The Breaking Point

[SuperBigFan]

Um no that's not all he did. If you're going to trash the fans, let alone the fans at Nebraska who have a lemming like faith, you better not be getting embarrassed on the field like Bo's teams and better be winning titles.

You know what Dan Hawkins said about the Buffalo fans after their being twice an ass on game day throwing trash on the field, booing, spitting etc etc...? He said something to the effect of "We have vivacious fans" That's how you talk about your team's fans.

Bo should stick to coordinating and avoid the mic.

All the coaches trash the fans, they hate us, we annoy them. Stop acting like you don't know that.

Coaches work in customer service, people in that line of work hate the customers. Coaches hate us.

But here is the key, don't care that they hate you, they are not your friend anymore than the person you call to get your cable bill lowered is your friend. All you care about is the end result.

Wanna guess what Dan said about the CU fans in private?

- Why don't they come to the games?
- What a bunch of ****ing hippie stoners
- **** these rich kids from cali
- I hate these fans

 

[Sinomatic]

All the coaches trash the fans, they hate us, we annoy them. Stop acting like you don't know that.

Coaches work in customer service, people in that line of work hate the customers. Coaches hate us.

But here is the key, don't care that they hate you, they are not your friend anymore than the person you call to get your cable bill lowered is your friend. All you care about is the end result.

Wanna guess what Dan said about the CU fans in private?

- Why don't they come to the games?
- What a bunch of ****ing hippie stoners
- **** these rich kids from cali
- I hate these fans

Well...I do care.

When Bo wins... a ...championship as HC maybe....maybe I'll give a seconds thought about how that could have been at Nebraska....

.....but then I'll have to consider the time between his firing and the date of this 🏆. ...and probably come to the conclusion that that would have been an insane, some might say, amount of time to have had to wait for that ship.

Probably never going to convince me it was a bad idea to cut ties with BP.

 

[bigboxes]

Osborne: Never. I just viewed him as an honorable man who had great character. That and won a lot of football games.
Solich: 2003. He just couldn't win without Osborne's recruits. Got blown out against the good teams.
Callahan: 2007. I wanted it to work. Loved porkchop and Zac. Cally went all in on Keller. Didn't get to Gabby.
Pelini: 2012. Wisconsin scores again. Sure the audio tapes. Sure the hotel basement. Couldn't win without Cally's recruits.
Riley: 2016. I didn't know what to think. Pelini had to be excised. But you have to win at Nebraska.
Frost: 2021? I want him to succeed, but .375? It's my "Prove me wrong" year for Scott Frost.

 

[Husker_AMG63]

I would say, however, that O'Brien did some good things with the Texans, including winning four division titles.

HELL NO to Bill O'Brien! We need a coach who is a head coach right now or who didn't get fired in his last stop as a coach. No more Bill Callahan's!!

O'Brien coaches from 2012 to 2013, won like 8 games one year and people acting like he did something. Hell Bo Pelini kicked his ass. The coach who followed had like 60 scholarship players and kept that program afloat when Billy boy jumped ship!!

 

[Husker_AMG63]

Osborne: Never. I just viewed him as an honorable man who had great character. That and won a lot of football games.
Solich: 2003. He just couldn't win without Osborne's recruits. Got blown out against the good teams.
Callahan: 2008. I wanted it to work. Loved porkchop and Zac. Cally went all in on Keller. Didn't get to Gabby.
Pelini: 2012. Wisconsin scores again. Sure the audio tapes. Sure the hotel basement. Couldn't win without Cally's recruits.
Riley: 2016. I didn't know what think. Pelini had to be excised. But you have to win at Nebraska.
Frost: 2021? I want him to succeed, but .375? It's my "Prove me wrong" year for Scott Frost.

Bo couldn't win what without Callahan's recruits??! He went 9-3 his last year....STOP with the REVISIONIST history! Let me guess...he has 8th year Callahan recruits right??!

Hell Callahan couldn't Win with Callahan's recruits cuz he sucked and his players hated his ass. Now we have a coach who hasnt got better at winning in 4 years and loses to everybody in the conference, never beat a ranked team and has the2nd worst win percentage in the last 4 years against Power 5 teams and FANatics still not sure if he should be fired, but we're sure winning coaches should be canned!

 

[oldjar07]

Callahan: 2004. Was a really stupid hire.
Pelini: 2014. Had nothing to do with the fans comment, thought the outrage over that was stupid and overblown. However if I knew Riley would be his successor, don't think he should have been fired.
Riley: 2015. Another really stupid hire, and I never really supported him.
Frost: 2020. I saw problems right away with the coaching staff. It was in his third year where I realized Frost was the bigger problem than his staff.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

HELL NO to Bill O'Brien! We need a coach who is a head coach right now or who didn't get fired in his last stop as a coach. No more Bill Callahan's!!

O'Brien coaches from 2012 to 2013, won like 8 games one year and people acting like he did something. Hell Bo Pelini kicked his ass. The coach who followed had like 60 scholarship players and kept that program afloat when Billy boy jumped ship!!

Bo did not kick O’Brien’s ass. The games were very close

 

[bigboxes]

Bo couldn't win what without Callahan's recruits??! He went 9-3 his last year....STOP with the REVISIONIST history! Let me guess...he has 8th year Callahan recruits right??!

Hell Callahan couldn't Win with Callahan's recruits cuz he sucked and his players hated his ass. Now we have a coach who hasnt got better at winning in 4 years and loses to everybody in the conference, never beat a ranked team and has the2nd worst win percentage in the last 4 years against Power 5 teams and FANatics still not sure if he should be fired, but we're sure winning coaches should be canned!

The goal (at NU) was to win championships. At least it used to be. It's amazing that it now means breaking .500. Bo couldn't get past his incompetent self. His best teams were made up of Callahan recruits. Once that dried up, he didn't look like much the defensive guru. Getting boatraced with any team with a pulse. At least with Callahan you had hope. With Bo, you knew you weren't ever going to the next level. Unless you were happy with a whale trophy... Bo sucked. Defensive genius? Hahahahaha! Glad that douchebag is gone.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Bo couldn't win what without Callahan's recruits??! He went 9-3 his last year....STOP with the REVISIONIST history! Let me guess...he has 8th year Callahan recruits right??!

Hell Callahan couldn't Win with Callahan's recruits cuz he sucked and his players hated his ass. Now we have a coach who hasnt got better at winning in 4 years and loses to everybody in the conference, never beat a ranked team and has the2nd worst win percentage in the last 4 years against Power 5 teams and FANatics still not sure if he should be fired, but we're sure winning coaches should be canned!

Dude, I am with you 100%.

The crazy fans used the "Bo can't win with his recruits" bit, but, he literally won the same amount each time. No matter who was on the team.

Was Bo going to win a NC here? Nope. I doubt it.
Was he going to keep NU in contention to finish 1/2 in the division each year, yep, his record at NU shows us that is the case.

 

[HuskerAlum92]

From the OP said regarding Frost:
I'm almost there. Lose the next two, and let's move on.

What I think he means:
I'm almost there. Lose the next two, and let's move the goalposts.

 

[9and4]

From the OP said regarding Frost:
I'm almost there. Lose the next two, and let's move on.

What I think he means:
I'm almost there. Lose the next two, and let's move the goalposts.

Nope, though I could have been clearer.

My point (as if it matters in any way): If he loses the next two, Trev should act immediately, and not risk having Frost win the last two (highly unlikely), thus creating sympathy and hope that he's getting better as a head coach.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Nope, though I could have been clearer.

My point (as if it matters in any way): If he loses the next two, Trev should act immediately, and not risk having Frost win the last two (highly unlikely), thus creating sympathy and hope that he's getting better as a head coach.

There is some truth to this.

The fans want Frost to be "the guy" so badly that even finishing the season with 1 more win, but that win being over OSU or Iowa, there is a chance that the pro-Frosters make enough noise that TA keeps him.

 

[scarletred]

Osborne- Never considered it.
Solich- Losing to Mizzou, texass, and K-State in blowouts made me consider it but felt he deserved another year.
Callahan- back to back blow outs at home against Oklahoma St and AtM.
Pelini - Blow out loss to Wisconsin in Madison in the snow..
Frost- Wanted to give him every opportunity but every close loss since the Illinois game I get less optimistic about the SF era and I think it maybe time to turn the page..

 

[The_Man_Behind_The_Man]

When did any of you hit a breaking point with a head football coach at Nebraska?

Tom Osborne
I have to admit that at the end of the 1990 season, after a 15-point loss to CU, a 35-point loss to OU and a 24-point loss to GT, I secretly hoped that Osborne would step down, though I knew he had earned the right to call his own shot after 18 years as coach. I was wrong. I was very, very wrong.

Frank Solich
I read about the rumors that Pederson might fire Solich, but I didn't think it was serious until the LJS broke the news before the CU game. In other words, I never reached that breaking point with Frank.

Bill Callahan
76-39.

Bo Pelini
"'**** you, fans. **** all of you.' **** 'em." "Our crowd. What a bunch of ****ing fair-weather ****ing—they can all kiss my ass out the ****ing door. 'Cause the day is ****ing coming now. We'll see what they can do when I'm ****ing gone. I'm so ****ing pissed off." Was Bo, in his inimitable toxic way, right? The story broke in 2013, so I spent more than a year waiting for the inevitable.

Mike Riley
That 33-point loss at Minnesota, which followed an OT loss to Northwestern at home. We were 4-6 with games left @PSU and at home vs. Iowa. It was clear the team had surrendered.

Scott Frost
I'm almost there. Lose the next two, and let's move on. The tough call would be a 5-7 finish with victories over two ranked teams. But is that really progress? Might be good enough.

Osborne: Young when I watched him go for two against Miami for the win rather than tie. Remember being so impressed with the near win as big underdogs against Florida State in the 1994 Orange Bowl. A loss never felt so good because things were changing! The thought never crossed my mind that he would or should ever get fired even though many said he could never win the big one.

Solich: 2003 losing bad 38-9 at home against K-State. No question it was the correct decision to fire him.

Callahan: 2007 Losing badly to Oklahoma State. It was 38-0 at Halftime. The team gave up on him and so did the fans. Deservedly fired.

Pelini: 2012 Losing badly to Wisconsin in the BIG-10 Championship. Wisconsin was in that game not because they were a great team but because Ohio State and Penn State ineligible for conference championship game and post-season bowl games due to NCAA sanctions. Also deservedly fired.

Mike Riley: 2017 Loss to North Illinois. 2017 Blowout loss to Ohio State. Just not physical teams under Riley. Also deservedly fired.

Frost: 2021 Illinois and Minnesota performances are inexplicable. Ask me my thoughts at end of season.

 

[dsbigred1]

When did any of you hit a breaking point with a head football coach at Nebraska?

Tom Osborne
I have to admit that at the end of the 1990 season, after a 15-point loss to CU, a 35-point loss to OU and a 24-point loss to GT, I secretly hoped that Osborne would step down, though I knew he had earned the right to call his own shot after 18 years as coach. I was wrong. I was very, very wrong.

Frank Solich
I read about the rumors that Pederson might fire Solich, but I didn't think it was serious until the LJS broke the news before the CU game. In other words, I never reached that breaking point with Frank.

Bill Callahan
76-39.

Bo Pelini
"'**** you, fans. **** all of you.' **** 'em." "Our crowd. What a bunch of ****ing fair-weather ****ing—they can all kiss my ass out the ****ing door. 'Cause the day is ****ing coming now. We'll see what they can do when I'm ****ing gone. I'm so ****ing pissed off." Was Bo, in his inimitable toxic way, right? The story broke in 2013, so I spent more than a year waiting for the inevitable.

Mike Riley
That 33-point loss at Minnesota, which followed an OT loss to Northwestern at home. We were 4-6 with games left @PSU and at home vs. Iowa. It was clear the team had surrendered.

Scott Frost
I'm almost there. Lose the next two, and let's move on. The tough call would be a 5-7 finish with victories over two ranked teams. But is that really progress? Might be good enough.

TO-never… was 7 in 1990
Solich- 2002
Pelini- B1G Champ game vs WI
Riley- Never fully on board
Frost- CO year 2. Can’t say “No fear of Failure” constantly and then coach like a frightened turtle. That’s when I believed he likely would fail.

 

[Husker_AMG63]

The goal (at NU) was to win championships. At least it used to be. It's amazing that it now means breaking .500. Bo couldn't get past his incompetent self. His best teams were made up of Callahan recruits. Once that dried up, he didn't look like much the defensive guru. Getting boatraced with any team with a pulse. At least with Callahan you had hope. With Bo, you knew you weren't ever going to the next level. Unless you were happy with a whale trophy... Bo sucked. Defensive genius? Hahahahaha! Glad that douchebag is gone.

The bitterness a few of you have on here towards the last GOOD COACH we had in Lincoln is downright ridiculous. With Callahan you had HOPE???! How??!!

Callahan got blew out repeatedly by teams like Kansas, Texas Tech and others. Callahan was the first coach in 50 years to go below 500 and miss a bowl! Gonlook at the scores of his games for 4 years. I could post that embarrassing crap but I won't because logical Husker fans known he was trash!

Then you say it's all about Championships. We were alot closer to Championships with 9-10 win teams than 3-5 win teams. You don't go from 4 wins to Big Ten Title games....there is a big gap!

As I've said over and over, if you lived in a different part of the country with people of different fan bases and you will realize how people laugh at us for firing Bo and dealing with this BS some of y'all call PROGRESS!

WE ARE A JOKE..

 

[SuperBigFan]

The bitterness a few of you have on here towards the last GOOD COACH we had in Lincoln is downright ridiculous. With Callahan you had HOPE???! How??!!

Callahan got blew out repeatedly by teams like Kansas, Texas Tech and others. Callahan was the first coach in 50 years to go below 500 and miss a bowl! Gonlook at the scores of his games for 4 years. I could post that embarrassing crap but I won't because logical Husker fans known he was trash!

Then you say it's all about Championships. We were alot closer to Championships with 9-10 win teams than 3-5 win teams. You don't go from 4 wins to Big Ten Title games....there is a big gap!

As I've said over and over, if you lived in a different part of the country with people of different fan bases and you will realize how people laugh at us for firing Bo and dealing with this BS some of y'all call PROGRESS!

WE ARE A JOKE..

I think people that hate Bo have a hard time admitting that 9 and 10 win seasons are something you need to have in order to get to 11 win seasons. So they magically discount his wins.

Bo would have this team sitting at two losses right now and that would be worst case.

 

[bigboxes]

The bitterness a few of you have on here towards the last GOOD COACH we had in Lincoln is downright ridiculous. With Callahan you had HOPE???! How??!!

Callahan got blew out repeatedly by teams like Kansas, Texas Tech and others. Callahan was the first coach in 50 years to go below 500 and miss a bowl! Gonlook at the scores of his games for 4 years. I could post that embarrassing crap but I won't because logical Husker fans known he was trash!

Then you say it's all about Championships. We were alot closer to Championships with 9-10 win teams than 3-5 win teams. You don't go from 4 wins to Big Ten Title games....there is a big gap!

As I've said over and over, if you lived in a different part of the country with people of different fan bases and you will realize how people laugh at us for firing Bo and dealing with this BS some of y'all call PROGRESS!

WE ARE A JOKE..

Pelini was an awful coach and an awful person. Don't be a revisionist and paint him in some favorable light. What has Bo done since? *crickets*

 

[SuperBigFan]

Pelini was an awful coach and an awful person. Don't be a revisionist and paint him in some favorable light. What has Bo done since? *crickets*

Made a ton of money and got to retire at like 55 years old. Basically the dream that most of us would love to have come true?

Remember, he did not hate YOU, he probably would like you, a lot. He hate US, there is a huge difference.

I know a lot of Husker fans have this romanticized idea that the NU coach should not even be able to believe that they are the coach of the Huskers, that they are so in awe of the chance that they should be bowing to the fans but that just is not the case.

Bo, is pretty much just like the rest of us. A pretty normal dude. The big difference is when we get pissed about the game we can post it here, under a fake name.

 

[Mystery Big Red Man]

Bo did not kick O’Brien’s ass. The games were very close

With Bill O'Brien, you know you are going to have a mean, mentally tough team, a fair college track record (fantastic if you look at the shit storm he walked into and sanctions) and the ability to talk about NFL chances as he has been there.

A very interesting coaching prospect that is growing on me.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

With Bill O'Brien, you know you are going to have a mean, mentally tough team, a fair college track record (fantastic if you look at the shit storm he walked into and sanctions) and the ability to talk about NFL chances as he has been there.

A very interesting coaching prospect that is growing on me.

People need to understand that PSU and the whole fan base in PA was filled with rage and hostility toward the NCAA for the sanctions and toward the PSU admins for firing Paterno. Paterno was dead by then, but the resentment lingered. So you are correct… man oh man it was a shit storm. Scholarships cut in half. No bowl games. Recruiting trips cut in half. Transfers were a problem too. But more than that, O’Brien was following in the footsteps of a coach who was the equivalent here in PA of Devaney and Osborne rolled into one. What O’Brien accomplished here was amazing.

 

[Mystery Big Red Man]

People need to understand that PSU and the whole fan base in PA was filled with rage and hostility toward the NCAA for the sanctions and toward the PSU admins for firing Paterno. Paterno was dead by then, but the resentment lingered. So you are correct… man oh man it was a shit storm. Scholarships cut in half. No bowl games. Recruiting trips cut in half. Transfers were a problem too. But more than that, O’Brien was following in the footsteps of a coach who was the equivalent here in PA of Devaney and Osborne rolled into one. What O’Brien accomplished here was amazing.

He was snatched up in 2 years for an NFL coaching job.

I think he did have some resentment towards admin and boosters, to what extent I don't know. I think Trev would work well with him.

I think he is a realistic option that I would be happy with. I don't think the NFL would come calling so if he is successful I bet we can get some mileage out if him.

Good call. I never thought of him until you mentioned it.

PS. I think he could take Bo in a fight too. It'd be close though.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

He was snatched up in 2 years for an NFL coaching job.

I think he did have some resentment towards admin and boosters, to what extent I don't know. I think Trev would work well with him.

I think he is a realistic option that I would be happy with. I don't think the NFL would come calling so if he is successful I bet we can get some mileage out if him.

Good call. I never thought of him until you mentioned it.

PS. I think he could take Bo in a fight too. It'd be close though.

I don’t know. Bo probably fights dirty

 

[9and4]

PS. I think he could take Bo in a fight too. It'd be close though.

Two questions: Would Bo have a snapback hat at his disposal? Does landing F bombs count the same as landing punches?

 

[Sinomatic]

I don’t know. Bo probably fights dirty

Well he'd pee his pants first and who wants to fight a guy covered in piss?

 

[Husker_AMG63]

Pelini was an awful coach and an awful person. Don't be a revisionist and paint him in some favorable light. What has Bo done since? *crickets*

I dont give a damn bout what a player or coach does what he leaves my teams. I loved LeBron with the Heat, don't give a sh!t bout him now! I loved winning games when Bo was here and agonized over losses because those GAMES MATTERED! I literally would shut down my weekend after a defeat then.

Now with this crap show that y'all respect the games don't matter. We can lose a game now and my weekend is still great. We are playing with the hope of going to bowl for the first time in 6 years. Like they say this generation is SOFT, can't take criticism and all about participation trophies!

Wussies with a P.....

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

With Bill O'Brien, you know you are going to have a mean, mentally tough team, a fair college track record (fantastic if you look at the shit storm he walked into and sanctions) and the ability to talk about NFL chances as he has been there.

A very interesting coaching prospect that is growing on me.

Saban is not in love with O'Brien's play calling in the red zone. Made it clear after the loss to A & M. (Surprise).

Just last weekend, when Bama was in the red zone and O'Brien called another pass play, Saban called time out, and Bama ran the ball.

No doubt Saban is supremely committed to winning. I think he and O'Brien have had, or will have, a meeting of the minds shortly.

 

[SLOHusker]

Tom Osborne: never happened.
Frank Solich: 2002 season and continually getting passed by recruits. The overall trajectory of the program was downhill while OU, etc were riding high with new coaches in a short period of time. I was among those who was ready to move on after 2003 despite the apparent record.
Bill Callahan:. I was actually more reluctant than everyone else and saw a monster recruiting class coming if he stayed on. I really feel the plug was pulled too early and he should have been given a year to fix the defense. The Colorado game was effectively the end for everyone.
Bo Pelini: Things had trended steadily downward following 2010's 5-0 start. The end was the 2013 Iowa game. His temper during the game and coaching miscues literally cost the game. I was surprised he wasn't fired after that game. 2014 seemed like a waste of everyone's time.
Mike Riley: Northern Illinois 2017. Team just got thoroughly destroyed by a team not in Power 5 conference. Nothing in the program looked to be going well. Riley did not appear to really be invested in more than cashing a check.
Scott Frost: 2021 Illinois and reaffirmed by 2021 Minnesota. Too many stupid mistakes, inability to execute in key moments, overall state of program.

 

[SLOHusker]

Made a ton of money and got to retire at like 55 years old. Basically the dream that most of us would love to have come true?

Remember, he did not hate YOU, he probably would like you, a lot. He hate US, there is a huge difference.

I know a lot of Husker fans have this romanticized idea that the NU coach should not even be able to believe that they are the coach of the Huskers, that they are so in awe of the chance that they should be bowing to the fans but that just is not the case.

Bo, is pretty much just like the rest of us. A pretty normal dude. The big difference is when we get pissed about the game we can post it here, under a fake name.

The guy saw himself as a genius and refused to admit his own failings enough to work on improvements as a coach. I hated Pelini really from day 1 but accepted him and rooted for NU under him. I could not stand both brothers and saw them as a growing liability on and off the field. Had we kept Pelini in 2015 recruiting would have shriveled up to nothing. High school players and parents were not unaware of his reputation by then.
People also forget he was secretly trying to get the Miami job in 2010. He was never invested in NU as much as the fans wanted to believe. This was a stepping stone job for him. He just never got to where he believed he would get because things unraveled under him because of his attitude and arrogance.

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

The goal (at NU) was to win championships. At least it used to be. It's amazing that it now means breaking .500. Bo couldn't get past his incompetent self. His best teams were made up of Callahan recruits. Once that dried up, he didn't look like much the defensive guru. Getting boatraced with any team with a pulse. At least with Callahan you had hope. With Bo, you knew you weren't ever going to the next level. Unless you were happy with a whale trophy... Bo sucked. Defensive genius? Hahahahaha! Glad that douchebag is gone.

I was a freshman in 07, went to all the games, the only hope I had each week was hoping Callahan got fired. Those games were awful except for the KSU game when joe g was unleashed

 

[drubendall]

Wake Forest is going to its 6th consecutive bowl game. Yeah, we have to fire Frost. We're truly underestimating how bad he is at his job

 

[leodisflowers]

Wake Forest is going to its 6th consecutive bowl game. Yeah, we have to fire Frost. We're truly underestimating how bad he is at his job

I agree, but if NU was in the ACC we'd probably be at Clemson's level. That league is bad.

 

[oldjar07]

The guy saw himself as a genius and refused to admit his own failings enough to work on improvements as a coach. I hated Pelini really from day 1 but accepted him and rooted for NU under him. I could not stand both brothers and saw them as a growing liability on and off the field. Had we kept Pelini in 2015 recruiting would have shriveled up to nothing. High school players and parents were not unaware of his reputation by then.
People also forget he was secretly trying to get the Miami job in 2010. He was never invested in NU as much as the fans wanted to believe. This was a stepping stone job for him. He just never got to where he believed he would get because things unraveled under him because of his attitude and arrogance.

2014 was one of Pelini's best classes. If he actually had the chance to coach them instead of Riley, I think he would have done just fine with them. There was one class in there that wasn't very good, but most of his classes were solid. Absolutely no evidence recruiting would have shriveled to nothing under Pelini as you claim.

 

[pharvey0829]

Osborne- Never considered it.
Solich- Losing to Mizzou, texass, and K-State in blowouts made me consider it but felt he deserved another year.
Callahan- back to back blow outs at home against Oklahoma St and AtM.
Pelini - Blow out loss to Wisconsin in Madison in the snow..
Frost- Wanted to give him every opportunity but every close loss since the Illinois game I get less optimistic about the SF era and I think it maybe time to turn the page..

Pelini also got blown out by Wisconsin in the 2012 B1G championship game too.