So is everyone off the "Lee going pro" bandwagon?
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I think it's a possibility but I'm not sure it's a probability. Did many people have Trubisky going #2 in the 2017 draft this time last year? I bet Trubisky didn't even call that.
Lee's a 5th year SR this year, so if he looks great this season I don't think he needs to come back to mature, if he has that opportunity
Lee's a 5th year SR this year, so if he looks great this season I don't think he needs to come back to mature, if he has that opportunity
Ill give it to the first half of first game. When most morons usually are ready to fire everyone and write off the season if we're not up by 50. Lee will either be the greatest or a failure. All in first half of first game. Remember that on his first pick or incomplete pass.
What do we know? He has great mechanics, footwork, etc. He has the physical tools. He has some past experience that has mixed results and enough variables to not draw solid conclusions.
He has to master the finer points of being a high level QB. Can he read defenses, can he adjust quickly (it is more than just reading the " check downs"), can he make all of the throws, can he lead the difficult drives when it is all on the line and time is running out, how will he handle adversity that will certainly come. What I hear in scrimmages causes concern with nearly always an interception. He is still learning but he is not a rookie for sure. Lots of questions and I am excited to see how he answers them
He has to master the finer points of being a high level QB. Can he read defenses, can he adjust quickly (it is more than just reading the " check downs"), can he make all of the throws, can he lead the difficult drives when it is all on the line and time is running out, how will he handle adversity that will certainly come. What I hear in scrimmages causes concern with nearly always an interception. He is still learning but he is not a rookie for sure. Lots of questions and I am excited to see how he answers them
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I don't expect too much from Tanner but with that said, I expect him to be a first round draft pick and NFL HOF
What have you heard that lead to this post? Assuming you heard something, or are you just trying to get people riled up?
And just wondering, how many were even on this bandwagon? I don't really remember a ton of people saying he was going pro. I do remember some saying if he has a good year he certainly might...
Ill give it to the first half of first game. When most morons usually are ready to fire everyone and write off the season if we're not up by 50. Lee will either be the greatest or a failure. All in first half of first game. Remember that on his first pick or incomplete pass.
Yep, they'll want to fire all of the coaches and go back to the option and say they "told us so" about how a pro style system cannot work in Lincoln Nebraska since Lincoln sometimes has wind, rain, sleet, and snow... unlike anywhere else in the country!
I am guessing the OP is talking about the INTs in fall camp and the defense doing well in practices maybe.
Also, maybe the fact that POB is having a hard time staying at the #2 QB position here in fall camp when he and Lee were supposedly neck and neck in the spring.
Correct, there was, in general, some talk that it is a possibility if he has a banner year when all the hype about Lee in the spring was being written and radioed about. That's about it that I recall.
Is he? I thought he was a RS Jr. this year, which would make him a 4th year senior.
Yes. He was a 2013 recruit and this will be his 5th year of college football. He technically should be a red shirt senior this year, but was given an extra year of eligibility.
Yes. He was a 2013 recruit and this will be his 5th year of college football. He technically should be a red shirt senior this year, but was given an extra year of eligibility.
I think you have to eat it when it's hot. I think he's going to get picked in the first 3 rounds, even if only as a developmental guy. Unless something unexpected happens this year, it's one and done. I expect Gebbia to be the starter next year.
I bet he is gone at the end of the year. Has all the tools that NFL guys drool over. Add that he'll put up good numbers and just don't see him cimg back. Everyone should hope he's a first rounder, because it's a pretty good indicator that he lit it up this year
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Yeah! To hell with Husker players that would do good for themselves and reflect well for the program, and its future. We don't like their kind round here!!!!
Why? If he has the measurables that the NFL wants he will go high. It has very little to do with winning lots of games or having amazing stats. Look at Trubisky (and frankly most high draft picks at qb). He doesn't rank in the top 10 in qb rating, yards/game, ypc, ypa. The only meaningful category where he was top 10 was completion percentage where he was 5th. Plus, North Carolina ended up 8-5.
I don't think Lee's performance this year is as important as some people think. If he can make all the throws, show some smarts on the tests, and perform well in the interviews, he will go high. We could end up 7-6 and he still could go in the first round.
I don't think Lee's performance this year is as important as some people think. If he can make all the throws, show some smarts on the tests, and perform well in the interviews, he will go high. We could end up 7-6 and he still could go in the first round.
I'm usually ready to fire everybody and promise to never watch Nebraska football again by half of the first game. But I'm not a moron. Just a person with an unnatural obsession with a game having an adrenaline rush. Win or lose by an hour after the game I return to being fairly rational.Ill give it to the first half of first game. When most morons usually are ready to fire everyone and write off the season if we're not up by 50. Lee will either be the greatest or a failure. All in first half of first game. Remember that on his first pick or incomplete pass.
I can't wait to actually see him take a snap, give a handoff, and throw a pass in a real game. Then I will worry about any "bandwagons".
Perhaps we should allow him to play in an actual game before we start purchasing tickets to the proceedings in Canton.
I think even with a very good year, with the way things look this year, it's unlikely. Tribisky took advantage of a pedestrian QB class, while next draft, appears to be far stronger for now. That changes everything.
I'm not a bears fan whatsoever, but speaking of Trubisky..... looked great last night.
I think he has a good season and turns pro. From the NFL prospective, conventional wisdom will be that a 6th year of college ball isn't probably going to make Lee a better prospect. In fact, sometimes age can work against you in the draft (especially in the NBA). If Lee has a good season, he'll turn pro and try to work himself up the draft charts. The huge thing working in Lee's favor is that he is playing in a pro style system and would be a draftable fit for pretty much every team in the league. But next year's draft is a good year for QBs so it's certainly possible that Lee turns pro and doesn't get drafted until Day two or three.
Wasn't too long ago that if you brought up TLee, you would hear "one and done", best QB according to this person, best QB according to that person. So why the about face?
The last greatest college QB ever, Ryan Leaf, went pro and never cracked 56% completion percentage in his college days. TLee hasn't played a game at NU, but I'd guess he'll go pro after this year.
The last greatest college QB ever, Ryan Leaf, went pro and never cracked 56% completion percentage in his college days. TLee hasn't played a game at NU, but I'd guess he'll go pro after this year.
No comparison yet with Leaf. Ryan Leaf lead his team to a Rose bowl.
Most people on here were just regurgitating stuff that pro scouts and QB coaches were saying and choosing to believe it. Nothing wrong with that.
Most people on here were just regurgitating stuff that pro scouts and QB coaches were saying and choosing to believe it. Nothing wrong with that.
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I agree with Tom.
The NFL is a meat factory. There's guys that make it on production and there's guys that make it on measurables. Some guys have both.
Lee might make it on measurables alone, even if he is a 7 win QB here.
Everyone's favorite coach in Gruden basically went on air and explained the NFL mindset..."I'm the greatest coach ever, this kid has the tools I just need to mold him".
The NFL is a meat factory. There's guys that make it on production and there's guys that make it on measurables. Some guys have both.
Lee might make it on measurables alone, even if he is a 7 win QB here.
Everyone's favorite coach in Gruden basically went on air and explained the NFL mindset..."I'm the greatest coach ever, this kid has the tools I just need to mold him".
I hear John Elway will be looking for a high round draft pick at QB for next year. You can do it, Tanner!
Exactly. I was just about to talk about how freaking Trubisky went #2 and now Chicago is gonna be QB Controversy City because Glennon turned in a 0.0 QBR and Trubisky played well last night.
The QB market in the NFL is so frothy right now that I'd believe just about any QB could go in the first round.
I may be brought back down to Earth after Game 1. I'm in a wait and see mode, like most of us. My hope is that he'll realize his potential that we have been reading about. I felt the same way about Keller. Why not have hope?
It's better than how I felt about Coach Pelini's teams. I knew that we had hit ceiling. I knew that TM would never lead us anywhere after other teams figured out how to defend him. I suppose that is how many on here felt about TA. The problem for TA was that he was recruited for one system that he was better suited for and ended in one where he was not.
Lee has all the attributes we want in a pro-style QB. We all know that Gebbia is our future. For the time being, Lee is mature, poised and confident. With Langsdorf, he's being groomed to go to the next level. By that, I mean upper level FBS.
Hope is fun. Why be all pessimistic before the season even starts? We'll first have to see if there's improvement in that O-line. That's where it all starts. Give Lee enough time and he's going to hit his targets. It's going to be a fun season, IMO.
POB ain't dead yet.I may be brought back down to Earth after Game 1. I'm in a wait and see mode, like most of us. My hope is that he'll realize his potential that we have been reading about. I felt the same way about Keller. Why not have hope?
It's better than how I felt about Coach Pelini's teams. I knew that we had hit ceiling. I knew that TM would never lead us anywhere after other teams figured out how to defend him. I suppose that is how many on here felt about TA. The problem for TA was that he was recruited for one system that he was better suited for and ended in one where he was not.
Lee has all the attributes we want in a pro-style QB. We all know that Gebbia is our future. For the time being, Lee is mature, poised and confident. With Langsdorf, he's being groomed to go to the next level. By that, I mean upper level FBS.
Hope is fun. Why be all pessimistic before the season even starts? We'll first have to see if there's improvement in that O-line. That's where it all starts. Give Lee enough time and he's going to hit his targets. It's going to be a fun season, IMO.
My concern for Lee is whether he'll have anyone decent to throw to by mid-season.
I'm not writing off POB. Injuries do happen. It's nice to have depth. We're going to have it at WR. Just not this year.
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Except I'm not of the opinion that Lee has to win the B1G to give him a shot somewhere.
Its amazing to me that fans in all fanbase think XYZ has to rock their world for them to a shot in the NFL.
Then I look at a program like Iowa, who has plenty of draft choices over the year, and don't generally win anything.
I wouldn't be very surprised if he gets hurt and misses most of the year or gets benched for poor performance. I also wouldn't be very surprised if he has a great year. But I would be totally shocked if he is a high NFL draft choice at the end of this year. He has done nothing on game days to justify such speculation.
You and Gruden are right about the mindset. Now, those measurables will obviously help a qb to be more than decent in the college game but I really don't think stats or wins mean a whole lot to NFL scouts.
All about potential. Phil Savage, who I'm guessing has more info than you, seems to think otherwise. It's not just stats and record...
He does say 2018 or 2019, but he won't be shocked if Lee is a high draft pick...
Gee, I am humbled by your putdown and will try to consult you in the future before making any more dumb posts. I didn't realize Phil Savage, whoever that is, had decided the matter.
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