Riley looked mad
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I don't understand this "hoping it" at all. You honestly really want to go through another coaching change? Riley retiring won't make it any easier for the players who would have to get used to a new coach, new schemes, etc., and most of this current recruiting class goes elsewhere and we start at the beginning recruiting-wise. The only thing him retiring does is make it less ugly for him. The result for the program would be no different at all whether he gets fired or retires.
Yes it would be different.
Here's how I feel about it: I don't think Riley will ever win any kind of title here or have a 11-2 type of season. I just don't see it. Heck, even our own Riley fans say things like " he wasn't brought here to win!" Etc.
I find it more likely that he will suffer a losing season than win the big. This is based on prior history but more so on the teams performance as a whole over three years.
While I say this prediction, I also believe he deserves the rest of the year to prove me wrong, and another year if he wins 8-9, but would love it if he had that kind of season then went into the football offices with warm fuzzies everywhere.
If he's fired it could look bad for us, I dunno. But if he retires, it won't. He's coached a long time. If he goes out on a winning season it will feel good to him and NU. He's changed the culture. Like I said, be great if he was offered a cushy job around the program....would help with recruits etc and potential coaching hires. Don't know if he'd take it but it's worth a shot for a few years. This scenario is what everyone wants and expects eventually, right? I'd like it sooner than later is all.
It sure beats the alternative of a 4-5 win season and Riley is canned. You might say another alternative is winning a title in the next few years, but I don't see it and don't know how anyone could.
Eitther way you can't say he doesn't look noticably tired and older this year....we used to always say how great he looked for 64.....haven't heard that once this year. It's all wearing on him, and it has been since the start of the year. I agree he works long hours...maybe he'd like to work less hours.
Which pro-Riley poster has said that? I've seen posters who aren't high on Riley make those comments, but not Riley fans.
Very possible I missed it though.
I've seen plenty.
"He came in to fix a toxic environment and get recruiting in order and set it up nicely for the next coach to come in, who will probably win and have Riley to thank, what did you expect!?" etc etc. it has been said a lot by Riley apologists.
I don't recall really seeing people saying that, but if somebody has, it certainly wasn't me, and anybody who says that is an idiot.
These things weren’t said from the start. Those statements occurred after seeing what’s been going on for 2+ years. It’s where goal posts truly have been moved.
So you don't believe a good coach who wins can have an positive impact on the Husker football team?
I've seen many posts like this and it's generally come from the pro-Riley camp.
And like I said, it’s revisionist... it didn’t start this way. The pro Riley camp thought he would revolutionize recruiting and develop players and we would be winning by now.
Instead, seeing where things are at now, people are saying he was never expected to win, but to change the culture, which is silly.
At worst I seem to remember posters early on saying if (and I emphasize IF) he doesn’t win the pieces will be in place for the next coach. But I don’t think anyone said he wasn’t expected to win, just to change the culture.
That’s what I remember at least.
It depends on what you mean by win. I'm sure most people expected him to win at least 9 or 10 games like Bo, but he wasn't realistically expected to win championships. The next guy was supposed to do that. Now with the prospect of losing seasons, "winning" will mean not having a losing season.
I don’t think any Riley apologist thought he would be worse than Bo, record wise. Championships? Maybe, but not completely expected. Hoped for? Yes. But 7-5? I don’t think any Riley apologist was down with that when we hired him.
I think you're confusing "Riley apologists" with "anybody but Bo" people. Most of the people you identify with the former are really the latter.
Does it matter? MR probably is not going to be around here long enough to lead us to the promised land. If he ends up being a bridge to a better future, so be it.
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My response is always, couldn't we find soembody who can do all those things and win? Always met with crickets.
You're missing my point. I'm saying there really aren't many "Riley apologists", because most "Riley apologists" were just happy to have anyone but Bo. It's not that they were so pro-Riley as anti-Bo.
wow. Ok I'll correct this for you. He left a job he was close to being fired for because of several losing seasons and came to a place that had a full compliment of scholarships, some of the best facilities and a team loaded enough to consistently win 9+ games a year with a bad coach. In year 1, 2 and 3 he is losing to teams that the fan base are struggling to comprehend. He also got a five year contract worth about 14 million. In spite of that he is being given a chance to win7 or 8 games to keep coaching knowing that if he doesn't we still pay him about 12 million. And you don't blame him for being mad????????
Give him 3 less years than Blo and then let's talk about whether or not he can win enough.
