you watch these tourney games and it's apparent that we arent even close.
State of Nebraska Men's Basketball
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It's the coach's job to instill a culture of accountability whereby individuals don't act in ways that are detrimental to the team ... That is leadership 101 .... Coaches are being paid millions of dollars to lead .... These arguments that player X or Y didn't buy in and therefore the team suffered is a strong indictment of the leadership qualities of the head coach and if anything push the debate towards needing a change
I would think that after the investment the university put toward basketball a reasonable expectation after 5 years would consist of progression to the point where the program is NIT quality. We are no closer to this metric now than we were when Miles took over.
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The hoops program is in such a sorry state that we're longing for NIT berths. The NIT represents failure. The expectation at Nebraska should to be a bubble team at worst every year. Your worst years, you miss and land in the NIT. Your best years you're using the conference tournament to improve your seed in the NCAA tournament.
It's sad when you look at Nebraska's NIT appearances vs Big 10/12 teams. It is not a good thing to be leading that list.
I am not longing for NIT berths. My point is that the natural progression of the program when Miles took over should be the following
current state (crap) ----> NIT quality ----> bubble teams (NIT/NCAA) -----> NCAA
I think the ADs job after 5 years is to ask themselves have we made any progress on this continuum? The answer is no ...we remain in the crap category
Lets see now, Illinois hires Brad Underwood for $3M per year for 6 years, $18M, Dana Altman leaves Creighton for Oregon for $2M per year for 6 years, $12M. (What has Altman done at Oregon?) Miles is currently making $2M per year. With the additional revenue from the BTN coming in next year, only 2 years left owing Miles at $2M per year, Nebraska could like Illinois make a run at an experienced coach for like $3.5M per year for 5 or 6 years. If a school is going to pay top money they need to get someone with a resume. I do agree that schools haven't sometimes been successful hiring experienced coaches (Kentucky, Texas Tech, etc. . ) But look at TCU with Jamie Dixon this season with an experienced big time coach coming in. Additionally, the culture needs to change with the Men's basketball coach and the football coach both reporting directly to the AD. Basketball needs to be viewed as an equal and not a step child reporting to an Associate AD.
"What has Altman done at Oregon"
Oregon has won at least one NCAA game in five straight years.
With one elite 8, one sweet 16 and 2 NCAA 3rd round games.
Oregon has won at least one NCAA game in five straight years.
With one elite 8, one sweet 16 and 2 NCAA 3rd round games.
Exactly...such a ridiculous question.
The Nebraska Athletic Department and fan base would do back flips with those kind of results.
How about Tyrone Leu ? He seems like a decent coach who could probably get some star talent in very quickly
Lue, but that's OK.. That a dream offer on Nebraska fan base part..
There are a lot of very good coach's out there.
Regardless of his so called "accomplishments" at the pro level...what has he done on the college level? That is what Nebraska fans will ask.
You leave out the fact that many consider Illinois one of the two best jobs in the B1G due to their basketball tradition and recruiting base. You also leave out the fact that NU has been a coaching career killer for decades now. NU is where basketball coaches go to die. We apparently put out feelers and there was NO interest. I'm not sure what Altman is making now, but I suspect it is more than his original contract or it will be shortly.
Dana Altman will likely never leave Oregon, having said that If I'm Eichorst I'm backing up a money truck to his house yesterday and hoping he bites. If he doesn't which is almost certain, Then go with an up and comer in the NBA like ISU did with Hoiberg. They were a shit show with McDermott as HC and all it took was a guy like Hoiberg to completely change the culture.Exactly...such a ridiculous question.
The Nebraska Athletic Department and fan base would do back flips with those kind of results.
Hey now - unsubstantiated rumors about players transferring are frowned upon here, because they are very bad for recruiting.
But unsubstantiated rumors about NU wanting to hire a new coach but absolutely nobody would take the job - those are fair game.
South Carolina went 10-21 the year before Frank Martin arrived and hadn't won an NCAA tourney game since 1973. Five years later, they are going to the Sweet 16. What a difference coaching makes.
Another slap in the face to K-State. They lose to Cincinnati on Friday, former assistant and fan favorite Brad Underwood is hired by Illinois on Saturday, and FHC Frank Martin takes South Carolina to the Sweet 16 for the first time in school history.
Horrible weekend for the Wildcats.
At least they were in the tournament...
Fans here couldn't handle Frank Martin...he's way to intense and non-goofy.
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Fans here couldn't handle Frank Martin...he's way to intense and non-goofy.
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PG Glynn Watson SG Evan Taylor SF Jack McVeigh PF Ed Morrow C Jordy Tshimanga with Jacobson 6th man, plus , Isaiah Roby, Anton Gill and James Palmer ready to step in to add scoring punch. Or Watson, Gill/Palmer, Morrow, Jacobson, Tshimanga to go big. Or Watson, Gill/Palmer, Roby, Morrow, Jacobson for a higher octane line up. On a positive note, it does seem like there are pieces here to work with.
Perhaps early in the year, but they were not on the court together for one single second after Morrow returned from his ankle injury. I found this extremely odd, especially when it became clear that the Huskers were essentially playing for next year.
But late in the season, what difference did it make if Tschimanga fouled out? How would that be different than just sitting him down voluntarily for the last 15 minutes of the game?
That's a different question.
The problem with both of them on the floor at the same time is that it clogs the middle. Neither Jordy or Morrow have much of an offensive game at this time, Morrow's consists of offensive boards and layups. Jordy has 3 low post moves. Neither has an effect 10 foot out out game, so their defenders don't have to respect them shooting a jumper. With 4 guys under the basket, offensive rebounds are tougher, that makes them less effective. Even if one of them clears the lane, his defender won't, then it's 2 on 1 on the glass.
So how does any of this change when you pair Tschimanga or Morrow with Jacobson? Despite his fan club's contention that Jacobson has a good mid-range game, his jump shots go in about 30% of the time and opponents invite him to shoot. So while I agree with you about the shortcomings noted above, I don't see how playing Morrow and Tschimanga together is any different than playing one of them with Jacobson - for the present, anyway. The reason I would like to see them play at the same time is they at least appear to have some upside potential.
I don't have Jacobson's shot chart in front of me, but I would bet his 10-12 foot game is better than either Jordy or Ed. Not that his is great, but even at 40% from 2pt range he would keep defenses more honest than the other 2.
Hoops-math has Jacobson at 36% on 2-pt jump shots and 17% from 3 pt range. Tschimanga was 35% on 2 pt jumpers and Morrow was 30% - thankfully, neither of them attempted a 3-pointer. Morrow's FG percentage at the rim was 65%, compared to 62% for Tschimanga and 55% for Jacobson.
Trust me, I'm not suggesting that the Huskers would have won more games with Tschimanga and Morrow playing together - I just don't see a downside compared to the other options.
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Who is going to coach those pieces?? We currently have a poor offence with no real shooters. On the bright we have the Worst 3pt defense ever invented!!!! Give the football head coach some credit he will let his buddy go if it improves the team. Miles is staying so he needs to make asst. coaching changes or we end next year 13 an 17 an great job it is an improvement..... ARG
those are all great stats but that doesn't change the fact that Morrow and Jordy are both low post players. The fact that Jacobson is a threat to shoot the ball outside of 5 feet is the reason to me that he played more than Jordy. It's like when you pinch hit for a pitcher in baseball. Even if you bring to the plate a batter with a .200 average, the defense and the pitcher still respect their hitting ability more tham that of the pitcher.
Watched KU run the same offense Miles does. It's funny how well that offense works against Michigan State when a team executes it properly and puts good shooters on the court. And it's just one of several things Self runs whereas its almost the only thing Miles runs.
Playing Evan Taylor clogs the middle as well. There's a reason certain players find themselves wide open when we get to conference play.
So, are Boehm and Molinari keeping their jobs? Or are we going to keep everything the same and just hope for different results next year?
NU probably put feelers out for those jobs and nobody else was interested.
Or maybe not. But if we say it here enough times it will kinda sorta become true - and that's reason enough for them to stay.
I cannot disagree with you more. Building up a program slowly is exactly what the Huskers have been doing for the last 40-50 years. How has that worked out. How many times has Nebraska been in the NCAA tournament? The program needs a dynamic leader. It probably is going to require not only a dynamic coach, but a dynamic AD as well.
