.
 
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leodisflowers said:
We will probably see Newby most of the game and all come and express our rage during and after the game. I'd love to see him get the carries, just don't see it. Newby has been deemed the man, and I don't see that going away unless Wilbon houses every touch he has. The unwarranted Imani Cross love is always going to be there as well.
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Did you not watch Cross's last TD run? The guy has a place in the offense since it appears that neither Wilbon or Newby run all that well in heavy traffic. I would like to see us pound Cross some inside. He is a yards after contact kind of guy. My hope for this game is that we get an early lead and then just beat them in to submission with our backup RBs while giving Newby most of the last 3 quarters off. To hell with the balance if we get the lead. Demoralize them by running it right at them for 75% of of the last 3 quarters. Wishful thinking on my part probably but I would love to see 3 or 4 backup RBs get lots of carries to the tune of maybe 10-12 each for Wilbon and Cross.
 
NikkiSixx said:
I am not at all impressed with Newby or Cross. In fact, of the two, Cross is a better back, but compared to others behind them and our past history of great running backs, neither of those two cut the mustard here. Coach would be better served to start Wilbon and move forward from there.
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Please explain to me given Newby's production and apparent better pass blocking WHY on God's green earth "coach would be better served to start Wilbon." Newby is the more complete back with great hands and he's averaging a terrific YPC. Yeah, he could be tougher to bring down, but he's a legit homerun threat when he catches the ball out of the backfield or gets an open hole to run through.
 
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dinglefritz said:
Did you not watch Cross's last TD run? The guy has a place in the offense since it appears that neither Wilbon or Newby run all that well in heavy traffic. I would like to see us pound Cross some inside. He is a yards after contact kind of guy. My hope for this game is that we get an early lead and then just beat them in to submission with our backup RBs while giving Newby most of the last 3 quarters off. To hell with the balance if we get the lead. Demoralize them by running it right at them for 75% of of the last 3 quarters. Wishful thinking on my part probably but I would love to see 3 or 4 backup RBs get lots of carries to the tune of maybe 10-12 each for Wilbon and Cross.
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Yeah I saw it. I also saw him not pick up a 3rd and 1, and I also see him with no acceleration and looking bad on any run that isn't straight ahead. Cross has had plenty of time to shine and has never done it. Great kid, but it's time to give his carries elsewhere. At this point I'd rather see Taylor or DO get the rock. They are the future.
 
dinglefritz said:
Please explain to me given Newby's production and apparent better pass blocking WHY on God's green earth "coach would be better served to start Wilbon." Newby is the more complete back with great hands and he's averaging a terrific YPC. Yeah, he could be tougher to bring down, but he's a legit homerun threat when he catches the ball out of the backfield or gets an open hole to run through.
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The fact he can make someone miss, is a threat to house it, and has on par speed with Newby??? Until he sucks in a game in pass pro I'm not going to hold it against him that Newby may be better. The fact of the matter is Newby is a serviceable back, but it is plain as day that he doesn't make people miss, doesn't finish his runs with authority, and isn't housing it unless it is wide open. I think that is why people would like to see what Wilbon can do because he has shown flashes.
 
dinglefritz said:
Please explain to me given Newby's production and apparent better pass blocking WHY on God's green earth "coach would be better served to start Wilbon." Newby is the more complete back with great hands and he's averaging a terrific YPC. Yeah, he could be tougher to bring down, but he's a legit homerun threat when he catches the ball out of the backfield or gets an open hole to run through.
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he's a legit home run threat? haha.. maybe against competition like Southern Alabama

look, it doesn't take a scientist to see how he plays and if you have watched other running backs here for any decent length of time, it's easy to see how mediocre he is.
 
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NikkiSixx said:
he's a legit home run threat? haha.. maybe against competition like Southern Alabama

look, it doesn't take a scientist to see how he plays and if you have watched other running backs here for any decent length of time, it's easy to see how mediocre he is.
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He's one of the fastest guys on the team. So yeah, he's a legit homerun threat when he gets in the open field. On top of that he has the best hands of all of our backs which fits best with how Langsdorf likes to run the offense. Complete package. Our best back according to Riley and Langsdorf. Good enough for me. Wilbon is 3rd string for a reason. Nice back. Great wiggle. Has some holes in his game.
 
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He's one of the fastest guys on the team. So yeah, he's a legit homerun threat when he gets in the open field. On top of that he has the best hands of all of our backs which fits best with how Langsdorf likes to run the offense. Complete package. Our best back according to Riley and Langsdorf. Good enough for me. Wilbon is 3rd string for a reason. Nice back. Great wiggle. Has some holes in his game.
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then why doesn't he put it on film then.. what i see from him on film is mediocre
 
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NikkiSixx said:
then why doesn't he put it on film then.. what i see from him on film is mediocre
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Our coaches watch every second of every play in practice and games. They see what Wilbon can and can't do and he obviously he "hasn't put it on tape". I get the attraction to Wilbon but this staff KNOWs RBs and they see Newby as clearly better. That's good enough for me because I don't get to see the mistakes that Wilbon must make in practice that are keeping him off the field. We are just blessed to have all of our backup RBs because it was just a few years ago that we didn't have that kind of depth there. Beck did a good job of recruiting some quality skill players at RB and WR IMO. Its a long season and Wilbon will get plenty of carries to show what he can do. Cheers
 
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dinglefritz said:
He's one of the fastest guys on the team. So yeah, he's a legit homerun threat when he gets in the open field. On top of that he has the best hands of all of our backs which fits best with how Langsdorf likes to run the offense. Complete package. Our best back according to Riley and Langsdorf. Good enough for me. Wilbon is 3rd string for a reason. Nice back. Great wiggle. Has some holes in his game.
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He's had plenty of open field. If it is a foot race, yes he may house it, but other than that I have seen the exact opposite. Do you watch practice? How do you know of these holes in his game?
 
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leodisflowers said:
He's had plenty of open field. If it is a foot race, yes he may house it, but other than that I have seen the exact opposite. Do you watch practice? How do you know of these holes in his game?
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Did Newby sleep with your girlfriend or what's the deal here? The guy is a very good all around back and evidently they trust him more the Wilbon to do the job. Trust your head coach to put his team in the best position to win and leave it at that. Wilbon will get plenty of chances to show what he can do. Right now he hasn't earned the starting job.
 
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Did Newby sleep with your girlfriend or what's the deal here? The guy is a very good all around back and evidently they trust him more the Wilbon to do the job. Trust your head coach to put his team in the best position to win and leave it at that. Wilbon will get plenty of chances to show what he can do. Right now he hasn't earned the starting job.
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you don't need to get personal with people on here dude.. you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, but you shouldn't go around insulting other people just because they disagree with you.
 
dinglefritz said:
Did Newby sleep with your girlfriend or what's the deal here? The guy is a very good all around back and evidently they trust him more the Wilbon to do the job. Trust your head coach to put his team in the best position to win and leave it at that. Wilbon will get plenty of chances to show what he can do. Right now he hasn't earned the starting job.
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Just putting my opinion on what I see. Not that hard of a concept to understand. There is plenty of people who have stated the same thing. No one has stated that Newby isn't a serviceable back, they are just stating what they have seen so far, and a lot of people want to see Wilbon run because of the glimpses they have seen of him.
 
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NikkiSixx said:
you don't need to get personal with people on here dude.. you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, but you shouldn't go around insulting other people just because they disagree with you.
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That isn't a personal insult. I just don't understand the questioning of our coaching staff's playing time decisions. They see EVERY play our backs are in on in practice and games and have said that Newby is our CLEAR number one back. To me its insulting to our coaching staff and Newby to keep advocating that Wilbon should be our starter. As I posted, I hope he gets 10-12 carries in this game but not because I'm advocating for him to be the starter. I TRUST this coaching staff to put the best guy on the field.
 
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That isn't a personal insult. I just don't understand the questioning of our coaching staff's playing time decisions. They see EVERY play our backs are in on in practice and games and have said that Newby is our CLEAR number one back. To me its insulting to our coaching staff and Newby to keep advocating that Wilbon should be our starter. As I posted, I hope he gets 10-12 carries in this game but not because I'm advocating for him to be the starter. I TRUST this coaching staff to put the best guy on the field.
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It's a message board. It's personal opinion. People come here to chat about Nebraska football and hash things they see for themselves as well as here information from people who see things at a more detailed level. If you feel it is insulting, then this probably isn't the place for you. I have faith in Riley and hopefully he can bring us back, but come on dude.
 
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Newby does not impress me. Seems tentative and find myself and others constantly screaming "GO!" or "hit the hole!" when it's there. His nice runs are a product of blocking and he doesn't seem to get any yac. I think he has good vision but he just needs to hit it harder. He has more speed than he uses...there's no aggression. Cross is better than most think. I liked Wilbon but I guess coaches know something we don't? We'll see.
 
NikkiSixx said:
you don't need to get personal with people on here dude.. you have your opinion and you're entitled to it, but you shouldn't go around insulting other people just because they disagree with you.
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*** Newby was very hesitant and had trouble with the ball as a freshman and improved as a soph ; but still showed his youth. Part of me says he is getting more reps because the coaches think he needs them to mature to the next level ability he has - worth the gamble; just how some guys mature and learn.
*** Wilbon gets the attention he does because he flashes in a difference maker way; has a dpe moment here and there; rare talent and needs reps because he is young and is maturing quickly . Posters see this and maybe more.
*** Cross: Pounding the snot out of some interior linemen and lb's will pay big dividends as a game progresses. Hard to take too many of those hits as a big lineman. Cross has some moves in the lb area and why can't he be given the chance to warm too a game when game opportunities will allow.
So; imo rotate unless you are developing a guy or the guy has a hot hand or its a hot moment
 
leodisflowers said:
Just putting my opinion on what I see. Not that hard of a concept to understand. There is plenty of people who have stated the same thing. No one has stated that Newby isn't a serviceable back, they are just stating what they have seen so far, and a lot of people want to see Wilbon run because of the glimpses they have seen of him.
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Running back is the second "highest profile" job on the team after quarterback.

Making the decision on who plays involves many factors including... rewarding older players (who have stuck it out), knowledge of the playbook, experience, pass blocking, saving players for the future, etc. I actually believe Wilbon's pass blocking might be holding him back at this time.

But, I'm still with you... I want to see more running with Wilbon and see his pass blocking improve.
 
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Did you miss the BYU game in regards to 3 RBs? You're asking for something they did the first game with poor results.
 
If you are playing against speed type D you run right at them. You don't give them the opportunity to use their speed and quickness by going laterally.

I too would like to see what Cross could do with multiple carries in a game and multiple series. Control the ball and take some of the pressure off of our D. Right now other teams are able to dictate things to us.I don't feel like Cross has been given the "shot" he needs.

Wilbon might be the real deal. I don't see enough body of work to know and I am not at practice. So to me when people say Wilbon should be starting then they are saying the coaching staff doesn't know what they are doing.
 
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Wilbon might be the real deal. I don't see enough body of work to know and I am not at practice. So to me when people say Wilbon should be starting then they are saying the coaching staff doesn't know what they are doing.
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THAT is exactly my point. Neither Wilbon or Newby has impressed me all that much with how hard they hit holes but the coaches watch these guys every single day in practice and have plenty of video to evaluate and they feel that Newby is clearly their best option. I think it is illogical to question their evaluation based on what I've seen in games. Hopefully we get the game in hand early and Wilbon and the other backups get lots of carries. That would be a best case scenario.
 
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You dont see on film that Newby is extremely fast? Are you watching in slow motion?
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Actually no, I don't.. Taylor Martinez was fast, Newby not so much. He doesn't look slow, but that's not really his issue anyway. I mean what good is your speed if you are tentative hitting the hole? It's almost like he doesn't have the vision or confidence or both. There are too many times when even the fans see it unfold right in front of you and it's like the kid doesn't see where to go and he is late to the hole and gets tackled easily. I think he's in there because he can pass block decently. Maybe he is a good practice player. I don't know. I'm just not impressed.
 
Wilbon will be a big part of the offense once the conference season begins. After years of Tim Beck, its a foriegn concept I know. But Riley and Landsdorf have actually held a lot of things back. Secondly, Wilbon is struggling a bit with pass protection. Terrell and Cross have been much better. As for Newby, he's a one cut and go running back. Riley prefers those types of runners in this system. He's not great in traffic, but the kid is a dynamic open field runner. Ideally, this offense is built to catch defenses over pursuing or napping so a back like Newby can rack up big chunks of yardage. Adam Taylor is actually the most complete back on the roster, but he's suffering from the Riley doghouse.
 
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Cornicator said:
Wilbon will be a big part of the offense once the conference season begins. After years of Tim Beck, its a foriegn concept I know. But Riley and Landsdorf have actually held a lot of things back. Secondly, Wilbon is struggling a bit with pass protection. Terrell and Cross have been much better. As for Newby, he's a one cut and go running back. Riley prefers those types of runners in this system. He's not great in traffic, but the kid is a dynamic open field runner. Ideally, this offense is built to catch defenses over pursuing or napping so a back like Newby can rack up big chunks of yardage. Adam Taylor is actually the most complete back on the roster, but he's suffering from the Riley doghouse.
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Thanks for the info Corn. Not sure where you get some of it, but you're always spot on. Hopefully Taylor can turn things around because I'm afraid we'll need all four guys by the time the season is over.. In addition to his speed, Newby's hands really impressed me with a couple of the catches he's had.
 
So now we are holding things back? That makes sense. You are 1-2 and you are waiting to really explode. And you would know this how?

Every coach makes weekly adjustments and adds additional plays as the season goes on but I wouldnt call it holding things back.
 
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