We were not keeping TW for long regardless.and Pot Roast didn’t like Lincoln or Nebraska in general because of the Weather or social activities. Pot roast was likely leaving with White. As for the players this is the 2nd time Jamari jumped to the portal. How well did he like it here ? Williams left because of Pot Roast. Princewell was leaving regardless.EJ thinks the grass is greener somewhere else. He will find out it is always not the case. The rest were 105 cuts .
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Position assistants*. Your coordinators have to know how to coach. Satt wasn't good at either btw.
I see both sides of it. This team could've easily been a 9 win team this year with competent offensive coaching. Losing contributors off a 9 win team has a bit of a different feel. I'm not panicking or losing my mind though as I definitely feel like you do - they are replacement level players for the most part. There is a long road ahead this offseason in regards to player movement, I doubt we've seen the biggest shock yet.
I questioned Knighton’s recruiting ability previously. He doesn’t seem to have much ch in the pipeline.
NOOOOO!
You also have to put the Hula-Hoop on the ground so that these grown ass men with freaky talent can learn how to around around a circle and drop their hips! COME ON!
That is why those coaches get 6 figures, no one else could come up with such an amazing drill!
So far, all of the players that have left are replacement level players via the portal.
I have to post on this again, years ago, one of the guys I coached with DITCHED the Hula-Hoop (he was on the cutting edge of coaching) and went with two pvc pipes that formed an L...that way his rush ends could learn to take 3 quick hard steps straight up field AND THEN turn on a 90 degree angle to get to the QB.
****ing savage stuff. No chance we could have got a sack that year without that PVC L.
****ing savage stuff. No chance we could have got a sack that year without that PVC L.
I would imagine that the 5 DBs is something we'll still see a lot of. I think that's what they were able to reassure Jeremiah Jones on. He fits that kind of profile.....a guy that will be able to play inside the box quite a bit.
Depends some on when they would leave. It gets tougher to replace guys the later they take off.
I suppose he's replaceable, but I wouldn't want to try and replace Barney. Low odds of finding someone that performed at his leve,l with his potential.
Nothing against those players going into the portal but All Conference in what conference? We had the best player who was terrific game in and game out that we have had in the program the last few years and he could only make 3rd team.
All-conference honors don't tend to happen until players are upperclassmen. It's a bit of a political award as well in that a good player's production might drop off in the last year and still win it just based on reputation. Ty Robinson didn't win 3rd team until he was a 5th year senior. Nash never won anything besides honorable mention one time (although he should have made the team last year imo). If Nash and Ty didn't come back this year, it would have been a major loss for our defense. This idea that players need to be on the All-Conference team before counting as a major loss when they transfer out just doesn't fit with reality, especially when they are young players.
Don’t forget to be disciplined.. hold the edge and don’t let the back or QB out around you! Seen that happen way to much over last 25 years!
If I recall correctly, didn't Simpson leave because he didn't have an actual coaching position? He was a consultant or quality control? In effect, he was working as one of our best recruiters on a partial salary (by comparison). Yes, bring that guy back.
This is nebraska, winning the offseason and podium is more important than the actual games.
But we aren’t talking about Hutmacher or Robinson. We are talking about players entering the portal that were either being passed up by younger players or just average dudes that are replaceable. That replacement may come from the portal or it may come from within.
The underlying issue is the need to get to 105 though. If you have a player on the roster that can match the production that you lose in Butler or Gbyaor and that replacement is younger, you make a tough business decision to say thanks for the 4 years. Good luck at your next stop.
This is a home run hire in my book. Looks like we are once again well on our way to winning another off season! I am already sipping the koolaid myself again. I was lukewarm on Tony White. Some games our defense looked amazing and I loved the guy. Other games we looked lost and I doubted the guy. Lots of good coaches out there. I think we will be fine from a coaching standpoint and given the Holgorsen hire I think we will have better coaching across the board next year. GBR
Everyone is technically replaceable but there are at least 50-60 guys on the roster that I really wouldn't want to leave. So far, Emmitt Johnson is the only guy who really hurts. But yes, we could find someone who plays as well as he does. Maybe he's already on the roster.
Damn right. And that new DC better be a splash hire! Don't care about the fit. We need to be wowed!
Mills is that guy which is why it’s so important to keep Barney. Pretty dynamic duo setting up.
I'm not talking about Gbayor or Butler. I'm talking about Williams, Princewill, and Emmett. These are players that have only been here 2 years. Neither Ty Robinson nor Nash Hutmacher accomplished shit by year 2. They didn't start coming on until they were upperclassmen. It's not possible to tell what their ceiling actually is at this point, but the fact that the players in question got on the field at a young age and were making plays indicates that they are indeed very talented players.
If we had lost Ty or Nash after 2 years, people would be saying the same thing. No big deal, they hadn't accomplished anything. Well, that's because they hadn't had time to accomplish anything. But as they had come on starting year 3, they improved into the all-conference type players (and yes, Nash should have won it last year) we all say we want on the roster.
The Parker kid is the #6 RB per Rivals. He could be a factor next year.
Most of the guys who have left so far are easily in that top 50-60 players. Losing our 3 best pass rushers hurts at least as much as Emmett.
Our top 3 pass rushers all had deficiencies in their skill set and were losing snaps to a freshman. Hopefully we can find some depth there in the portal.
This.
It doesn’t matter what the DEs do. It’s about personnel. 5 DBs is either 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 or some variation of nickel
I think the question with him is whether he can run inside the tackles. He is very good at running outside though.
It’s crazy when you look at the recruiting profile of some of these running backs Nebraska has recruited over the years. It’s not as if in NU has been swimming in the mid three star pool and lower, which is what you would have thought given our running back production over the last decade. At least half of these kids have drawn a national ranking as a running back, top 20, top 10 that sort of thing. It’s mind boggling to me that not one of these backs really hit as a high producer.
And if we lost Hutmacher and Robinson after 2 years and/ or if both were losing playing time to younger players I would definitely say the same thing. Princewell had off the field issues didn’t play near the snaps as he did as a freshman and by the end of the year McGahee was taking snaps away. Williams is/was a light DL that can’t seal the edge and is weak against the run. Emmett Johnson was/is a lightly recruited RB that showed well against in 3 games with a new OC. Sounds like he has issues with the former OC. Now instead of sticking around and battling for continued playing time he took his ball and went home. Bye!!!!
Again I say if those are 3 of the best 50 players on the team, then we have bigger talent issues than believed and it needs to be addressed by bringing in better talent, not by keeping 3rd string talent because they might get better in 2 more years.
Now this is just getting stupid. Those 3 are easily top 50, probably all in the top 15. They are all very talented and will be getting interest from good teams. Tons of people were calling for Hutmacher to be benched in his 2nd year. Ty Robinson sucked ass his 2nd year. They only ever became good players in their 3rd year in the program. The three mentioned have shown out better in their first 2 years than either Ty or Nash did.
I’ll go out on a limb and say if Williams goes to Florida State, he will have significantly less snaps than he did at Nebraska, for a two and 10 team. If Johnson stays in the portal, he will be a third string running back at any P4 team. Princewell may indeed play somewhere else, but again was losing snaps to a true freshman. I will take the true freshman
Wonder if Williams would be an effective pass rusher for a Big 12 team. The nonsense surrounding EJ makes it hard to come off the portal ledge. What the hell happened to PWill? He went from challenging MJ for reps to losing them to a freshman.
Not sure about those being out three best pass rushers. Williams was second on that team in sacks (5). Butler was tied for fifth (2). And Princewill was tied for 11th (.5).
I would have liked to keep them, or at least not lose all three. But not sure all the hand wringing is warranted here.
Something happened either over the summer or in the early fall. Rhule would only say “he has to take care of his business” when asked about P’s status.
Easily the best 3 pass rushers on the team. Williams was the best among them and has elite pass rushing skills. As Kong has pointed out before, sacks don't mean everything. Guys like Williams draw all the attention so that other guys can get the sack.
Butler was a nice player for a very mediocre team. He had years to bust out and show he was a better than average talent. He didn't. EJ was our best back the last 2 years and should have played more. But he isn't elite. Williams has a lot of potential but is a one dimensional player. Princewell has a lot of potential but didn't show it this. He was missing the whole year.
Williams isn’t a “one dimensional player”, he’s a specialist
Guys like him are tough to find
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