Position assistants*. Your coordinators have to know how to coach. Satt wasn't good at either btw.Wrong... tell that to Satterfield
Position assistants*. Your coordinators have to know how to coach. Satt wasn't good at either btw.Wrong... tell that to Satterfield
I see both sides of it. This team could've easily been a 9 win team this year with competent offensive coaching. Losing contributors off a 9 win team has a bit of a different feel. I'm not panicking or losing my mind though as I definitely feel like you do - they are replacement level players for the most part. There is a long road ahead this offseason in regards to player movement, I doubt we've seen the biggest shock yet.Well Princewell was already passed over by McGahee, so he wasn't going to be all league, Lenhardt hasn't announced he is headed to the portal as of now. Emmett Johnson was never going to be an all league player in the Big Ten at Nebraska. Gbayor and Butler are exactly what I am talking about with regards to long term players that have made Nebraska average.
I think we need to draw the distinction between good player and good player for a 6-6 Nebraska team.
I questioned Knighton’s recruiting ability previously. He doesn’t seem to have much ch in the pipeline.I legit would take Simpson over Knighton. Ty, Nash and Butler were already here. Simpson can actually recruit and has good connections in FL. Again, the most important part about assistants is recruiting imo.
NOOOOO!He's a recruiter. From Florida. Works for me.
Edit: Here's how you coach an edge rusher - "Go get the Quarterback!" Done.
Winning more sure would prevent thisDon’t let that get in the way of perpetual fvcking whining. Folks can pivot any post to bitching about Rhule.
So far, all of the players that have left are replacement level players via the portal.Well Princewell was already passed over by McGahee, so he wasn't going to be all league, Lenhardt hasn't announced he is headed to the portal as of now. Emmett Johnson was never going to be an all league player in the Big Ten at Nebraska. Gbayor and Butler are exactly what I am talking about with regards to long term players that have made Nebraska average.
I think we need to draw the distinction between good player and good player for a 6-6 Nebraska team.
I would imagine that the 5 DBs is something we'll still see a lot of. I think that's what they were able to reassure Jeremiah Jones on. He fits that kind of profile.....a guy that will be able to play inside the box quite a bit.The only real constant from last year was the 5 DBs
ouchWell Princewell was already passed over by McGahee, so he wasn't going to be all league, Lenhardt hasn't announced he is headed to the portal as of now. Emmett Johnson was never going to be an all league player in the Big Ten at Nebraska. Gbayor and Butler are exactly what I am talking about with regards to long term players that have made Nebraska average.
I think we need to draw the distinction between good player and good player for a 6-6 Nebraska team.
every player on our team save 1 (DR) is replaceableSo far, all of the players that have left are replacement level players via the portal.
Depends some on when they would leave. It gets tougher to replace guys the later they take off.every player on our team save 1 (DR) is replaceable
I suppose he's replaceable, but I wouldn't want to try and replace Barney. Low odds of finding someone that performed at his leve,l with his potential.every player on our team save 1 (DR) is replaceable
Nothing against those players going into the portal but All Conference in what conference? We had the best player who was terrific game in and game out that we have had in the program the last few years and he could only make 3rd team.I see all those players I mentioned as being possible All Conference type players in the future
All-conference honors don't tend to happen until players are upperclassmen. It's a bit of a political award as well in that a good player's production might drop off in the last year and still win it just based on reputation. Ty Robinson didn't win 3rd team until he was a 5th year senior. Nash never won anything besides honorable mention one time (although he should have made the team last year imo). If Nash and Ty didn't come back this year, it would have been a major loss for our defense. This idea that players need to be on the All-Conference team before counting as a major loss when they transfer out just doesn't fit with reality, especially when they are young players.I see all those players I mentioned as being possible All Conference type players in the future
Don’t forget to be disciplined.. hold the edge and don’t let the back or QB out around you! Seen that happen way to much over last 25 years!He's a recruiter. From Florida. Works for me.
Edit: Here's how you coach an edge rusher - "Go get the Quarterback!" Done.
If I recall correctly, didn't Simpson leave because he didn't have an actual coaching position? He was a consultant or quality control? In effect, he was working as one of our best recruiters on a partial salary (by comparison). Yes, bring that guy back.I don’t know about his coaching prowess but he’s the guy that got Barney, Mcgahee, Shavers, out of Florida for us, I think… he’s at least worth a look.
This is nebraska, winning the offseason and podium is more important than the actual games.Winning more sure would prevent this
But we aren’t talking about Hutmacher or Robinson. We are talking about players entering the portal that were either being passed up by younger players or just average dudes that are replaceable. That replacement may come from the portal or it may come from within.All-conference honors don't tend to happen until players are upperclassmen. It's a bit of a political award as well in that a good player's production might drop off in the last year and still win it just based on reputation. Ty Robinson didn't win 3rd team until he was a 5th year senior. Nash never won anything besides honorable mention one time (although he should have made the team last year imo). If Nash and Ty didn't come back this year, it would have been a major loss for our defense. This idea that players need to be on the All-Conference team before counting as a major loss when they transfer out just doesn't fit with reality, especially when they are young players.
Everyone is technically replaceable but there are at least 50-60 guys on the roster that I really wouldn't want to leave. So far, Emmitt Johnson is the only guy who really hurts. But yes, we could find someone who plays as well as he does. Maybe he's already on the roster.every player on our team save 1 (DR) is replaceable
Damn right. And that new DC better be a splash hire! Don't care about the fit. We need to be wowed!This is nebraska, winning the offseason and podium is more important than the actual games.
Mills is that guy which is why it’s so important to keep Barney. Pretty dynamic duo setting up.I suppose he's replaceable, but I wouldn't want to try and replace Barney. Low odds of finding someone that performed at his leve,l with his potential.
I'm not talking about Gbayor or Butler. I'm talking about Williams, Princewill, and Emmett. These are players that have only been here 2 years. Neither Ty Robinson nor Nash Hutmacher accomplished shit by year 2. They didn't start coming on until they were upperclassmen. It's not possible to tell what their ceiling actually is at this point, but the fact that the players in question got on the field at a young age and were making plays indicates that they are indeed very talented players.But we aren’t talking about Hutmacher or Robinson. We are talking about players entering the portal that were either being passed up by younger players or just average dudes that are replaceable. That replacement may come from the portal or it may come from within.
The underlying issue is the need to get to 105 though. If you have a player on the roster that can match the production that you lose in Butler or Gbyaor and that replacement is younger, you make a tough business decision to say thanks for the 4 years. Good luck at your next stop.
The Parker kid is the #6 RB per Rivals. He could be a factor next year.Everyone is technically replaceable but there are at least 50-60 guys on the roster that I really wouldn't want to leave. So far, Emmitt Johnson is the only guy who really hurts. But yes, we could find someone who plays as well as he does. Maybe he's already on the roster.
Most of the guys who have left so far are easily in that top 50-60 players. Losing our 3 best pass rushers hurts at least as much as Emmett.Everyone is technically replaceable but there are at least 50-60 guys on the roster that I really wouldn't want to leave. So far, Emmitt Johnson is the only guy who really hurts. But yes, we could find someone who plays as well as he does. Maybe he's already on the roster.
Our top 3 pass rushers all had deficiencies in their skill set and were losing snaps to a freshman. Hopefully we can find some depth there in the portal.Most of the guys who have left so far are easily in that top 50-60 players. Losing our 3 best pass rushers hurts at least as much as Emmett.
This.The only real constant from last year was the 5 DBs
I think the question with him is whether he can run inside the tackles. He is very good at running outside though.The Parker kid is the #6 RB per Rivals. He could be a factor next year.
And if we lost Hutmacher and Robinson after 2 years and/ or if both were losing playing time to younger players I would definitely say the same thing. Princewell had off the field issues didn’t play near the snaps as he did as a freshman and by the end of the year McGahee was taking snaps away. Williams is/was a light DL that can’t seal the edge and is weak against the run. Emmett Johnson was/is a lightly recruited RB that showed well against in 3 games with a new OC. Sounds like he has issues with the former OC. Now instead of sticking around and battling for continued playing time he took his ball and went home. Bye!!!!I'm not talking about Gbayor or Butler. I'm talking about Williams, Princewill, and Emmett. These are players that have only been here 2 years. Neither Ty Robinson nor Nash Hutmacher accomplished shit by year 2. They didn't start coming on until they were upperclassmen. It's not possible to tell what their ceiling actually is at this point, but the fact that the players in question got on the field at a young age and were making plays indicates that they are indeed very talented players.
If we had lost Ty or Nash after 2 years, people would be saying the same thing. No big deal, they hadn't accomplished anything. Well, that's because they hadn't had time to accomplish anything. But as they had come on starting year 3, they improved into the all-conference type players (and yes, Nash should have won it last year) we all say we want on the roster.
Now this is just getting stupid. Those 3 are easily top 50, probably all in the top 15. They are all very talented and will be getting interest from good teams. Tons of people were calling for Hutmacher to be benched in his 2nd year. Ty Robinson sucked ass his 2nd year. They only ever became good players in their 3rd year in the program. The three mentioned have shown out better in their first 2 years than either Ty or Nash did.And if we lost Hutmacher and Robinson after 2 years and/ or if both were losing playing time to younger players I would definitely say the same thing. Princewell had off the field issues didn’t play near the snaps as he did as a freshman and by the end of the year McGahee was taking snaps away. Williams is/was a light DL that can’t seal the edge and is weak against the run. Emmett Johnson was/is a lightly recruited RB that showed well against in 3 games with a new OC. Sounds like he has issues with the former OC. Now instead of sticking around and battling for continued playing time he took his ball and went home. Bye!!!!
Again I say if those are 3 of the best 50 players on the team, then we have bigger talent issues than believed and it needs to be addressed by bringing in better talent, not by keeping 3rd string talent because they might get better in 2 more years.
I’ll go out on a limb and say if Williams goes to Florida State, he will have significantly less snaps than he did at Nebraska, for a two and 10 team. If Johnson stays in the portal, he will be a third string running back at any P4 team. Princewell may indeed play somewhere else, but again was losing snaps to a true freshman. I will take the true freshmanNow this is just getting stupid. Those 3 are easily top 50, probably all in the top 15. They are all very talented and will be getting interest from good teams. Tons of people were calling for Hutmacher to be benched in his 2nd year. Ty Robinson sucked ass his 2nd year. They only ever became good players in their 3rd year in the program. The three mentioned have shown out better in their first 2 years than either Ty or Nash did.
Wonder if Williams would be an effective pass rusher for a Big 12 team. The nonsense surrounding EJ makes it hard to come off the portal ledge. What the hell happened to PWill? He went from challenging MJ for reps to losing them to a freshman.I’ll go out on a limb and say if Williams goes to Florida State, he will have significantly less snaps than he did at Nebraska, for a two and 10 team. If Johnson stays in the portal, he will be a third string running back at any P4 team. Princewell may indeed play somewhere else, but again was losing snaps to a true freshman. I will take the true freshman
Most of the guys who have left so far are easily in that top 50-60 players. Losing our 3 best pass rushers hurts at least as much as Emmett.
Something happened either over the summer or in the early fall. Rhule would only say “he has to take care of his business” when asked about P’s status.Wonder if Williams would be an effective pass rusher for a Big 12 team. The nonsense surrounding EJ makes it hard to come off the portal ledge. What the hell happened to PWill? He went from challenging MJ for reps to losing them to a freshman.
Easily the best 3 pass rushers on the team. Williams was the best among them and has elite pass rushing skills. As Kong has pointed out before, sacks don't mean everything. Guys like Williams draw all the attention so that other guys can get the sack.Not sure about those being out three best pass rushers. Williams was second on that team in sacks (5). Butler was tied for fifth (2). And Princewill was tied for 11th (.5).
I would have liked to keep them, or at least not lose all three. But not sure all the hand wringing is warranted here.
Butler was a nice player for a very mediocre team. He had years to bust out and show he was a better than average talent. He didn't. EJ was our best back the last 2 years and should have played more. But he isn't elite. Williams has a lot of potential but is a one dimensional player. Princewell has a lot of potential but didn't show it this. He was missing the whole year.Not sure about those being out three best pass rushers. Williams was second on that team in sacks (5). Butler was tied for fifth (2). And Princewill was tied for 11th (.5).
I would have liked to keep them, or at least not lose all three. But not sure all the hand wringing is warranted here.
Williams isn’t a “one dimensional player”, he’s a specialistButler was a nice player for a very mediocre team. He had years to bust out and show he was a better than average talent. He didn't. EJ was our best back the last 2 years and should have played more. But he isn't elite. Williams has a lot of potential but is a one dimensional player. Princewell has a lot of potential but didn't show it this. He was missing the whole year.
no I don’t recall seeing anybody help their left tackle on Williams. He had an offsides often snd often lost contain.Easily the best 3 pass rushers on the team. Williams was the best among them and has elite pass rushing skills. As Kong has pointed out before, sacks don't mean everything. Guys like Williams draw all the attention so that other guys can get the sack.